Panasonic Viera TV USB HDD PVR: Supported drives & PC access to recordings?
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I came across this and have been having similar problems. I've just joined this site to throw in my two pennys' worth, but I'll probably have to start my own thread for all my problems! Anyway, with regards to reusing a USB HDD after the TV has had its way with it this is what I did. I put all my videos on my HDD and plugged it into the TV. The TV would not let me use the HDD without formatting it. So I formatted it and then tried to put the videos back on. No joy as my PC did not recognise it. As has been covered in this thread the HDD can only be used for recording nd playback off the telly. Anyhow, I wanted to use the HDD with my laptop, but the laptop would not format it for use with windows. With a bit of trial and error I did fix it. This is how I resurrected it: Right click on My Computer Click on Manage Go to storage and disk management I could see the USB drive but it had no drive letter and when I right clicked on it all the options (format, change drive letter and path, open, etc) were greyed out. The only available option was delete... so I clicked on it. This deleted the partition and the HDD disappeared from the list of drive letters, but was still available in the lower half of the Management interface where I could right click on it and create a new partition. I did this and windows reformatted it for me. It all works fine in windows again now. I should caveat this advice with the information that I am not overly tech savvy, and solved this by trial and error but it seems to work. I hope it is ok to post a link to my thread with my problems as it is related to this one but I did not want to hijack. Canon AVCHD (.mts) files on Panasonic TV Last edited by Furious D; 22-01-2011 at 12:42 PM. |
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You can schedule a recording to USB drive and then put the TV into standby. The recording will be done without you having to watch the TV at the same time. | |
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It is a pity Panasonic make it so difficult to do anything useful with this disc. You can't read it on a PC or Apple or any other Panni TV. I suppose they don't want to bypass their own PVR market. To the person trying the Vierra Link to watch films on their films on a file server. My advice is forget Vierra View as Panasonic have never delivered on their promise for this. Buy a Sony BluRay player, connect it to your network and you have access to your music, photos, films on your file server as well as iPlayer, I Love Film, Qriocity, Loads of other Internet stations. Works a treat. | |
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The same strange Panasonic rules apply to their PVR where you cannot preserve the wide-screen bit if you set high speed copy. There is no difference in the recorded file size so it seems to be an arbitrary "rule" created by Panasonic. | |
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Regarding the freebsd issue, I've been playing with a harddisk and the data recorded. Although I managed to access the files I only managed to mount the system in Read-only mode (I used ubuntu btw) I've been playing with several FreeBSD virtual machines (Vmware) to try to mount the disk in read-write mode. No success. I tried versions 8.1, 7.3, 6.4 and 6.0. On the other hand I have found that tts stands for "timestamped transport stream", as defined in "DLNA Interoperability Guidelines v1.0" (search the pdf with google). I suppose too that the .aid and .vid files are time guides for audio (.aid) and video (.vod) since looking at them with an hex editor reveals a continuos time sequence... The mime-type is explained here: http://www.iana.org/assignments/medi....dlna.mpeg-tts and says that tts is basically an MPEG-2 stream with 4 overhead packets for networking use... however I cannot see any relationship between the USB HDD recorded data and the network :P Regards. |
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hi good thread of information so thanks to all. I have just purchased my panasonic tx-p46vt20b and panasonic blu ray BTT350 hoping to have the full suite of internet connectivity and great HD TV. However I want to do the following: use iplayer (I dont want to use freesat as no dish and great signal on freeview and broadband), use native internet like google, record on the USB HDD and watch another channel (without buying external tuners or boxes), stream movies from my IMAC (running MACOSX) presumably I need to run DLNS?), have access to lovefilm etc on my new tv (vieracast seems to be very limited). Reading between the lines on this forum it seems you cannot do any of these things without more devices and I thought I bought this panasonic TV and BR to give all this functionality. If my assumption is right ? Is there an alternative to panasonic - should I be buying Sony instead ? Any views great fully received
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Welcome to AV. I think buying any other TV with Ad-Hoc recording will be the same as the Pannies. It is a shame you cannot use the Sat tuner independent of the Freeview tuner and I assume there is a technical reason for their train of thought on this. I very rarely use my TV for recording but then I do have two PVR’s, Freesat HD and Freeview HD and IMO is the best way to go for recording one or even two channels while viewing live. Although of course you don’t need to buy into both systems. TV internet I find a bit off a pain to be honest and don’t normally use this although I do have a bridge connecting my 4 pieces of equipment I have under the TV.Chris | |
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Hi. I've a 500 Gb 2,5" HD plugged to my 42G20 and disk is having problems. I did a surface test and seems the disk to have broken sectors . I could mount it in Ubuntu (thanks this thread help) and download all my recordings to my desktop PC but now I'm not able to upload to my new disk (already formated/initialized in the TV) as I can't mount it in R/W mode; just in read only mode. Can anybody help me to mount new disk in R/W in order to upload old recordings? Best regards. |
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Based on past posts, I have download and installed on a PC FreeBSD 8.1, I can see the USB connection message come up and it identifies the disk as /dev/da0 ... and I can see it has data on the 1st partition. From what I have read on the net, I have tried all variations of the mount command (tho a total amateur using anything looking like linux), such as mount -t ufs -o ro /dev/da0 /mnt/colin mount -t ufs -o ro /dev/da0s1 /mnt/colin mount -t ufs2 -o ro /dev/da0s1 /mnt/colin mount -t extfs2 -o ro /dev/da0s1 /mnt/colin I believe the s1 on the end of the /dev/da0 is the "slice number" and I can see a da0s1 in the /dev directory. If I remember reightly, when I bought the TV I think I had tried thiis kind of mount command with Ubuntu as well.... al without any success.... Can you advise what version you are running... and the mount command used and anything else that may be needed please? Thank you & regards Colin | |
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I have just purchased a Verbatim 320GB Store & Go USB Hard Drive for my 32G20 and after a bit of trial and error it works! However, I noticed that despite the manual saying I could use either the side USB or rear USB, it only actually worked on the rear USB - it fact on the rear of the TV, the rear USB socket had HDD marked against it! Hopefully, if I get the Netgear dongle, the dongle will work in the side USB! I agree the recording is limited but I am still learning and I think I can put up with it. I do have 2 questions though 1. is it right that you have to pick either instant recording or rewind live TV - still don't fully understand rewind live tv though 2. My HDD is usb powered only, so if I put the TV into standby, as I see it, the TV will still record. If I power off the TV, presumably no recordings will take place? |
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Here is how to access the UFS disk: 1. Find the location of the disk partition when it is attached to the computer. You can easily get this information from System - Administration - Disk Utility My disk partition was attached on /dev/sdd1 2. In terminal type the following: sudo mkdir /mnt/ufsdisk sudo mount -t ufs -r -o ufstype=ufs2 /dev/sdd1 /mnt/ufsdisk Replace /dev/sdd1 with wherever your disk is attached. 3. You will find the ufsdisk folder located at /mnt/ufsdisk in your filesystem. Open that and all the recorder files are there. I hope that this helps. | |
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According to Wikipedia, the MPEG-2 TS should have a Sync byte of 0x47 at the beginning of each packet. If the coding is a simple byte based conversion, discard the 4 byte time stamp at the beginning of the 0_00.tts file, and find what transform makes the next byte into 0x47. If correct, this should be repeated every 192 bytes. Not the answer, but a starting point anyway. If someone can post a link to a sample file, I would be interested to have a look. | |
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BLAIR - for the record, I have now had to wipe my disk (SAMSUNG_S2) clean now, due to 1) the TV registering a phantom 2nd disk, which did not link back to my connected Samsung disk, thereby making it useless until I deleted the entries in the menu and re-registered it _ I lost about 150gb of recording in doing so. 2) for some reson the TV was locking up when changing channels... and when I disconnect the USB disk, all worked fine - and strangely (at this same time), the record STOP button refused to stop the recoding activity after recording for more than a couple of minutes - the only way I could get the recording to stop, was to power the tv off at the wall socket, which then led to a recording suddenly being zapped to 5 minutes length. SO, cracking the recording and getting a hard copy on your pc (or wherever), is very much worth looking into. Ikki - Also thanks for the Ubuntu solutiom for getting at the files - I'm a total Linux/Ubuntu novice, but I/.T literate, so will try and persevere a final solution. bbuchy - thanks for your comments on the disk you use, your USB of choice made me sit up and think that was a damm good point, but I only have the 2 side USB slots on my P42G20B, so I don't have any option but to use them - I did eventually find the supported drives for my model, which constitutes all of one make/model, which is Maker Model Number JustStore Desktop HD-EU2-UK Series Thanks & Regards for your updates... | |
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Hi, Blair: I had the same idea you had, since I saw the .tts files have a size which is a multiple on 192 bytes. I even made a short C program to remove these 4 bytes in each 192-byte block/packet..... but no luck. The result is not a clear MPEG-2 scream. I recorded a few seconds with a DVB-stick in my PC and all packets (188-byte MPE-2 packets) start with the 0x47 mark. The problem now with the files is - I suppose - to guess how to obtain an MPEG-2 stream from the set of three files (.aid, .vid, .tts) As to link a file so you can check it, I don't know how could I do it. |
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I love that there is someone working on this. I managed to get the files off my hard drive using Ubuntu, but have had problems reading the files under Windows and Ubuntu. Has there been any progress? Or has anyone found any software that encode this or transcode to MPEG (evaluation versions or free)? If needed I'm happy to upload a 100mb file or so onto my website if anyone wants a sample. Thanks very much Andy | |
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| New Member | Panasonic TX-42D25L Rather than buying a USB HDD that might end up as an expensive door stopper, I followed Panasonic's recommendation & opted for the suggested Buffalo 2TB HDD. Works a dream, the unit will record all DVB-T & DVB-S programming including Ch 4hd. Besides "one touch recording" or timed entries it also allows "time shift" or pause live TV in glorious high definition. There are issues though:
Any suggestions on how this can be overcome would be very welcome. Last edited by Gooner; 04-04-2011 at 12:31 AM. Reason: grammar! |
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I is a pity, however, that Panasonic have been so unnecessarily restrictive. With the Freesat and Freeview HD tuners in my TX-P42G20B, they could have also allowed us to record and watch different programs. Maybe the next generation ... Other than the above, I am pleased with my TV. Something I have been meaning to experiment with is recording via the HDMI output. Many laptops/PC have this interface so may be a possibility to record HD media for future use. Has anyone tried this? Answered my own question - no this won't work as the HDMI spec prevents copying. Would have to use the Scart output which probably means no HD. Slightly off topic, many BBC programs can be downloaded using "get_iplayer" including HD media. The advantage being you can play them back after the normal 30 days have elapsed. In fact anything playable in the BBC's iPlayer can be downloaded this way though how long this useful option will last I just don't know. Simon TX-P42G20B Last edited by skmorgan; 03-04-2011 at 3:21 PM. | |
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I have a 400gb Freecom Hard Drive, which I Partitioned into two, both of equal size. The idea was to use one Partition with my Panasonic G20 TV for recording, freezing Life TV, and the other Partition for PC usage and for viewing JPGs, MP3s, Video Files. When I conect the drive (partitioned) to the TV, and register it, it formats it back into a single partition (which cannot be use on a PC). Is there a way to retain the second partition for PC usage ? |
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However I am not too sure why you would want to do this. External 2.5 in HD and enclosures are extremely cheap, you can get a 250Gb external HD for about £30 see Ebay or Ebuyer. Bigger drives are not much more expensive. Will save you having to unplug the TV hdd assuming the formatting works. Simon | |
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Well, mine is even more strange.... P42G20B Had it just over four months, lots of niggling problems (intermittent type things, nothing I can actually point at the Plasma itself or the cables or the Bluray, so inconclusive)... Anyway, Western Digital 2TB USB HDD - formats fine under Panasonic and registers fine. Using the bottom of the remote (slide switch set to TV) it records anything that is currently running perfectly, SD, HD, Freeview, FreeSat, whatever. Orange LED flashes whilst recording and once recorded it all comes up on "Media player" and plays perfectly. But use the top right "direct TV rec" button and I get the error message "starting up" then "invalid operation". Nothing then, no change of LED from green. (setup menu is set corectly for "live TV" or whatever they call it). Now use the programme guide and set to record for a future programme, all seems well, LED changes to orange at the appropriate time, if I try to watch anything else it prevents me as tuner is in use, but when it's finished recording, Media player says the HDD is empty..... So why was the orange LED flashing all that time ??? I don't think there is anything wrong with the USB/HDD but there seems to be something very wrong with Panasonic's firmware (or possibly hardware in my case). 4 months old and it was bought from Amazon.... the ultimate nightmare for getting it replaced.... Thoughts ??? Last edited by Rod S; 27-04-2011 at 7:33 PM. |
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![]() There are a fair few posts in here about some HDDs working and some not, but not the way my one works in one mode but not in the other..... I'll wait a day and see, and if there are no helpful responses I'll start a new thread. | |
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GOT THE DRIVE TODAY MY TV DOES NOT HAVE USB SLOT SO PLAYED THROUGH MY PANA DMP-BD45 BLU-RAY PLAYER. GOT MESSAGE SAYING NOT COMPATIBLE.IS THERE ANYTHING THAT CAN BE DONE OR ARE THERE OTHER COMPATIBLE DRIVES. I HAVE A 8GB STICK WHICH PLAYS THROUGH MY BLU-RAY USB. |
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don't post in capitals it is classed as shouting and bad nettiquette Curly |
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i did not mean to shout. got drive today. my tv tx-p42s20b does not have a usb port so played through my pana dmp-bd45 b-ray player. my tv is . got message saying not compatible. then pressed function menu on b-ray remote got message saying unformatted, how do you format it. on this forum i have heard if you format drive it may not work with pc. is there another portable drive that is compatible and will play through my blu-ray palyer? |
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