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Old 18-11-2009, 7:52 AM   #1
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Pay go iPhone price drop after Christmas/voda getting it?

Hi all

I'm wanting to buy the mrs a 3g
been looking on eBay and they are going for around 250-280 which seems stupid considering no warrenty and a year of battery use

i could probably buy one and claim the vat back as it's for business, but it still works out over 300 quid

if after Christmas there is likley to be a price drop on paygo hansets then I'll wait

but if not I may as well bite the bullet and buy it for Christmas

any advice appreciated
thanks
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Old 18-11-2009, 9:49 AM   #2
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Re: Pay go iPhone price drop after Christmas/voda getting it?

i believe Apple ditate the price and the iphone is selling well so there'll be no price drop and never have been by apple until a new iphone is released so shift old stock.

I'd just buy one now also before the VAT goes up.
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Old 18-11-2009, 9:55 AM   #3
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Re: Pay go iPhone price drop after Christmas/voda getting it?

I don't see a price drop happening until June/July when the new iPhone is expected to come out.

Why would they drop the price when they are selling in the bucketloads and O2 shops hardly have any stock of them?

We've already seen Orange come out with a price for PAYG that is £10 more expensive than the O2 price and I don't see vodafone being any better. I don't see why they should :D
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Re: Pay go iPhone price drop after Christmas/voda getting it?

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We've already seen Orange come out with a price for PAYG that is £10 more expensive than the O2 price and I don't see vodafone being any better. I don't see why they should :D

Only £10 more because it inc £10 top up.
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Old 18-11-2009, 10:32 AM   #5
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Re: Pay go iPhone price drop after Christmas/voda getting it?

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Only £10 more because it inc £10 top up.
As is the O2 version, which you can't buy without a topup.

And to the OP - Don't expect a price drop at any stage in the future. Apple hardware costs the same wherever you buy it, be that an iPod, Macbook or iPhone. Price fixing is illegal, but Apples hardware margins are so tight the price will remain the same everywhere even if every network takes it on.
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Old 18-11-2009, 12:12 PM   #6
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Re: Pay go iPhone price drop after Christmas/voda getting it?

thanks all for your contribution
it's helped put my mind at rest and to just got for it

Cheers guys!
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Old 18-11-2009, 12:41 PM   #7
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Re: Pay go iPhone price drop after Christmas/voda getting it?

so are vodafone likely to sell the £440 payg iphone at £451? this will only make sense if you dont have to buy £10 topup with it.
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Re: Pay go iPhone price drop after Christmas/voda getting it?

They will follow suit with their normal PAYG policy. If you have to topup their current PAYG range when you buy one, you'll have to do so with the iPhone.
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Old 18-11-2009, 1:11 PM   #9
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Re: Pay go iPhone price drop after Christmas/voda getting it?

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As is the O2 version, which you can't buy without a topup.

And to the OP - Don't expect a price drop at any stage in the future. Apple hardware costs the same wherever you buy it, be that an iPod, Macbook or iPhone. Price fixing is illegal, but Apples hardware margins are so tight the price will remain the same everywhere even if every network takes it on.
I never let them charge me the £10 extra at the time. Just say you already have an O2 SIM at home and they won't. But you have to top up the £10 to activate the free internet.
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If I buy an iphone from apple store PAYG (either orange/o2 sim) and put a vodafone simcard in will it work on vodafone? same question but buy from carphone warehouse
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Old 20-11-2009, 11:59 AM   #11
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If I buy an iphone from apple store PAYG (either orange/o2 sim) and put a vodafone simcard in will it work on vodafone? same question but buy from carphone warehouse

No, unless you jailbreak and unlock it.
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No, unless you jailbreak and unlock it.
but i thought the payg phones that apple provide were unlocked until you activate with either o2 or orange sim?
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Old 20-11-2009, 12:13 PM   #13
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To get a bit more money off, you could try purchasing online through quidco, I'm not too sure how much you will get back though.

One other thing is my local Apple Store gives discounts for local authority workers 8%, and for some other local companies, so may be worth asking if they do anything.

I got £50 off a MacBook Pro for my sister, and just under a fiver on the magic mouse.
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but i thought the payg phones that apple provide were unlocked until you activate with either o2 or orange sim?

No, not sure how you came to that conclusion.

Only way of buying them unlocked is somewhere like Italy or play.com.
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Old 20-11-2009, 12:38 PM   #15
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No, not sure how you came to that conclusion.

Only way of buying them unlocked is somewhere like Italy or play.com.
http://www.avforums.com/forums/iphon...l#post10762499
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That does not say that you can buy them unlocked here?

Situation is that wherever you get the iphone from in the uk it will be locked to either O2 or Orange.

Or am i missing something?
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Old 20-11-2009, 3:07 PM   #17
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As is the O2 version, which you can't buy without a topup.
Wrong I bought my 3GS on PAYG from the Apple store (online) and didnt have to buy a £10 topup.
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Wrong I bought my 3GS on PAYG from the Apple store (online) and didnt have to buy a £10 topup.
Same here, but got a PAYG sim (which i sold )
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iPhone - Apple Store (U.K.)

I dont see why they just dont sell them unlocked after voda start selling them.T-mobile already offer existing customers the iphone and Three also offer high spending users the iphone so thats all the UK networks.Wish they would just unlock the sodding thing
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I dont see why they just dont sell them unlocked after voda start selling them.T-mobile already offer existing customers the iphone and Three also offer high spending users the iphone so thats all the UK networks.Wish they would just unlock the sodding thing
If you get an O2 Handset on contract you can unlock it at any time. I'm not sure about orange though.
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I dont see why they just dont sell them unlocked after voda start selling them.T-mobile already offer existing customers the iphone and Three also offer high spending users the iphone so thats all the UK networks.Wish they would just unlock the sodding thing
It's a fairly trivial thing to scan the barcode and register the imei/uuid of a phone to the apple server and lock to a specific provider. I'm sure Apple would be fine selling them unlocked but obviously the providers here are not.
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If you get an O2 Handset on contract you can unlock it at any time. I'm not sure about orange though.
By which point you'd be well on your way to spending less money on an officially unlocked one
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That's one unsubstantiated comment. It's not the case.

If you buy an Orange PAYG iPhone you'll get an iPhone locked to Orange.

If you buy an O2 PAYG iPhone you'll get an iPhone locked to O2.

I don't have the enthusiasm to repeat this for the other UK networks
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Old 21-11-2009, 1:26 PM   #24
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By which point you'd be well on your way to spending less money on an officially unlocked one

This is the APPLE iphone we are talking about here UEF. There is no space for sensible, logical or reasoned arguments in this realm.
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I really wouldn't hold my breath for any price drop
Speaking to a bloke today whose an exec with orange
They have sold 65,000 already!
Plenty of corporate contracts out there with vodafone still to go before competition kicks in.
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If you get an O2 Handset on contract you can unlock it at any time. I'm not sure about orange though.
Only after 12 months
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Only after 12 months
That's incorrect, you can do so at any time on O2 contract, but you still have to honour the remaining term of the contract. So you could request the unlock on day one if you wish.

PAYG is after 12 months.
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That's incorrect, you can do so at any time on O2 contract, but you still have to honour the remaining term of the contract. So you could request the unlock on day one if you wish.

PAYG is after 12 months.
Correct, but as per the title this thread relates to pay as you go
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Correct, but as per the title this thread relates to pay as you go
Then don't quote somebody referring to contract as the quote clearly says and tell them they are incorrect.
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Then don't quote somebody referring to contract as the quote clearly says and tell them they are incorrect.
Sorry my mistake
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