iPhone 3G & Firmware 2.0 discussion

hutch · 05-06-2008, 10:30 AM

Well the rumour mill is working overtime again and it looks very likely that the 2nd Gen iPhone and Firmware 2.0 will be released on Monday 9th at Mr Jobs' Keynote speech.

All discussion about both these things is to go in this thread please until the obvious furore dies down a bit.

And as with all firmware releases DO NOT upgrade unless you are on an official iPhone contract, we will be keeping on top of things as much as possible and giving you the up to date latest news as it happens

roaster · 05-06-2008, 3:56 PM

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Originally Posted by hutch.

. . . it looks very likely that the 2nd Gen iPhone and Firmware 2.0 will be released on Monday 9th at Mr Jobs' Keynote speech. . . .

I think that would be launched, not released. If we're very lucky it will be released within days. In order to avoid the FCC instantly publishing details, it is imperative to keep even its existence under wraps until the launch, so having container loads floating around multiple countries is too risky. And for the same reason it could be that there is nothing about it at all on 9th!

What we want that isn't in the already announced software update: 3G, GPS, video, iChat AV, Instant Messaging, cut & paste.

What is strongly suspected: .Mac is being completely revamped to support iPhone / iPod touch, and replace your PC as the "centre of your digital life", transparently syncing all your devices. No need for a PC at all, perhaps.

roaster · 05-06-2008, 8:17 PM

Here you go. Quanta (one of Apple's key subcontract makers) has rather a lot of boxes in California at the moment!

SeedyR · 05-06-2008, 10:45 PM

From MacRumours.

Recent patent filing for 3G iPhone and firmware 2.0:

"The device supports a variety of applications, such as one or more of the following: a telephone application, a video conferencing application, an e-mail application, an instant messaging application, a blogging application, a photo management application, a digital camera application, a digital video camera application, a web browsing application, a digital music player application, and/or a digital video player application."

hutch · 08-06-2008, 9:38 AM

Good article from the telegraph here

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/money/mai...niphone108.xml

Free to the people on the most expensive contract
Forced instore signup for contract customers
PAYG option
18 month contract

seerm77 · 08-06-2008, 9:56 AM

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Originally Posted by hutch.

Good article from the telegraph here

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/money/mai...niphone108.xml

Free to the people on the most expensive contract
Forced instore signup for contract customers
PAYG option
18 month contract

Does this mean we can't get it on-line? We (new customers) will have to go to a O2 shop to get it?

LazyDonkey · 08-06-2008, 11:40 AM

For existing iPhone owners with jailbroken phones, what will the 2.0 Firmware update mean? Haven't really being paying attention recently.

Do we not update due to issues with certain apps etc...???

hutch · 08-06-2008, 11:51 AM

did you even read the first post?

I believe that Apps and Installer do not work on the latest 2.0 Beta firmwares, expect the same with the final release.

SeedyR · 08-06-2008, 6:00 PM

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Originally Posted by seerm77

Does this mean we can't get it on-line? We (new customers) will have to go to a O2 shop to get it?

I imagine if you sign up online (agree to contract, give bank details etc) then you will be able to order online as well as go to an actual shop.

stooshee · 08-06-2008, 6:23 PM

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Originally Posted by hutch.

Good article from the telegraph here

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/money/mai...niphone108.xml

Free to the people on the most expensive contract
Forced instore signup for contract customers
PAYG option
18 month contract

Right I am confused by this. So assuming this was true... the customers on the most expensive monthly contract will not have to buy the phone. I am only on the £35 contract (lowest) what does this mean? Will I have some sort of charge for the iphone and a new 18 month contract?

TBH this is good news (if I understand correctly that is) as o2 really dont have to let us upgrade, but I suppose it is good for them as they get us for another 18 months...either that or I have picked up something completely wrong?

EDIT: Just re read it again and I understand now...brand new customers, DUH! I'm sorry, I will go and waken up now!

Thanks

seerm77 · 08-06-2008, 7:52 PM

I hope for new customers (like myself) we will be able to get the 3G iphone for £100 under the £35 contract (18 months). If not (i.e.: more expensive) i will have to go for the HTC Diamond.

seerm77 · 08-06-2008, 7:58 PM

Interesting read:

http://arstechnica.com/journals/appl...gns-for-monday

This will probably mean that it will be out in the US tomorrow... but we in the UK may have to wait a week or month. Who knows!?!?!?

Paul_T · 09-06-2008, 8:43 AM

I was planning on buying one to unlock to use on Orange - but if it can be gotten for £35 a month for £100 upfront then I'll probably take it on o2 for that - paying an extra £200 or so just to keep my number doesnt really make sense.

seerm77 · 09-06-2008, 9:58 AM

[QUOTE=Paul_T;7166417]I was planning on buying one to unlock to use on Orange - but if it can be gotten for £35 a month for £100 upfront then I'll probably take it on o2 for that - paying an extra £200 or so just to keep my number doesnt really make sense.[/QUOTE]

Can't you transfer numbers over on the iphone (if you get a PAC code)?

seerm77 · 09-06-2008, 10:10 AM

According to the Telepgraph the phone will be out in the UK next month (July) with the rumored price cuts being true. For more info look here:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2098...3G-iPhone.html

Paul_T · 09-06-2008, 11:51 AM

[QUOTE=seerm77;7166823]

Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul_T

I was planning on buying one to unlock to use on Orange - but if it can be gotten for £35 a month for £100 upfront then I'll probably take it on o2 for that - paying an extra £200 or so just to keep my number doesnt really make sense.[/QUOTE]

Can't you transfer numbers over on the iphone (if you get a PAC code)?

Yes, of course but I'm mid-contract and my Broadband is all mixed into my Orange contract and as I've had decent service from them I'm quite happy to stay.

My wife's contract is about to expire though so she's getting my current Orange contract and will "make do" with a SE K850i while I get the new iPhone, just means I get a new number and she gets the old one.

Is it possible to change mob. no's mid contract?

olisun · 09-06-2008, 11:52 AM

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Originally Posted by seerm77

According to the Telepgraph the phone will be out in the UK next month (July) with the rumored price cuts being true. For more info look here:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2098...3G-iPhone.html

I believe all will be revealed next monday the 16th

Andy.T · 09-06-2008, 1:27 PM

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Originally Posted by olisun

I believe all will be revealed next monday the 16th

Nope, all will be revealed in 3hrs 34mins when Steve Jobs announces it in San Francisco.

Neil294 · 09-06-2008, 1:34 PM

With a 7 hour time difference between here and San Fran, should be the early hours of the morning for us here in the UK, or is Sussex operating in a different time zone these days?

Andy.T · 09-06-2008, 1:36 PM

Que?

It's 8 hours difference (at least to Sussex

) and as Mr. Jobs is standing up at 10am I make that 6pm?

Neil294 · 09-06-2008, 1:42 PM

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Que?

It's 8 hours difference (at least to Sussex ) and as Mr. Jobs is standing up at 10am I make that 6pm?

I thought that too, but then with daylight saving the site I looked up claimed it was 7 hours. Who knows?

Was also checking out the schedule on the apple site here but it's changed from this morning. Earlier it said iphone annoucement was at 1700, now it's iphone development. I'll shut up now and go back to hitting refresh on the announcements page. Nothing like being prepared...

sco101 · 09-06-2008, 2:04 PM

an iphone for under £100

*runs of to get debit card*

Bilbob · 09-06-2008, 2:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Neil294

I thought that too, but then with daylight saving the site I looked up claimed it was 7 hours. Who knows?

Was also checking out the schedule on the apple site here but it's changed from this morning. Earlier it said iphone annoucement was at 1700, now it's iphone development. I'll shut up now and go back to hitting refresh on the announcements page. Nothing like being prepared...

Check out the schedule table, and it lists a room called 'nob hill'...

I'll get me coat...

psikey · 09-06-2008, 2:33 PM

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Originally Posted by sco101

an iphone for under £100

*runs of to get debit card*

Refreshing for someone to state "debit card" rather than credit card

in debt mad UK

Paul_T · 09-06-2008, 2:40 PM

Engadget are now reporting a lot on online Apple stores have the "be back soon" sign.

just checked UK store and its not one of them...

Tuesday afternoon has a conference for iPhone game development - anyone for iHalo?

seerm77 · 09-06-2008, 2:43 PM

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Originally Posted by olisun

I believe all will be revealed next monday the 16th

Why the 16th?

seerm77 · 09-06-2008, 2:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul_T

Engadget are now reporting a lot on online Apple stores have the "be back soon" sign.

just checked UK store and its not one of them...

Tuesday afternoon has a conference for iPhone game development - anyone for iHalo?

Yes it is my friend... in fact if you go to the UK apple website to buy an iphone it says come back soon we are updating.

Fingers crossed we will be getting it very soon then!!!!!!!!

O2 are still saying out of stock.