[yeniuye]

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Calibrator[/QUOTE]

Hi,
I want to buy a new LED TV. I have 2 choise: LG 42 LH9000 or LG 42SL9500 . which one should i prefer?
thans for your comments.

[Calibrator]

Originally Posted by yeniuye

I want to buy a new LED TV. I have 2 choise: LG 42 LH9000 or LG 42SL9500 . which one should i prefer?
thans for your comments.

Personally, I'd have a look at the local dimming set (LH 9000).

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Calibrator

[Bibby_83]

I'm thinking of upgrading my current Sony LCD set because the backlight bleed REALLY ANNOYS ME, so the $64,000 question is: 'Do Edge/backlit LED sets suffer from backlight bleed?'.

Backlight bleed is usually caused by a higher luminance output from the panel and it is particularly visible with some scenes. Having said that, some models do seem to suffer more than others - I can't say I've noticed it much on my set. I suppose most LCD panels will have some bleed to the edges and this can make the centre of the screen look a little darker, but you hardly see much of an effect in normal viewing.

I don't know if the LED-lit are better or worse in this respect but I don't think it has much to do with the Black level, in fact it tends to effect colours more (particularly the lighter shades). You aren't likely to get a huge difference in black levels nowadays unless you pick one of the local dimming models ie. Sony, Philips or one of the new LG/Toshibas if you're on a lower budget.

[Unique Geeza]

really great post this 1 in my veiw, i bought a TH-37PX60B a few years back & have loved it from day 1 .. lately a few of my friends have gone out & bought new LCDs & LED tvs saying how good they are to watch tv on etc, i was jelous i must admit so over the last week i have been looking just to see whats out there on sale these days, i love my gagdets & used to be on this web site alot, even if it was just to read other posts etc, but i thought i would log in again & grab some info.. im now so glad i did as i didnt relise that an LED tv was only the back light.. yea i should of done some homework on this but i thought the screen was actually now in some way all light emiting diodes lighting up etc to give us an all new vision experience lol.. which now i know isnt.. new tech is new tech but to charge the earth for the same PQ but just a different brightness etc is a bit naughty.. even my local electronics store were saying how great the new PQ is etc... im only writing this because like i said i didnt know the screen was pretty much the same in PQ but the back light was different.. this has really made my mind up in my opinion to stick with plasma & go for the new G20 most prob, with 600 hertz & full hd this should be a good upgrade from what i have got at the moment & is more of a newer technology from what i have got then what i woud get from an LED tv.... thanks again for all your posts as it was really helpfull ..

[applepower]

Very good comments here.

I've found on a personal basic that the LED backlit TV give a much more better picture compared to the LCD.

In which case the extra cost would be worth the price?

[Giblets2]

Oh good grief, 4 pages and still some people don't get it!

[applepower]

Originally Posted by Giblets2

Oh good grief, 4 pages and still some people don't get it!

Oh I get what you lot are saying.

But both use two different technologies hence the difference in PQ

[LEGENDGH]

Originally Posted by yeniuye

bye
Calibrator

Hi,
I want to buy a new LED TV. I have 2 choise: LG 42 LH9000 or LG 42SL9500 . which one should i prefer?
thans for your comments.[/QUOTE]

Hello Yeniuye.
I have just bought the LG 42" SL9500 to replace my Sony 32" V4000 (2-3 year old model.)
The picture on the LG is a lot "fuzzier" than my old Sony AND the sound is terrible in comparison.
I am seriously thinking of taking it back to either exchange or get the sound checked out?

[kedar301]

this is absolutely brilliant thread, saved me fortune, i was about to buy either LG LX9900 or Samsung 9000 series, but was also looking at Mitsubishi Laservue, one of th retailer from USA willing to send me the set, the problem is i rea da lot about this laservue tv but cant see the demo anywhere in Europe. and i dont know if i get crap tv then???!!! but this looks like a promising technology not gimmick like so called LED TV.

Again one of my friend offered me a brand new Panasonic TXP42G10B for only £400. how good is this one.

Please help me buy one should get Laservue from USA or any other TV for maximum of £2000. (should have 3D) and space is no concern for me. my home living room is low light area.

[Curly99]

Originally Posted by kedar301

this is absolutely brilliant thread, saved me fortune, i was about to buy either LG LX9900 or Samsung 9000 series, but was also looking at Mitsubishi Laservue, one of th retailer from USA willing to send me the set, the problem is i rea da lot about this laservue tv but cant see the demo anywhere in Europe. and i dont know if i get crap tv then???!!! but this looks like a promising technology not gimmick like so called LED TV.

Again one of my friend offered me a brand new Panasonic TXP42G10B for only £400. how good is this one.

Please help me buy one should get Laservue from USA or any other TV for maximum of £2000. (should have 3D) and space is no concern for me. my home living room is low light area.

For specific buying advice you should really post in the "Which TV should I buy?" forum you post will get read by more people in there who could offer you advice.

Curly

[kedar301]

Originally Posted by Curly99

For specific buying advice you should really post in the "Which TV should I buy?" forum you post will get read by more people in there who could offer you advice.

Curly

i tried in Which TV no response so far lol. but thanks

[tdw]

I was considering a Samsung LED TV from Makro, £399+vat 32". I paid £369+vat for a Samsung 32" LCD from there in January which may be going back.

[stu123]

Just bought the samsung ue40c650 led tv can anyone tell me the best settings for this tv? thanks

[Dumachi]

Originally Posted by applepower

Oh I get what you lot are saying.

But both use two different technologies hence the difference in PQ

nope its just the fact you can gurantee the LED backlight ones are the top models with all the latest greatest picture processors. the best CCFL screens i think are better than led backlighting unless its full Led and not edgelite

[jackietaylor]

Can some one please help me. I have just plugged a Hitachi LCD TV L42VC04U into my laptop (Dell XPS - MS Vista) using HMDI Cable and the screen goes blue and reboots.
I presume it is a driver issue, but have no idea how to update the drivers. Please help....

[Gavtech]

Originally Posted by jackietaylor

Can some one please help me. I have just plugged a Hitachi LCD TV L42VC04U into my laptop (Dell XPS - MS Vista) using HMDI Cable and the screen goes blue and reboots.
I presume it is a driver issue, but have no idea how to update the drivers. Please help....

Jackietaylor. Please note that posting the same issue in more than one thread [ known as cross-posting, ] is against the forum rules. Thanks.

Your other posts have been deleted.

[spliffed]

Well for all those who seem to think no one really cares what they are buying, if that were the case then this forum and the hundreds of others asking what tv to buy and pros and cons wouldnt exist. Personally if I went into a pub and asked for a pint of Guiness and was given a glass of water I would not be too impressed. I discovered the whole LED LCD con and its not acceptable. All they are doing is putting a slice of lemon on the side of the glass and charging a small fortune for the privalege. If you are happy buying because it looks pretty good luck to you. Personally I want to know what I'm buying for my hard earned.. Was looking at LCD after my LG plasma lasted a little over 6 months and expired.. No confidence in LG or Dixons group after the aggro I had getting my dosh back from them. I'm looking to replace and always thought I knew a bit about tv but with the sheer numbers of manufacturers and models available its a bit of a quagmire so any help is more than welcome.. Forgetting power consumption (greenies go hide) which is better .. Plasma, or LCD (or LED LCD) in the 50 to 55 inch bracket?
ps I also suspect a lot getting heated up over the LED LCD thing are people who bought them not realising and getting the hump because they were conned.

[AML]

I have a quick question:

How can we tell which displays use Edge LED and which use RGB LED?

I care mostly about picture quality and dont really care about power consumption. (anything new I buy will use less power than my previous model so it doesnt really matter)

My deciding factors are always going to be picture quality over anything else.

From what ive read here it seems that RGB LED sets are probably the best to get for now since they reproduce the best blacks and such.

Thanks.

[xtr3m3]

Originally Posted by AML

I have a quick question:

How can we tell which displays use Edge LED and which use RGB LED?

I care mostly about picture quality and dont really care about power consumption. (anything new I buy will use less power than my previous model so it doesnt really matter)

My deciding factors are always going to be picture quality over anything else.

From what ive read here it seems that RGB LED sets are probably the best to get for now since they reproduce the best blacks and such.

Thanks.

To see if the backlighting is Edge LED or Direct LED is easier.
RGB LED has been proved to be inaccurate. Sometimes the colour tones will go wrong. That's why some companies like the inventor of LED backlighting (Philips) decided not to use RGB LEDs. That company also invented 100 Hz for crt tv's and the worlds most powerfull white LED lights. They can't be wrong.

Better blacks with RGB LEDs, I don't think so. Better blacks you get with local dimming LEDs.

To detect if the screen has Edge LED or Direct LED:
Scenario where picture moves horizontally and the image has darker and lighter areas. Looking from around 75 degrees you will see flashlight kind of light leaks. Going from the top and bottom edges to to center. If not then just adjust the backlight.

To detect RGB LED backlight:
You need to compare the colour tones and compare them to detect RGB. There is other ways also but this is the simples that I can imagine. I would suggest to use a test video to detect.

[Woolyhead]

How good is a Panasonic TX-L37D25B TV ? Do most of the above comments apply to it well or is it one of the "new type" of true LED screens?

[Joe Fernand]

Its an LED-backlit LCD - VIERA Flat Screen TV - LCD & LED TV - TX-L37D25B - Overview - UK & Ireland

Joe

[Woolyhead]

Thanks for the info, Joe. Would you believe that I went and bought one of these 37 inch Panasonics based on the idea that they were better than an LCD screen. The salesman really took advantage of me by not making it sufficiently clear that it's an LCD screen. Not only that but when I tried to increase the gamma setting as per the handbook, the necessary windows didn't appear on screen. I paid a lot of money for this and all I've got so far is a picture with too much contrast ie it goes towards black too fast instead of reproducing the greys properly. I turned contrast to minimum and brightness up to maximum and it is a just about watchable result. But for the money it isn't good value. I'm getting on to the shop to sort the whole thing out.

[PhilipL]

Hi

Originally Posted by Woolyhead

Thanks for the info, Joe. Would you believe that I went and bought one of these 37 inch Panasonics based on the idea that they were better than an LCD screen. The salesman really took advantage of me by not making it sufficiently clear that it's an LCD screen. Not only that but when I tried to increase the gamma setting as per the handbook, the necessary windows didn't appear on screen. I paid a lot of money for this and all I've got so far is a picture with too much contrast ie it goes towards black too fast instead of reproducing the greys properly. I turned contrast to minimum and brightness up to maximum and it is a just about watchable result. But for the money it isn't good value. I'm getting on to the shop to sort the whole thing out.

Have you tried the "True Cinema" mode, that is the only mode on Panasonics that provides truer pictures, the other modes tend to mess around with the picture too much.

Indeed "LED TVs" are really being mis-sold. I've just bought a new Panasonic and purposely avoided LED in favour of the tried and test cold cathode backlight. Cheaper, and the extra thickness needed often means the TV has larger speakers and better sound than the thin LED edge lit displays.

If you can swap to the Panasonic TX-L37S20B with Freeview HD tuner, then when you get it switch to "True Cinema" mode and enable CATS so the backlight is adjusted automatically depending on the rooms brightness and this gives a wonderful natural picture.

Regards

Phil

[talosian]

this is a truly great thread, though opinion varies one thing for sure is LED is LCD with maybe improved backlighting. My old ubiquitious 32" CRT Sony double whopper with cheese maybe be going in the garage next year and thanks to this topic my eyes are now more open (with LED backlighting like the evil bloke in thunderbirds) ..

[Mardler]

In respnse to those who said consumers don't understand such matters - you are so right.

Perhaps more surprising is that some intelligent people actually believe they're buying LED displays (not LCD displays). A friend who owns a very successful I.T. business and who is otherwise tech savvy is convinced his new B&O Series 10 42" TV is not LCD but LED. I'm going to have to break it to him gently that his £10k purchase isn't quite what he thinks it is.

The sales have some extraordinary offers at the moment so it may be a good time to buy a CCFL panel TV if you can find one, or a Plasma (e.g. LG 50" 990 series, £800 with 5 yr warranty!).

[Strawbs]

I've recently bought a Samsung LED edge-lit LCD and paid a £100 premium knowing well what I was buying - but then I don't consider myself a run-of-the-mill consumer (although I'm no guru either). I see richer colours, blacker blacks, whiter whites, a thinner format, eco-savings and for those that think I've missed a trick - this particular set has a mini-sub woofer built in so I don't have to run it through my A\V receiver whenever I turn it on! I'm more than happy with my purchase. What grates are the so-called "experts" telling me the CCFL model is every bit as good, when clearly - to my eye at least - it's not! I'm not talking about calibrating or adjusting greyscales to a particular standard, I mean sitting down with the remote and adjusting to suit a personal preference. TV has never looked so good, But I can't help but get the feeling that a lot of recent CCFL LCD buyers are living in denial (no, not the river )! I think they now realise that their recent purchase will remind them of their choice for the next 5 years or so, so they deride LED backlighting at every opportunity to make them feel better about the inferior choice they made.

I simply say; different strokes for different folks.

[robrymond]

I have to agree with the last post, I've yet to see an LCD match up to the spec of the Samsung LED's, from a casual point of view. I'm no tech, I don't adjust the specs lots, but to me it had the best picture.

I wouldn't pay £400-£500 premium, but as I picked up the 6 series 40 inch for £599, I consider this a good price, but I wouldn't pay £1000 for it!

[dalegt4]

i agree with the above, i paid £1300 for my samsung led and a year later ive not seen a tv with a better picture on high def sources.. and everyone who walks in the house thinks its stunning.. so as above, different people, different tastes.

[fayraz]

I had a look at LED but was not impressed with the picture quality, so I am now looking for a plasma the Samsung 63" is first choice at the moment.

[richard napier]

I,ve just brought the LG LE4500 , I have to say after using the normal tube back lit TV's - The LED ones are much better - improved contrast, almost pure blacks ,and top of the telly is always cool , unlike the others which were like radiators! worth the extra money.