[darren68uk]

Ok. need some serious help,,,,,

only got my phone a week........it had fw 2.1 i jail broke it, all seemed well, installed a few apps, but today it would not let me use the phone every time i selected to make a call it crashed back to summer board,,,, so not being at home or near a pc,,,,

i decided to do a full reset which it said could take an hour,,, anyway three hours later all it does is boot to the pineapple logo and stay there and every 5 mins reboot back to it,,,, :-(

ive tried holding home and on/off button etc but it just switches off and does nothing else,,,

wot can i do ,,, im new to this ,,, so havent set up things like ssh etc,,,,

any help very much appreciated

[Matt_C]

When you switch it on and get the "pineapple logo", does your iTunes detect it (when you have it plugged in to the computer obviously?

Cos if so, you could probably use iTunes to do a full software restore, which would turn it all back to standard.

Then you'd need to jailbreak it again of course.....

[darren68uk]

Originally Posted by Matt_C

When you switch it on and get the "pineapple logo", does your iTunes detect it (when you have it plugged in to the computer obviously?

Cos if so, you could probably use iTunes to do a full software restore, which would turn it all back to standard.

Then you'd need to jailbreak it again of course.....

im at work at the mo and the comp im using has an older version of itunes on it 7.5 .

it doesnt see the phone , but cos its work the pcs are not the best, so to answer that question ill have to wait till i get home at 23:30

if it still doesnt see it , wot are my options if any :-(

[Mr. Roboto]

This happened the 1st time I jailbroke my phone, I did a full restore on iTunes. The phone worked fine after that.

[darren68uk]

Originally Posted by Mr. Roboto

This happened the 1st time I jailbroke my phone, I did a full restore on iTunes. The phone worked fine after that.

Hi so your saying in its current state permanantly at the pinneapple logo when you plugged it in i tunes recognised it and you where able to restore it,,,

sorry not questioning your help, it just will be re-assuring to know while im sat here at working thinking ive bricked my £400 phone, that theres hope at the end of my shift

[Matt_C]

Darren, having not been in your situation, I honestly don't know. If it doesn't boot up and iTunes can't see it, for you to do a restore, then I honestly don't know. The only other thing I can think off if Itunes doesn't see it, is to put it into restore mode, also known as DFU mode, instructions on which are all over google - here's one for example;

iClarified - iPhone - How to Put an iPhone Into DFU Mode (Comments)

I had to do this with an iTouch one time, but that did boot up to a useable state, just it wouldn't work with iTunes. Putting it into DFU mode got the two to talk to each other and let me do a full firmware restore.

If that doesn't work, then you're gonna have to take it to Apple I'm afraid. Best bet would be to pop into an Apple store and see if any of the tech guys there can figure it out. This would be a last resort tho!

[darren68uk]

Originally Posted by Matt_C

Darren, having not been in your situation, I honestly don't know. If it doesn't boot up and iTunes can't see it, for you to do a restore, then I honestly don't know. The only other thing I can think off if Itunes doesn't see it, is to put it into restore mode, also known as DFU mode, instructions on which are all over google - here's one for example;

iClarified - iPhone - How to Put an iPhone Into DFU Mode (Comments)

I had to do this with an iTouch one time, but that did boot up to a useable state, just it wouldn't work with iTunes. Putting it into DFU mode got the two to talk to each other and let me do a full firmware restore.

If that doesn't work, then you're gonna have to take it to Apple I'm afraid. Best bet would be to pop into an Apple store and see if any of the tech guys there can figure it out. This would be a last resort tho!

thanks for the link,,,,,,, trouble with looking for the right answer is knowing the right question expecailly with google lol,,,, i seen DFU mode splattered about, but didnt bother/understand what it meant or was for,,,,

I will up date in the morning,,,, but thanks for all your help ,,, and comments from Mr. Roboto its nice to feel helped in a crysis,,,,,

[hutch]

Originally Posted by darren68uk

i decided to do a full reset which it said could take an hour,,, anyway three hours later all it does is boot to the pineapple logo and stay there and every 5 mins reboot back to it,,,, :-(

Let me guess that you had 5 icon dock installed....

This was doing my head in as well I would restore my phone and the restore would work fine but when I restored my backup I got an endless reboot with the Apple/Pineapple logo and the spinning wheel of death.

The only way to fix it is to restore again from your custom firmware but before restoring the phone from your backup install 5 icon dock through Cydia.

And voilla your backup will work perfectly

[darren68uk]

Originally Posted by hutch

Let me guess that you had 5 icon dock installed....

This was doing my head in as well I would restore my phone and the restore would work fine but when I restored my backup I got an endless reboot with the Apple/Pineapple logo and the spinning wheel of death.

The only way to fix it is to restore again from your custom firmware but before restoring the phone from your backup install 5 icon dock through Cydia.

And voilla your backup will work perfectly

thanks Hutch, not sure about 5 icon dock , think i had a mad minute and installed everything,,,, going home now(takes 2hours) so will c wot the pc has to say about fixing my bloody £400 brick doh!!!

[MitsiTurbo]

I had the problem of it crashing out of the phone screen and found that it was caused by installing 'Kate'. Havent had any problems with 5 icon dock and had that running for ages now. Not sure if you did the same thing but I had to do a restore in iTunes and then rejailbreak.

[darren68uk]

Originally Posted by MitsiTurbo

I had the problem of it crashing out of the phone screen and found that it was caused by installing 'Kate'. Havent had any problems with 5 icon dock and had that running for ages now. Not sure if you did the same thing but I had to do a restore in iTunes and then rejailbreak.

hmmm youve hit the nail on the head it was definately "Kates" fault remember that being one of the last things i installed,,, in the process of restoring Ipphone now crossed things its done by the time i finish this,,,,


either way thanks to you all really apreciate the effort,,,,,

p.s
im not really interested in games etc,, all i wanted was quick icons for blutooth on/off and wireless on/off and swirly mms can these be had without jailbraking phone,,,


p.p.s hey hey im back in business phone back to out the box,,,:-)

[Matt_C]

So I take it iTunes did find it and let you do a full restore?

I've heard many bad things about Kate, and I very nearly installed it myself, and glad I didn't as virtually everything I have read about it is negative! So many people claiming it messed up their phone and caused it to crash and then not boot anymore! Stay away from it! Winterboard is much better anyway

[darren68uk]

Originally Posted by Matt_C

So I take it iTunes did find it and let you do a full restore?

I've heard many bad things about Kate, and I very nearly installed it myself, and glad I didn't as virtually everything I have read about it is negative! So many people claiming it messed up their phone and caused it to crash and then not boot anymore! Stay away from it! Winterboard is much better anyway

yep it found it, fully restored it etc,
funny thing was this morning when i switched it on this morning, it was like it was in demo mode and had the picture of the cable connecting to itunes, and it was cycling different languages,,, better than cycling a pineapple i guess!!!

so re connected it to i tunes then it just come up with phones activated ? thoght i did that last night,,anyway I ive JB it now but will be very carefull of what i install :-)

[Matt_C]

Hows it running now?

As said I don't have KATE installed cos of the bad things I read about it, but have Winterboard and the 5 Icon Dock and neither seem to pose a problem (touch wood) along with several other hacks and manipulations (personally, I recommend you install (from Cydia) the Status Notifier Icons, then install the Status Notifier Icon Replacement package (better icons for the above app) and then install the NotifierWidget which gives really nice looking notifications on the lock screen for missed calls, new mail, new SMS, and new MMS... I did it to mine the other day and it's now almost as usefull as my Nokia was for letting me know when I have missed calls, new SMS etc

[darren68uk]

Hi Matt
its running nice now... Ive JB'd it , but thats it have not touched it othe than that,,,will leave it till the weekend, but will look at what you have suggested,,

what app are you using for MMS,,,, ?

I dont know why but when i had 2G iphone i wasn't really interested in it, but this 3G one im in love with.. especailly as my Switcheasy CapsuleNeo CaBlack Case turned up today....

[Matt_C]

There is only one app, that actually works, for MMS and thats SwirlyMMS (found on Cydia) and whilst yes, we should have got MMS as standard on the iPhone and shouldn't have to pay for it, I don't begrudge paying the £4.50 or whatever it is for the licence as it's something I would have found hard to live without! Probably more so than the lack of Bluetooth (The lack of bluetooth is a bit of a pain, but isn't something that was the most important thing when it came to choosing a phone - I do miss being able to quickly and easily send notes, docs, music, pics etc to and from my phone and my computer like I did with my Nokia connected to the PC via bluetooth, but such is life....)

Now I'm all wirelessed up again, I'm finding it very easy to send things to and from the iphone using wifi - I can send to the phone using the Airsharing app, which lets you use WIndows "Network Places" to set up a network location and view the files and folders in that app - and sending stuff to the phone on the desktop is as simple as drag and drop. And because it's JailBroken, I've installed MobileFinder (from Cydia, not the App Store version) which allows you to navigate the route and move, copy, rename and delete files from location to location - so I can easily send a file to AirSharing, then move it to where I want using MobileFinder - which is cool!

For example - if I'm on my desktop, easiest is to just plug the phone into the dock and even without iTunes, Windows allows you to browse and copy out the photo's from the camera roll you want. I can also then, with it still plugged in, use a program called iPhoneBrowser to view the phone folder structure and copy/move/delete etc file to and from the phone and computer... But, if I am on my laptop, I don't have a USB cable, I can use the wifi connection to work with the phone. So, I can use MobileFinder to look in the camera roll location, pick a picture I want, copy it, navigate to the AirSharing folder, paste it into the Documents folder within Airsharing, then open the AirSharing app, and the computer can see whats in it, and then copy the picture to my laptop. Then I can do with it what I want (ie, upload to phtobucket, or facebook etc.)

Doesn't work for multiple files, it's one at a time, but even so, it's still quite usefull....

[darren68uk]

thks again,,,, will cetainly spend the weekend, looking thru the options,,

my second obstacle is mastering protector films for the dcreen,, the two i got the with protective case were a bith to get on , i.e it took trying both before i kinda got it right :-x

you say lack of bluetooth do you mean in its ability to do what it can,,,,

personally i only use it for the pioneer BT Headunit in the car and it works atreat with the iphone better than mu nokia ever did

[hutch]

Originally Posted by Matt_C

but have Winterboard and the 5 Icon Dock and neither seem to pose a problem (touch wood)

5 icon dock will only cause problems when you try to restore from a custom firmware after it being installed

Just wait for the influx of people once the new firmware comes out getting stuck in the endless reboot

[Matt_C]

Originally Posted by hutch

5 icon dock will only cause problems when you try to restore from a custom firmware after it being installed

Just wait for the influx of people once the new firmware comes out getting stuck in the endless reboot

Ah, I see - thanks for the heads up

So probably best to uninstall it before doing to firmware update and subsequent jailbreak then?

[hutch]

Yes or before you restore your phone from a backup install 5 icon dock through cydia

[Matt_C]