[jammedherbs]

Hi,

I've read various forum posts about discarding the standard 2Gb Micro-SD card that comes with the phone, and replacing it with a larger, faster Class 6 type card.

My question is, how do you put Apps onto the SD card, and run them from there ?

Cheers,
Jamie

[wiganite]

Originally Posted by jammedherbs

Hi,

I've read various forum posts about discarding the standard 2Gb Micro-SD card that comes with the phone, and replacing it with a larger, faster Class 6 type card.

My question is, how do you put Apps onto the SD card, and run them from there ?

Cheers,
Jamie

Think you need to have a rooted phone. The modaco Rom has app2sd ready installed, so you just have to partition the card a certain way and it automatically does it.

[djdhrubs]

I just wanted to confirm something related to the above. I installed the modaco ROM last week after rooting my phone. I've now bought a new 8GB micro SD card. So i should already have apps2sd on the new ROM.

So then all I need to do is stick the new sd card into the phone, and then follow the instructions on how to partition the sd card, right? I don't have to re-install anything else or download anything else at all? what's confusing me is all this stuff about needing a recovery image and android SDK. Do I need to download these first? If so, do I download directly onto my sd card, like I did when I rooted my phone?

The other thing that's confusing me is formatting the sd card. Is this something else that needs doing? Or is this just a part of partitioning the sd card?

Sorry to be such a newbie, but I think I've read instructions from one too many sites and I've gotten myself confused!

[wiganite]

Originally Posted by djdhrubs

I just wanted to confirm something related to the above. I installed the modaco ROM last week after rooting my phone. I've now bought a new 8GB micro SD card. So i should already have apps2sd on the new ROM.

So then all I need to do is stick the new sd card into the phone, and then follow the instructions on how to partition the sd card, right? I don't have to re-install anything else or download anything else at all? what's confusing me is all this stuff about needing a recovery image and android SDK. Do I need to download these first? If so, do I download directly onto my sd card, like I did when I rooted my phone?

The other thing that's confusing me is formatting the sd card. Is this something else that needs doing? Or is this just a part of partitioning the sd card?

Sorry to be such a newbie, but I think I've read instructions from one too many sites and I've gotten myself confused!

I've not actually done it to my phone as I've still got plenty of space left on my phone and it seemed pretty complex.

From what i can gather you need to partition the card, which you can do on your computer using partition software or using your phone. This is quite a good guide How to manually partition your SD card for Android Apps2SD – Android and Me

The partitions must be created in this order: fat32, ext2, linux-swap. Then once you've done this, when you reboot app2sd automatically copies all your apps to the card. Don't think you need to format as it should do this when it creates the partitions.

[djdhrubs]

thanks. i've found a couple of guides/ walkthrough videos where i can do it on my phone. but i'm not sure about exactly what i need before i even start the partitioning process.

on the list of requirements needed before you start, it lists a 'cyanogen recovery image' which seems pretty easy to get hold of. i'll just do exactly what i did before when rooting my phone.

it then lists 'android device bridge' which 'comes with android sdk'.

that's what i'm having trouble understanding. i've clicked on the link and downloaded it onto my desktop pc. specifically, a folder called android-sdk-windows-1.1_r1. i've noticed that somewhere within this, there is the android adb usb driver. i hope this is the correct thing! then do i just connect my phone to the pc via usb and 'drag and drop' the android sdk folder into my sd card? or do i need to extract a particular file within android sdk, then copy it into the sd card?

after i find out exactly what to do with this android sdk thing, then i should be good to go with the actual process of partitioning my sd card. but i'm stuck on what to do before i even start this! cheers.

[djdhrubs]

just to clarify, i want to partition the sd card using my phone, not my desktop pc/ windows through partition manager.

have i chosen the correct android adb driver to download? and then how do i install it onto my htc hero? its these early stages that i'm having trouble with understanding.

[Merago]

Originally Posted by djdhrubs

just to clarify, i want to partition the sd card using my phone, not my desktop pc/ windows through partition manager.

have i chosen the correct android adb driver to download? and then how do i install it onto my htc hero? its these early stages that i'm having trouble with understanding.

I could be wrong, but I don't think you can partition the SDCard without a PC. I'll have a nose around though, hang on, and I'll see what I can dig up. I think the Android SDK thing is for using adb from a PC. Certainly I had it installed and used it to run adb from my PC and partition my SDCard.

EDIT- OK, it looks like it is possible, but you'll need to download and install the Better Terminal Emulator software and then following these instructions (which I'm guessing you've already found)- http://androidcommunity.com/forums/v...&catid=2&id=39. Honestly, it's just as simple to use a desktop PC if you have access to one already, it'll probably be quicker and more accurate than using the soft keyboard on the phone too.

[djdhrubs]

oh i see, no i didn't know that! i thought you could do it entirely on the phone. there's a video on you tube by someone called emogamer that demonstrates the whole process on a HTC G1. just go to you tube and search for 'how to partition sd card'.

but by the way, how do you install the adb driver onto the Hero? just drag and drop? and which driver should i choose? the windows one or the linux one? still very confused!

[wiganite]

Originally Posted by djdhrubs

oh i see, no i didn't know that! i thought you could do it entirely on the phone. there's a video on you tube by someone called emogamer that demonstrates the whole process on a HTC G1. just go to you tube and search for 'how to partition sd card'.

but by the way, how do you install the adb driver onto the Hero? just drag and drop? and which driver should i choose? the windows one or the linux one? still very confused!

Pretty sure that if you are going to partition the card using your pc then you don't need the adb drivers.

Think the easiest way to do it is to download gparted live cd, which basically runs Linux off the cd. Use this to partition the card. Then as long as you are running the modaco Rom when you reboot the phone it automatically copies your apps to the card.

Let me know if you get it sorted and if you think its worth the effort.

[djdhrubs]

I've opened a thread on the Android and me forum about this. I've just received advice there telling me the exact opposite of what you've just said. That its only if i wanna partition the card using my pc that I need the adb driver! Now I'm totally confused. All I wanna do is exactly what the chap in the YouTube video does. But if I boot the phone to the recovery page I dont get the option to go to a control screen where I can use the gparted commands to manually partition the sd card.

[Merago]

Originally Posted by djdhrubs

oh i see, no i didn't know that! i thought you could do it entirely on the phone. there's a video on you tube by someone called emogamer that demonstrates the whole process on a HTC G1. just go to you tube and search for 'how to partition sd card'.

As I said, apparently you can do it all on the phone, but you need to use the Better Terminal thing to enable your keyboard or you won't be able to enter anything in the terminal apparently. (don't know, I've never tried it myself).
You don't install the adb thing on your Hero I don't think (again, I used adb from my PC, so I've no idea on the method straight from the phone).
Honestly, I think that using your PC would be much simpler - the GParted suggestion that wiganite had would work fine too. I'm pretty sure that Partition Magic and the like can do it too.

[wiganite]

Ha ha...this is like the blind leading the blind!!

Might have a go tonight, if I do I'll write a step by step guide.

[djdhrubs]

Thank you. Before you do, please check out the youtube video i'm talking about:-

YouTube - EASY How to Partition Your Micro SD Card using your G1!!!

It seems so simple! But when i boot up the secovery image, there is no last option called console, as shown on his video.

[Merago]

That's a guide for the HTC Magic, not the Hero. As I said, even if you work out how to get in to the console, with you not having a hardware keyboard with the Hero, you'll need to download the Better Emulator thing so that you have a keyboard that will work. Is there a reason you want to use the phone itself rather than a PC to format the SDCard?

[djdhrubs]

no reason. so i tried doing it from my pc through the 'android and me' guide you and others have posted before.

i can open up the command prompt for adb, and i can change directory to the one i have the adb drivers on. it seems to recognise the sd card, when i type in 'ls', as instructed on the second link you posted about 'adb for dummies'.

however in the partition guid, at step 1, when it says :-

Command: adb shell reboot recovery (this will reboot your phone into Cyanogen’s recovery image. Or power on phone when holding home button)
Command: adb shell (type this after your phone has booted and on the recovery screen. it should take you to a # prompt)

adb shell doesn't take me to the cyanogen recovery screen, and even if go to the recovery screen manually on the phone, it doesn't show a '#' prompt on the phone. then when i try step 2, it doesn't work either. it gives an error message ending in 'not found'.

i'll try another day i think!

[djdhrubs]

Thanks for your help guys. I've tried to do this through my PC like you guys originally suggested. I've followed the best step-by-step guide I've seen so far for installing the adb driver:-

[GUIDE] ADB, Fastboot, and Nandroid for Noobs - xda-developers

I think the one above is the best I've seen because it deals with what to do should problems occur, such as the PC not recognising the device. I followed the instructions given. Unfortunately I'm still not there. When I connect the phone to the computer via USB, without mounting it, the PC detects the hardware successfully. It flashes 'new hardware found' in the bottom right of my screen, and also flashes 'adb' and 'mass storage device'. However, no link comes up to install the drivers.

So if I then go to control panel, then system, then device manager, it lists 'android USB devices' at the top. If I then go into this and go to 'update driver' and guide the PC to the folder with the adb driver in it, it searches around in this folder, before eventually saying somnething like 'the system cannot find a better match for your hardware than that already installed'.

i can run cmd, then go into adb shell, and reboot the phone by typing 'adb shell reboot recovery' but after that, the next command, where i type 'parted/dev/block/whatever' doesn't work....it says 'not found'.

so I think I'm getting stuck at the stage when i need to actually install the adb driver. can't get the computer to do it despite following the instructions on the link that merago and the one above have listed.

[djdhrubs]

ok i've partitioned my sd card succesfully. but now what happens? i thought apps2sd would automatically work and transfer my apps to the sd card. it hasn't. i've booted my phone a couple of times but still nothing!