[scorpchris19]

I bought a PAYG O2 phone two months ago. I've JB and unlocked the phone.

I'm not happy with O2 network and would like to change it to Orange. My question is:

Can I put in a Orange PAYG iphone sim card and restore the phone in itune?

If this can be done:

1) is this iphone now officially locked to 'Orange' network?

2) i'll have to ask Orange to unlock it 12 months later? or

3) is it still locked to 'O2' and I have to ask O2 to unlock it 12 months later?

I know I can just use the phone with Orange sim card cos it's JB/unlocked, but would prefer it to be 'officially' Orange so that I do not have to worry about not able to unlock with future updates.

[chelsea.tone]

Originally Posted by scorpchris19

I bought a PAYG O2 phone two months ago. I've JB and unlocked the phone.

I'm not happy with O2 network and would like to change it to Orange. My question is:

Can I put in a Orange PAYG iphone sim card and restore the phone in itune?

If this can be done:

1) is this iphone now officially locked to 'Orange' network?


No
2) i'll have to ask Orange to unlock it 12 months later? or

Nothing to do with orange as its an o2 iPhone

3) is it still locked to 'O2' and I have to ask O2 to unlock it 12 months later?



I know I can just use the phone with Orange sim card cos it's JB/unlocked, but would prefer it to be 'officially' Orange so that I do not have to worry about not able to unlock with future updates.

If you restore, you will lose the JB and unlock. You can use an orange sim, but any restore will wipe it.

[scorpchris19]

Thank you for your feedback. I'll use the orange sim card in my present O2 JB/unlocked phone, and will have it officially unlocked by O2 ten months later.

[chelsea.tone]

Best and only way m8. Be a new iphone by then tho

[scorpchris19]

Further to my original post, i find this from another thread - it seems maka344 has got his O2 iphone locked to Orange when he has the Orange sim in the phone when doing the updates on itunes.

So if that's the case can I jolly well say

1) I can convert a locked O2 phone to a locked Orange phone and stay locked to Orange?

2) I can treat the phone as though it's brand new from Orange and have them officially unlock it 12 months later?

Please correct me if I'm wrong. Thanks!

Originally Posted by maka344

I can’t believe what has just happened!

Originally Posted by maka344

I am now factory locked on another carrier!

My girlfriends 3G has been locked to O2 from out of the box since new but JB and unlocked by Dev team software, was on 3.0. I updated to 3.1.2 via iTunes.

When the phone switched back on it activated in iTunes and downloaded a carrier update, as Orange UK are about to start selling iPhones from next week I believe my girlfriends iPhone is now factory locked to Orange UK as I got full reception and haven’t even ran BlackRa1n or sn0w as of yet! Just tried an O2 sim and now states invalid sim inserted!

Now I’m only going to jailbreak and not apply the unlock. My theory is Apple are going to ship O2 devices and simply change the lock status within iTunes on first activation!

Anyway I can prove this?

I will try my 3GS as i'm on 3.1 JB and soft unlocked also on Orange UK pay monthly. Can anyone else try this?

Originally Posted by maka344

UPDATE!

Originally Posted by maka344

Just did the same on my 3GS and it is now factory locked to Orange rather than O2"

Please try this and let me know!

[chelsea.tone]

Try it then

[maka344]

Originally Posted by scorpchris19

Further to my original post, i find this from another thread - it seems maka344 has got his O2 iphone locked to Orange when he has the Orange sim in the phone when doing the updates on itunes.

So if that's the case can I jolly well say

1) I can convert a locked O2 phone to a locked Orange phone and stay locked to Orange?

2) I can treat the phone as though it's brand new from Orange and have them officially unlock it 12 months later?

Please correct me if I'm wrong. Thanks!

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I can confirm that my 3GS and my girlfriends 3G were originally purchased from O2 meaning both fully locked to O2.

Last week while upgrading from 3.0/3.1 to 3.2.1 I left both Orange sim cards in both iPhones with the assumption that I’ll unlock with Blackra1n anyway.

I restored and connected to iTunes and noticed the 3G was showing “Activated” without yet running Blackra1n at all. Then iTunes downloaded a carrier update for Orange UK and worked as normal.

Tested the exact same procedure on my 3GS and again it did the exact same.

As a result we are both locked to Orange and O2. I have done some more testing and it appears that we can now use Orange UK and O2.

When I put an O2 sim card in, I have to connect to iTunes if that sim card hasn’t been used in the phone previously. It will then activate and work as normal. When I then put my Orange sim card back in, it just work without the need for iTunes and the same for that O2 sim card.

[scorpchris19]

Thank you maka344 for your confirmation.

Originally Posted by maka344

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I can confirm that my 3GS and my girlfriends 3G were originally purchased from O2 meaning both fully locked to O2.

Last week while upgrading from 3.0/3.1 to 3.2.1 I left both Orange sim cards in both iPhones with the assumption that I’ll unlock with Blackra1n anyway.

I restored and connected to iTunes and noticed the 3G was showing “Activated” without yet running Blackra1n at all. Then iTunes downloaded a carrier update for Orange UK and worked as normal.

Tested the exact same procedure on my 3GS and again it did the exact same.

As a result we are both locked to Orange and O2. I have done some more testing and it appears that we can now use Orange UK and O2.

When I put an O2 sim card in, I have to connect to iTunes if that sim card hasn’t been used in the phone previously. It will then activate and work as normal. When I then put my Orange sim card back in, it just work without the need for iTunes and the same for that O2 sim card.

[m.r.davies]

Sounds ace, so just to confirm, leave my orange sim card in, and simply download an update via iTunes?

Would be good to hear a few more people say that this has worked for them as I'm very cautious

[chimpton]

has anyone else managed to do this without contacting O2 first?

[premaru]

I tried this, did not work for me. got a message that this sim card is not supported.

[chelsea.tone]

Think some ppl are full of it Chris

[pez_555]

LOL this thread is full of lies.

[m.r.davies]

Originally Posted by pez_555

LOL this thread is full of lies.

would the OP please comment on this

[StevieDvd]

The lock settings are held on the apple database, when you connect via itunes it can check what carrier, if any, the phone is locked to.

You will either be locked to O2, Orange or unlocked. Swapping the sim whilst connected to itunes will force a re-scan of the database - which is why the recent O2 unlocks instruct the user to put another sim in.

I guess there is room for human error when the apple staff sell a phone in the shop that they register it to the wrong carrier or as unlocked.

But the idea of an O2/Orange iphone re-locking to another Orange/O2 sim automatically beggars belief.

[chimpton]

thanks for clarification