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Old 29-08-2002, 9:46 AM   #31
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Why can't we just address DMDs, LCDs and Plasma digitally, they are all 'panel' based devices working on a matrix arrangement. DVI? It makes much more sense
 
Old 03-09-2002, 11:29 AM   #32
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Nothing to do with this subject but you all seem to know your stuff.

I have a JVC AV32T25 that accepts NTSC playback. I was about to buy a sony DVD DVPNS700 which according to Richer sounds has NTSC playback compatability. He then told me he does not think it has a decoder in to convert the picture from black and white to colour and thus I would be watching black and white picture on my TV. Does that mean I cannot use region one DVD's from the states on my Setup. Should I opt for a different DVD player as I have not yet bought it? I was under the impression if it has NTSC playback there should be any other inssues about whether it has a separated decoder to convert to colour.
PS shoul I hook up my DVD to the TV using The RGB scart or the S video???

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Old 03-09-2002, 11:43 AM   #33
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I have a JVC AV32T25 that accepts NTSC playback. I was about to buy a sony DVD DVPNS700 which according to Richer sounds has NTSC playback compatability. He then told me he does not think it has a decoder in to convert the picture from black and white to colour and thus I would be watching black and white picture on my TV.
Richer Sounds do it again

The DVP range output NTSC just fine - ignore that dumb sales assistant.
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PS shoul I hook up my DVD to the TV using The RGB scart or the S video???
You may find the RGB picture too dark on the JVC. Try RGB first, then if it is too dark go for S-Video.
 
Old 04-09-2002, 9:22 AM   #34
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Do I need a normal scart or a dead expensive RGB scart?
 
Old 06-09-2002, 8:28 AM   #35
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I have a DVPNS700 modded by Techtronics and I watched Monsters Inc R1 last night so mine can do NTSC fine.

For a scart lead I would go for a half decent Ixos one, maybe around £20. You don't want to buy a massively expensive lead when the rest of your kit doesn't justify it (no offence like, I have a similar set up). The main problem with cheap leads is that you will get audio and video signals bleeding into each other because of the poor shielding. You may find for example that while watching a DVD, you can see a faint ghost image from the VCR's tuner. A £15-20 lead should get around these problems. I think the Profigold range from Dixons etc. are OK too.

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Old 09-09-2002, 9:05 AM   #36
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Asda are selling nice AR gold plated SCART leads just now for less than £20...
 
Old 18-09-2002, 12:46 PM   #37
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For all you ELLIE owners out there, and I don't care what the technical men say about the standards, get yourself RGBH SCART to 4 BNC, turn down the Colour Saturation and WOW!
That's a hum-dinger! Far, far better Colour depth than Component.
If you can't get the cable or your unable to wire the SCART, ScreensUK can source you an adapter to convert from the Component cables.
You'll also need an extra RCA to BNC cable to go from Source to Projector for the Horizontal sync!

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Old 24-09-2002, 7:13 PM   #38
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QED SQART AV4130 RGB Scart lead

Got the above scart today from Hificables.co.uk so I can watch DVDs in RGB mode. When I set my DVD player's menu to "RGB" from the 3 options of RGB, S-Video and Video the colour goes a yellowy colour and the picture flickers on and off. However when i select "Video" the picture is fine again and rather impressive too. The box for the Scart says it's an RGB only scart so if I'm getting a good picture when the DVD player is set to "Video" does that mean it is indeed an RGB picture?
DVD Player - Sony DVP-NS900V
TV - Toshiba 43PJ93 Rear Projection (Scart socket 1 is RGB capable and I know it works because I used my Sky Digibox in RGB mode with it)
 
Old 25-09-2002, 9:59 AM   #39
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No you were conned
 
Old 25-09-2002, 10:45 PM   #40
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It appears the scart cable is faulty so it kinda explains the problems I was getting

Apologies for the confusion
 
Old 15-10-2002, 9:46 PM   #41
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Could someone help me, it's only a quickie so I didn't want to start a new thread.
I own the rather old Pioneer 515 DVD player.
My first question is which is the best way to connect it to my new Yamaha RXV430RDS Receiver ?
My second question is which is the best way to get the picture to my newly ordered Toshiba Plasma, I am on the verge of buying a John Sims RGB to Plasma convertor but didn't know whether this would be worth while as my 515 does not ouput RGB or Component ?

I have included the inputs/outputs for each below, many thanks in anticipation.

Pioneer 515 ;
1 Component Video Output (Y, CB, CR)
1 S-Video Output
1 Video Output
2 Audio Outputs
1 Coaxial Digital Output
1 Optical Digital Output.

Yamaha RXV430RDS ;
3 x video inputs (with composite video and stereo audio),
1 x video loop (with composite video and stereo audio),
composite monitor output,
Audio inputs: Additional line input (CD), tape loop, coaxial digital, optical digital, six channel input.

Thanks again, Foxy ......
 
Old 25-11-2002, 12:02 PM   #42
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Hi foxmeister,

Best way, and I will argue with anyone about this!!! (open ended statement!!), to conect your dvd player to your plasma is with component leads, good quality digital phone and bnc connectors.

I have never been able to see the differerence between RGB and component that is until it is put through a converter box. You have a perfectly good signal, designed specifically for high quality displays coming through your component outputs.

RGB output on your player would have to come from a scart lead socket, and would anyone like to voice there opinion on them?!!

Save your money on the converter box and put it towards some better quality cables.

Best way to get sound from your dvds into the speakers is to let your Yamaha processor do ALL of the work. This means allowing it to take the signal, unprocessed from the player, the only way to do this is by using a good quality 'digital' co-ax lead. (DO NOT USE TOSLINK, the signal is converted into light and then converted back to digits, who could argue that no conversion is not better then 2 conversions!!!) Chord 'prodac' is the best lead on the market for conecting dvd to processor.

Ready for the arguments - Blue touch paper has been lit and I am now standing back!!!!!!
 
Old 03-12-2002, 3:41 PM   #43
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I need help too!!!

I'm not sure if this has been mentioned yet. I got a little bogged down in the technical side of the thread. Personally I don't care too much about quality as long as it's better that VHS or regular TV.

Anyway, I have a problem that's really pee-ing me off and I hope I can get a simple, cheap answer. I have a Tosh 220e and everything was fine until recently when I tried to play Crouching Tiger and then Battle Royale (both region 2).

I was using RGB (the player has the option of video - nae bad, SVideo - black & white and RGB - best). When this was on RGB it was as if the screen had a pink cover over it which was very visible with white. So I changed to Video, and it was fine. Last night I tried LotR, region 1, disc 3 and I had the choice of RGB pink, very pink, or Video black and white. SVideo was nuts all together. I haven't yet tried the other DVDs I was watching in RGB.

Please tell me I can fix this with button bashing. My scart cost €2-50 so it may well be that. My TV is Sanyo, fairly poor but I won't be getting a new one any time soon. Or is it a compatibility problem between my TV and region 1? Which means I have a multiregion player but can't play other regions.

Any help would be much appreciated, thanks in advance...
 
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It's your tv. It's not NTSC compatible (the US format that region 1 disks need to be played on). Your tv will only have PAL
 
Old 03-12-2002, 8:28 PM   #45
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Delorian,

If your player has the option to output PAL60 rather than pure NTSC, try that.
 
Old 11-12-2002, 1:02 PM   #46
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I have the following questions and don’t know where to get answer, hope that some of you who read this thread can help me out. Thanks in advance.

My dvd player has component out with green, red, blue (RCA connectors) and my pj has something call 5BNC (R/R-Y/PR, G/Y, B/B-Y/PB, SYNC/HD, VD) input connector and a digital RGB input connector (DFP 20-pin, TMDS – whatever it means).

1. as Nic mentioned in the original post that it’s better to use all 5 BNC connections, so is it possible to get a cable with 3 RCA to 5 BNC without converter? Where can I get this?

2. the component cable that I ordered doesn’t have BNC connector so the shop sell me a set of RCA-BNC adapter, would it affect PQ? Or should I asked then to change the cable to BNC instead of using adapter?

3. what is the RGB connector? are they the same as the one used for computer? But the connector looks different. How to use this connection when my DVD player doesn’t have this putput?

4. Is RGB better to component in this case?

5. What is a component cable? Is it coaxial or just normal cable? I was in a Hifi shop (not a supermarket) and asking for a digital coaxial cable, the salesman gave me a normal stereo cable (the red and white cable) and told me that there are the same, just use either one (red or white) is okay, I didn't believe him and didn't buy it, but is he correct?

6. What is the different between digital coaxial cable and the normal 75ohms TV cables?

Thank you very much for your help.
 
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Nick, i notice you said that 'Component Cables' can be had quite cheap, where exactly can I get a CHEAP Cable from?
Or, could I make my OWN-if so,How?
Cheers
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Nick, i notice you said that 'Component Cables' can be had quite cheap, where exactly can I get a CHEAP Cable from?
Or, could I make my OWN-if so,How?

Hi

Nic doesn“t visit the Forums anymore but he mentioned using RG59 coaxial cable in one of his posts a while back.
 
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or RG6 or any decent CT100 sat cable will do. It is what all the professionals use.
 
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I'm a little Confused Now,after hearing your replies. I thought a Component Cable was a 3Phono Cable? I want to use it from a dvd player to a front-projector.
Thanks for your replies-excuse my ignorance on this matter!
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Component is three leads. You need three runs of RG6, RG59 etc from your DVD to projector. These can be bundled together in one outer or three separate wires. For well screened, 75 ohm cables the differences should be virtually non existent.
 
Old 16-12-2002, 4:23 PM   #52
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got You Loud & Clear-Beekeeper! Thanks alot, Help most appreciated.
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I'm glad I spotted this as I was very confused, previously thinking that component, composite and a 'phono' connection were the same thing

However, much of my confusion was due to the fact that my Pj doesn't have component connections (only video, s-video and HD15 - tried the HCPC route and had to give up ).

So am I right in thinking s-video is my next best option (over video)? And using an s-video lead should I set the player to RGB or s-video?

Sorry if these are silly questions but this is all new to me and a lot to take in
 
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Going by what you say-I would connect the Dvd to Pj via the SVIDEO(svideo to svideo lead). You havent mentioned what dvd player you have so, I would go to the Menu and select the VIDEO OUT to' SVideo'. I also run a Scart to Scart(Dvd-TV) for RGB compatibility.Obviously selecting RGB on Dvd and RGB on TV.
Hope this is of help to you!
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Thanks Mike, that's how I now have its etup. However, I also just found out that my Pioneer 444 doesn't actually have true progressive scan so I'm thinking I may give HCPC another go.

Wish me luck...I'll need it
 
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OK Goof! "GOOD LUCK! Have a Nice Night,give it a go 2morrow if I was you

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Actually, component video is not really an American system and RGb a European system - it's just that the Americans adopted component video on domestic equipment before Europe did.

Component video is a derivative of RGB where Y = 0.59G + 0.30R + 0.11B for Eupean PAL. U (Pb) = B-Y, V(Pr) = R-Y. The reason for component video being used is that most video images have little blue in them and by using RGB, the blue signal could be swamped in noise, component video overcomes this problem which is why it is in great general use by the broadcast industry worlwide.

In short, there is an advantage of component video over RGB only in the slight reduction of chroma noise in saturated blue and red images, there is no resolution enhancement.
 
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Sorry no answers from me I'm the newbie...... however I would be gratfull if u guys cud ava look and reply to my query about "DVD Format Wars"
 
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RGB connection dilema

FOR NICK

Having read your post I would like to ask your advice. I have the following - Seleco svp350 plus, Panasonic DSB30 digibox, pioneer dv454 dvd player, Yamaha DSPAZ1 amp and will be investing in one of the philips models of DVD recorders. The dvd, digibox, philips recorder are all RGB capable via scart. My amp takes three inputs via rgb rca's and gives one output rgb rca which I want to connect to my projector via the bnc inputs. The dilema is that there is only the three primary colours being fed to and from my amp with no h/v sync. The projector has the five bnc inputs. Can you suggest a way of connection even if it is purchasing such an item as a syncblaster?
 
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Question 32PW9617 to Tosh 220-e

Currently contemplating buying phillips 32pW9617 and connecting to my Tosh 220-e. Tosh outputs include scart, s video, component, while phillips takes scart and s video.

At the moment I have no connectors and would rather avoid buying more than one just to see which is the best quality.

SCART seems the easiest, but component suggested by some as purer. But to connect component into SCART I would need a conversion plug. ?would this degrade the signal or should I just use s video or scart cables??

Amp is an ancient sony prologic, but TV has dolby digital according to the pamphlet.

Damos

(a very new newbie. Post number 1)
 
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