Your biggest gripe with KZ2?

prvjoker · 03-03-2009, 12:21 AM

..mine is.....no footsteps sounds in MP. I'm used to playing other FPS' where I can here if my opponent is nearby. If he's moving while crouching I expect him to be silent but now it's possible for someone to run right up to you and you can't hear it lol.

P-e-G-i · 03-03-2009, 1:53 AM

No co-op! The game is perfetly suited for co-op. don't think they could add it as dlc either.

**Hillskill** · 03-03-2009, 2:05 AM

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Originally Posted by P-e-G-i

No co-op! The game is perfetly suited for co-op. don't think they could add it as dlc either.

Agreed. Big oversight in this day and age.

Se777eN · 03-03-2009, 5:26 AM

I hope we get co-op in DLC soon

Stinja · 03-03-2009, 7:35 AM

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Your biggest gripe with KZ2?

People bleating on that it isnt CoD4 or Halo 3 or whatever

stormy · 03-03-2009, 7:59 AM

I have two gripes, one the server broswer doesn't give enough info. It would be nice to see what map is currently on the rotation for example.

Also, I would love to be able to configure games in skirmish better, seen as bots have been removed online. It should let you configure the games for skirmish just like an online game.

My third gripe, yes I know I said I had two is I am carp at the game and think I need a brain transplant to be able to play FPS games with DS.

prvjoker · 03-03-2009, 8:25 AM

here's another...no ping time listed next to server. Although I have had zero lag in any of the games I've played I'd still like to see the ping time.

Also there should be an instant refresh button, I shouldn't have to hit options then refresh each time grrrr.

Auto queue full server, sometimes there's a server i really want to get on but it's full...instead of me spamming to get on it I'd like to just be next in line when a spot opens up so I should be able to join it as a spectator.

stormy · 03-03-2009, 8:46 AM

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Originally Posted by prvjoker

here's another...no ping time listed next to server. Although I have had zero lag in any of the games I've played I'd still like to see the ping time.

Also there should be an instant refresh button, I shouldn't have to hit options then refresh each time grrrr.

Auto queue full server, sometimes there's a server i really want to get on but it's full...instead of me spamming to get on it I'd like to just be next in line when a spot opens up so I should be able to join it as a spectator.

Good ideas.

I must admit I have not had any lag I don't think. I have seen a little bit of screen slowdown when there has been mass carnage on screen but I have been impressed with how the game has been on a wireless connection.

*redwinnie* · 03-03-2009, 8:54 AM

Mine would have to be the timing of the auto save points. Numerous times I have died and respawned in the place I died, with no way of escape. Having to restart section from menu.

Oh and another one. When one of your squad (in SP) shouts "come over here", where the bloody hell is over here. Would an arrow not have been to much to ask for?

antilles · 03-03-2009, 9:00 AM

Press up on the d-pad....that'll give you directions on where to go.

Gripes.....Hmmmm, stupidly crap aiming. Even when there's a bad guy right in front of me, my weapon slews around all over the joint because of that ridiculous "start slow-speed up" laggy movement.

So far the game feels like a demo for rag-doll/mo-cap physics with a campaign sellotaped on.

Rich

TyFlip · 03-03-2009, 9:03 AM

My only gripe is not being able to invite friends into a lobby. However, I'm forming the opinion that the current joining mates is actually not that bad. You go online, find a friend and simply join their game.

Trying to get a lobby full of familiars however seems a slight chore as you need to spam out over PSN with the usual "join game".

Other than this I can't think of owt......oh hang on, the chat is awful for some reason, the worst of any online game I've played in the past year.

Battlestar · 03-03-2009, 9:05 AM

Pretty sure this game is avarge at best, but my bigest grip is , as some have sasid , the stupid aiming and heavy recoil of the guns. Its so frustrating, that i just dont have the patients to carry on with it online.

stormy · 03-03-2009, 9:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Ty-Flip

My only gripe is not being able to invite friends into a lobby. However, I'm forming the opinion that the current joining mates is actually not that bad. You go online, find a friend and simply join their game.

Trying to get a lobby full of familiars however seems a slight chore as you need to spam out over PSN with the usual "join game".
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Yeh, the game master should be able to if they wish have more control, putting people where they want them on factions and stopping people from starting the game when the others are trying to wait for people to join.

I am surprised we managed to get one game AVF vs last night before it all went free for all to be honest.

I think with a bit of tinkering, the invite system, and online game setup can be great. If anything will actually change, who knows.

SilverSpider · 03-03-2009, 9:23 AM

I have a good sight more than one, but I will only mention 2 of them at the moment.

1) Not smooth enough (especially online) - should have been 60fps, even if the graphics or resolution had to be lowered to achieve it.

2) Not able to bring up the full map whilst playing online - it's only visible when you spawn.

Ta

Mickus · 03-03-2009, 9:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Stinja

People bleating on that it isnt CoD4 or Halo 3 or whatever

+1.

Rossco08 · 03-03-2009, 9:46 AM

my biggest gripes on MP are the lack of general vision i feel like i've got tunnel vision when i walk into a room not being able to easily scan round for enemys makes me feel like i dont have full control over my character (hope people get what i mean)

I also think that too often in the MP its a case of a 1v1 shootout when u spot an enemy, whoever reacts quickest, you have to hope u spot an enemy who's already targeted a team mate. Makes it difficult to get big kill sprees

Finally how can u shoot from a safe distance without running out of ammo? Fire off a couple of rounds from long range and unless u can safely pick up there dropped ammo your stuck with the pistol, not so bad on smaller maps mind

Mickus · 03-03-2009, 9:48 AM

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Originally Posted by SilverSpider

2) Not able to bring up the full map whilst playing online - it's only visible when you spawn.

Ta

Agreed on the map thing.

Would also like the ability to talk across squads at anytime (to the squad leader would suffice)

gingerninja72 · 03-03-2009, 10:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Rossco08

my biggest gripes on MP are the lack of general vision i feel like i've got tunnel vision when i walk into a room not being able to easily scan round for enemys makes me feel like i dont have full control over my character (hope people get what i mean)

I know exactly what you mean. It's just the general feeling of not being in control. And the aiming is abysmal. My thread was just closed instantly - not sure why, it wasn't inflammatory, I was just putting my thoughts about the game down.

I really do not see what the fuss over this game is. Resistance 2 is far superior - I even think the graphics are better.

TeggDon · 03-03-2009, 10:04 AM

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Originally Posted by antilles

Press up on the d-pad....that'll give you directions on where to go.

Gripes.....Hmmmm, stupidly crap aiming. Even when there's a bad guy right in front of me, my weapon slews around all over the joint because of that ridiculous "start slow-speed up" laggy movement.

So far the game feels like a demo for rag-doll/mo-cap physics with a campaign sellotaped on.

Rich

More like you are crap at aiming. Also lower the sensitivity if you are a fool who whacked it all the way up thinking you are Jonathan Wendel.

gingerninja72 · 03-03-2009, 10:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Tegg

More like you are crap at aiming. Also lower the sensitivity if you are a fool who whacked it all the way up thinking you are Jonathan Wendel.

The controls in this game are hugely unbalanced, it's not to do with being 'crap at aiming'. I feel exactly the same

Paul_T · 03-03-2009, 10:15 AM

My biggest gripe by a long way is being blocked in a doorway or on a stairwell when trying to get past a team-mate - they just stand there saying "we need to move!" while standing motionless

TeggDon · 03-03-2009, 10:19 AM

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Originally Posted by gingerninja72

The controls in this game are hugely unbalanced, it's not to do with being 'crap at aiming'. I feel exactly the same

Unbalanced? What other nonsense are you going to come up with

Jon Weaver · 03-03-2009, 10:20 AM

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Originally Posted by gingerninja72

The controls in this game are hugely unbalanced, it's not to do with being 'crap at aiming'. I feel exactly the same

Its funny.. Some people seem to love the controls and really get on with them.. Others (me included) find them AWFUL..

I have played MP every day since getting the game on Wednesday.. I have tried changing my game style to suit the game (i.e not running and gunning, not looking down the sights, etc) to try and find an aspect that I like and the sad conclusion is that I HATE it! Hate is a really strong word, but its the way I feel.

It just feels wrong.. I just can't get to grip with the controls at all.. It just feels wrong and I can't put my finger on what it is... This combined with the 'zoomed in' view and the short stance, I just find myself feeling unengaged.

I don't know what it is.. I said this from the very first game I played (and posted this in my "What do you think of KZ poll", I just don't feel like I am playing against 'real' people!

With other on-line games such as COD4 and WAW (Sorry to mention COD, but its an obvious comparison) and Warhawk, I actually FEEL like I am playing against others.. I feel genuine anger when I get killed and real satisfaction when I make a kill (especially if its a revenge kill).. But with KZ, I feel nothing.. Nothing other than complete confusion and frustration.

I am not anti KZ by any means.. I so wanted to be good.. I obsessed over the screenshots, reviews and vidoes like many... But for me, it just hasnt' delivered. And I realised that I could have been expecting too much, but this isn't about disappointment.. This is about a game fundimentally not working for me.

With many other on-line games I play(ed), I 'got it' from the second I first played.. I may not have been any good, or understood what was going on.. But i "got it".. But with KZ, I didn't get any feeling like that at all, and never have.. Not once.. Even on a game, where I have killed more than dying, I just found it a choir!

I would love to think that some kind of 'patch' will address this, but for me, its so completely flawed, that I dont' think I will ever get on with it..

And this makes me sad, as I had been looking forwards to KZ for a very VERY long time

TeggDon · 03-03-2009, 10:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Paul_T

My biggest gripe by a long way is being blocked in a doorway or on a stairwell when trying to get past a team-mate - they just stand there saying "we need to move!" while standing motionless

Give them a little nudge.

TeggDon · 03-03-2009, 10:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Jon Weaver

Its funny.. Some people seem to love the controls and really get on with them.. Others (me included) find them AWFUL..

I have played MP almost every day since getting the game on Wednesday.. I have tried changing my game play to try and find an aspect that I like and the sad conclusion is that I HATE it! Hate is a really strong word, but its the way I feel.

It just feels wrong.. I just can't get to grip with the controls at all.. It just feels wrong.. Combined with the 'zoomed in' view and the short stance, I just find myself feeling unengaged.

I don't know what it is.. I said this from the very first game I played (and posted this in my "What do you think of KZ poll", I just don't feel like I am playing against 'real' people

With other on-line games such as COD4 and WAW (Sorry to mention COD, but its an obvious comparison) and Warhawk, I actually FEEL like I am playing against others.. I feel genuine anger when I get killed and real satisfaction when I make a kill (especially if its a revenge kill).. But with KZ, I feel nothing.. Nothing other than complete confusion and frustration.

I am not anti KZ by any means.. I so wanted to be good.. I obsessed over the screenshots, reviews and vidoes like many... But for me, it just hasnt' delivered.

I would love to think that some kind of 'patch' will address this, but for me, its so completely flawed, that I dont' think I will ever get on with it..

And this makes me sad, as I had been looking forwards to KZ for a very VERY long time

There is nothing wrong with the controls, sure they are different but this is where you need to adjust not the game.

Also people shouldnt be increasing the sensitivity if you cant aim. Best to lower it and work your way up slowly. This is the case with any game.

BenchyUK · 03-03-2009, 10:25 AM

Mine are the loading pauses in single player. I wouldn't have minded a Hard Drive Instal if it prevented the issue

**Hillskill** · 03-03-2009, 10:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Paul_T

My biggest gripe by a long way is being blocked in a doorway or on a stairwell when trying to get past a team-mate - they just stand there saying "we need to move!" while standing motionless

I agree. The amount of times last night

"Guys, I'm trying to get through.....Guys.....GUYS !!!!" Also just when you are trying to set up a turret gun someone will come stand next to you and stop it mid spawn.

Robothamster · 03-03-2009, 10:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Tegg

There is nothing wrong with the controls, sure they are different but this is where you need to adjust not the game.

Agreed, I find them fine. I'm not a great player by any means but not once have I got frustrated with the controls and felt the way Jon Weaver has described. Feel bad for you mate that you can't get on with the game despite wanting to but if you feel that strongly (hate) then that must tell you that it's not for you.

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Originally Posted by BenchyUK

Mine are the loading pauses in single player. I wouldn't have minded a Hard Drive Instal if it prevented the issue

Agree with this, my main gripe with the SP. That and the annoying American Jock type characters but they are fitting for the game so expected. Think I prefered the 'misfit' soldiers in BF:Bad Company as there was some humour there and not all macho BS.

Paul_T · 03-03-2009, 10:33 AM

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Originally Posted by BenchyUK

Mine are the loading pauses in single player. I wouldn't have minded a Hard Drive Instal if it prevented the issue

Thats my only other minor gripe - I know the pause is only a split second but it's does bug you after a while.

DJ Ovengloves · 03-03-2009, 10:33 AM

I corrected your post for you

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Originally Posted by Tegg

In my opinion There is nothing wrong with the controls, sure they are different but this is where you need to adjust not the game.

In my opinion it's better if people don't increase the sensitivity if you cant aim. For me, it's best to lower it and work your way up slowly. This is the case with any game. (for me)