[Br0ken]

Firstly this is not a discussion about how to do such a thing or where to get illegally obtained apps for the iPhone.

There are benefits to jailbreaking I agree on that point.

But regardless of the primary reason for jailbreaking I'm curious about the number of people who have installed apps illegally? A simple yes or no answer.

To be clear, an illegal app is one that you would normally have to pay for and download via the iTunes App Store. (Cydia apps aren't the same).

The poll is secret, you name won't be shown.

[No1Joker]

you missed the obvious option guv.

Download a "free version"

Decide i like the $5.99 Game

Then go and buy it and get the updates

Its wot i prefer and i believe its the choice of most crackers.

[oasismark]

I didnt know you could get illegal apps!

[mr.manchester]

Nope, never have, Infact lastnight I paid £37.99 for navigon.

[RobM]

For the same of absolute clarity... anybody discussing methods of obtaining illegal, hacked, cracked or any other such type of software or warez will be put on the naughty step.

Keep it clean, folks

[Br0ken]

Originally Posted by No1Joker

you missed the obvious option guv.

Download a "free version"

Decide i like the $5.99 Game

Then go and buy it and get the updates

Its wot i prefer and i believe its the choice of most crackers.

I did think of that but I concluded with the though, whats to stop the person from just downloading the new version illegally again.

Originally Posted by oasismark

I didnt know you could get illegal apps!

Yep you can

Originally Posted by mr.manchester

Nope, never have, Infact lastnight I paid £37.99 for navigon.

Yeah thats cool, I was reading your comments a little whlie ago

[No1Joker]

Originally Posted by mr.manchester

Nope, never have, Infact lastnight I paid £37.99 for navigon.

i'll bet that £38 TOMTOM will be a million times better. I'd never get the first App release. look at how much better the latest games are than the first ones.

Originally Posted by Br0ken

I did think of that but I concluded with the though, whats to stop the person from just downloading the new version illegally again.

You've missed the community sentiment thats involved. Developers found the hack and they will know the developers that create the Apps. I don't think the crackers anticipate you filling your springboard with Apps without paying for the developers time and effort and knowledge.
The main reason the process isn't discussed is because its theft any way you cut it.

People say "the lite versions are available" which is generally true for games. But 'Things', 'Trains' and 'London Tube' (escpecialy when it was expensive) didn't have that option. Plus there is no refund option like the Make me Rich bloke enjoyed.

[kempez]

I always download them officially, usually after trying the Lite versions, alrthough not always. I have to say though, some apps like the Train Times one are ridiculously overpriced (£4.99), and they should rethink their pricing.

[Br0ken]

Originally Posted by No1Joker

You've missed the community sentiment thats involved. Developers found the hack and they will know the developers that create the Apps.
What do you mean? I'm a developer, I have a relatively successful iPhone app, the developers who worked out how to crack official apps don't know me?!

I don't think the crackers anticipate you filling your springboard with Apps without paying for the developers time and effort and knowledge.
You're kidding right? The whole point of software cracking is to avoid paying for anything in the first place.

The main reason the process isn't discussed is because its theft any way you cut it.
Rob and I both have said no discussing the process in this thread, sorry don't follow what you mean to say there?

People say "the lite versions are available" which is generally true for games. But 'Things', 'Trains' and 'London Tube' (escpecialy when it was expensive) didn't have that option. Plus there is no refund option like the Make me Rich bloke enjoyed.
I absolutely agree that Apple need a try-before-you mechanic because when there are 10 versions of a twitter app that cost from 59p-£4 what are you supposed to do? Other than going by reviews you don't have much of an option.

Replies inline. (just to add I know things can be read in a wrong way on forums so just so its clear my replies arent intended to be mean, just having a chat with you mate. )

[Br0ken]

Originally Posted by kempez

I always download them officially, usually after trying the Lite versions, alrthough not always. I have to say though, some apps like the Train Times one are ridiculously overpriced (£4.99), and they should rethink their pricing.

I'm not familiar with that app but you're right, some apps are overpriced, but at the same time some apps are way underpriced too.

[Gary D]

I'm not entering this debate as arguments will abound and it will soon find itself locked.

My most used apps are

• Radio Times
• News Stand
• Peggle
• Twittelator
• Fake Calls
• National Rail
• Real Racing
• Real Football 2009

All of the above are purchased apps that i use almost everyday. although i have used "Long John Silver" apps in the past.


G

[leeb-1977]

i used to use Realfootball 2009 but now i find that x2 football is a MUCH better game and well worth the £4 thats charged for it.

[Tom`]

I would definitely consider it for the more expensive and over-priced apps.

[y2k]

The poll results are private so lets be honest when voting people .

[mr.manchester]

Originally Posted by No1Joker

i'll bet that £38 TOMTOM will be a million times better. I'd never get the first App release. look at how much better the latest games are than the first ones.

Navigon cost me £27.99, my mistake!

Tomtom wont be £38 plus whatever the tomtom cost the cradle is another £19.99 and I already have a tomtom

[DJACID]

my mate has done this but it was only for one app,
the PDF reader which apple banned,

i buy unwanted itunes vouchers,
which has saved me alot of money,
bought 2 x £50 for £65 the other day,

and the argos deal,

[No1Joker]

Originally Posted by Br0ken

Replies inline. (just to add I know things can be read in a wrong way on forums so just so its clear my replies arent intended to be mean, just having a chat with you mate. )

lol, i'm not going to fly off the handle because you disagree with me

You read them pretty right...
just adding my opinion on the the thread really. I've read article from people who give details how to crack, but equally say they know the people who develop the Apps and emplore users to trial and then purchase if they like a product. (I'm not saying there is a big hotel in Milton Keynes and you all get together and have a shin-dig!)

I'm saying the people with the knowledge to write often have(or know someone with) the knowledge to crack.

Re: "the theft bit", honestly you could write this in every post and people will still ask questions about the process. Just adding why i agree it shouldn't be commonplace to talk about it.

The review/blubs alongside the apps are wowful. I wonder if Apple could create an "online iPhone" which would show a controlled trial of the app rather than the 4 screenshots which show nothing.

[Br0ken]

Originally Posted by DJACID

my mate has done this but it was only for one app,
the PDF reader which apple banned,

i buy unwanted itunes vouchers,
which has saved me alot of money,
bought 2 x £50 for £65 the other day,

and the argos deal,

I suppose they don't want a PDF reader because they want to force people to use their own Apple Bookstore, kinda lame of them! But that reader wouldn't be a paid app even if it was allowed so doesn't really count. We're talking about paid apps that are downloaded and used illegally.

Originally Posted by No1Joker

lol, i'm not going to fly off the handle because you disagree with me

Glad to hear that! By the way there is a way to get a refund, but I think you have to actually phone them...the cost to call will probably be more than the cost of the app lol



Over 160 views and less than 15 votes, Perhaps my curiosity was never going to be satisfied from the beginning.

[No1Joker]

Originally Posted by Br0ken

Over 160 views and less than 15 votes, Perhaps my curiosity was never going to be satisfied from the beginning.

But i've probably been back and forth 20 times!, don't know if its unique viists

[wormvortex]

what are these illegal apps people are on about. I'm not asking where to get them or anything, just curious as to what you mean by illegal?

[oasismark]

LOL! How about another option..

3. Thanks for telling me about illegal apps!

[chelsea.tone]

Well, if JB'ing isn't included then no i haven't downloaded illegal apps, nor would i.

[RobM]

Originally Posted by wormvortex

what are these illegal apps people are on about. I'm not asking where to get them or anything, just curious as to what you mean by illegal?

Anything you should normally pay for, but have found a way of avoiding having to pay. Warez, effectively.

I don't considering Jailbreaking per-se to be theft as the developers have created their software for the Jailbreak community and make it very clear where cost is involved, with the majority being free.

[oasismark]

Hasn't installing illegal apps been blocked in 3.0?

[Saldawop]

Originally Posted by oasismark

Hasn't installing illegal apps been blocked in 3.0?

No it hasn't

[Steven]

Originally Posted by RobM83

For the same of absolute clarity... anybody discussing methods of obtaining illegal, hacked, cracked or any other such type of software or warez will be put on the naughty step.

Keep it clean, folks

One member now has some time off for encouraging piracy - after being warned previously within the last week. Further moderator intervention will necessitate the closure of this thread which is a shame as the majority of members can abide by the rules

[Jase Winter]

I was aware that you could do this with a jailbroken phone and infact I have a mate that has, as for myself, the apps I download are usually free or not all that expensive anyway so it doesn't appeal to me. I've also paid for apps from cydia.

[ROBIN50N]

a bit ot, but it was mentioned.the best try before you buy system ive used, is android market. if you uninstall within 24hrs you dont get charged. nice and simple.

[Spooky]

Pressed the wrong button, only buy Legal apps but pressed wrong button. Was genuinely surprised you could get illegal apps personally.

[wynnwillo212]

i dont pay for apps as they are far over priced so i just jailbroke my iphone and just download app when i want for free other wise it would cost a fortune