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Old 31-01-2009, 3:13 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Indecisive's getting his Groove on (floating wall)

Ok, after falling in love with Grooves floating wall design I have taken the plunge and started to re-create it in my living room.

This thread will be my motivation to keep going and not down tools and leave the project half finished, I also hope it will give others the same motivation to build what I believe to be the best DIY way to display your system on a budget yet look like a professional install.

So far I have built my framework but I will continue to add to the thread as the project progresses.

Below is a basic Google sketch-up of how the room should look and some pics of where I am at the moment.

I am currently unsure on speaker location so if anyone wants to help, a thread on this can be found here

5.1 or 7.1 Speaker location help

Thanks, hope you enjoy

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Current setup



White unpainted part of the wall is where my old Pioneer was once wall mounted

Old Setup



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Re: Indecisive's getting his Groove on (floating wall)

will be watching with interest. what will you viewing distance be to the screen and what size screen do you have, is it 50"
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will be watching with interest. what will you viewing distance be to the screen and what size screen do you have, is it 50"
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Hi Andy, yes its 50" (Panny 50PZ81B) and I will be 9ft from the screen.
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thanks, the reason i ask is your room looks about the same size and shape as mine, you oviously do not find the 50" to big at this distance, am in the market for a new sreen and cannot decide what size to get or where to put it, so pull you finger out and get yours done so i can make my mind up .
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thanks, the reason i ask is your room looks about the same size and shape as mine, you oviously do not find the 50" to big at this distance, am in the market for a new sreen and cannot decide what size to get or where to put it, so pull you finger out and get yours done so i can make my mind up .
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lol, I am, just came back to check on the thread, mdf supporting batons and rope light fitted before sun down (I hope)

No 50" at this distance is not too big, I could quite happily go bigger but didn't want to compromise quality in my budget (if I could afford it I would have a pj at that distance)
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Re: Indecisive's getting his Groove on (floating wall)

Ok, quick update...

All framework is now done and rope lights have been fitted.

Anyone who is planning to buy these rope lights and fit them in this style. Do Do Do buy the strip to fix them to your surface rather than the clips (un like me ) the clips are incredibly awkward to fit and to make things worse the screws are tiny. Also although I have got the rope light fairly straight, the strip would of made a sharper job.

Work so far

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Re: Indecisive's getting his Groove on (floating wall)

that rope light looks good, I got mine from TLC it's one of their new LED lights, but it gives a sort of broken light effect. It's not a consistent ambient light?

what make of rope light is yours??
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that rope light looks good, I got mine from TLC it's one of their new LED lights, but it gives a sort of broken light effect. It's not a consistent ambient light?

what make of rope light is yours??
Thanks......It's also a TLC but I didn't go for the LED style as I will be dimming these and to my knowledge you can't do that with LED's. Also white LED's give a very cold light and I didn't want that type of effect.

These still give a broken light (I think the camera has given them a more even glow) however the light they throw beyond the 5cm lip I will be having is fairly even as you won't be able to see the bulbs.
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Re: Indecisive's getting his Groove on (floating wall)

I'm thinking of using some silver foil on the outside batons to get a greater reflection of the LED's. Think that will help throw a more even a greater light.

If it works I'll post some pictures.
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Oooooh......looking good Indecisive !

Man that brings back memories.....makes me want to do it all over again....its strange , not that difficult to do this, but the result will look a million dollars..Cant wait to see the finished thing.

Have you sorted your cabinets out yet ?
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Oooooh......looking good Indecisive !

Man that brings back memories.....makes me want to do it all over again....its strange , not that difficult to do this, but the result will look a million dollars..Cant wait to see the finished thing.

Have you sorted your cabinets out yet ?
Good evening Grand Master Groove and thank you for your comments, coming from you they mean alot (I bet you love all the respect you have earned)

I wish it was as simple as just making the wall, its everything else that goes with it, because for the wall to work, it has to be in a room that is deserving enough, so the whole room is being re-decorated, skirting upgraded, new carpets, paint, lighting and new curtains etc. Now if you live on your own you can stop there, but I don't (and I'm sure most men can relate to this) so now the other half now wants the rest of the flat done to the same standard (credit crunch or not) when she has decided she wants something, it's best to agree otherwise it's like a child that wants sweets (you either agree or you get the anti-christ).

All I can say is thank god for the sales and failing carpet stores (god they look at you funny in there, it's as if they don't remember what a customer looks like).

No I have not got the cabinets sorted yet, they are next to order. I will also have to take the feet of my amp, can't remember what amp you had, mine is a Denon and will only just fit without feet.

I have to wait a little while now before I can progress with the wall as I can either have the MDF and the carpet delivered for £30 each or hire a van for £20 and collect them both on the same day myself. Carpet is on order though so I need to wait for that to come in stock before I can hire the van and get my MDF that I need so bad .

I'm also unsure as to where to put my rear surrounds (waiting for some help on another thread) so I cant even really get started on the cabling.

Thanks for the inspiration with the wall Groove, I have always wanted something like this, I just didn't know what it was until I saw yours.
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Re: Indecisive's getting his Groove on (floating wall)

Not got anyfurther with the build yet (still waiting for my carpet to come in) so I have spent some time researching and playing around with speaker location ideas and this is what I have come up with......






Side speakers will be approx 2m high and angled down and towards the viewing area

Rears will flush in-wall mounted and be on each side of the main sofa (THX recommend right next to each other but I felt my option would give 2 viewers the chance to receive a stereo output rather then hearing both L + R in 1 viewers left ear and the other viewers right ear {hope that makes sense})

I know its not THX perfect, but with the limited space I just wonder how it would perform? Surely if I tell my amp the distances from the viewing area, the speakers would compensate???

Any opinions?
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Well been a while (been busy at work) but here is an update...

Ok I profiled the edges of the MDF to create a void to fill @ the joins



Then offered the MDF upto the framework to work out where to cut for the bracket





Once I had that sorted I marked where the brackets that fit onto the plasma would go and where the cables would exit the tv and cut them out. Then fixed the MDF to the framework and filled the joins, MDF primed and undercoated.





Once that was all done I moved on to sorting my speakers for the rear in my 7.1 set-up.
I had a slight problem here as the inwalls I purchased were too deep for my wall cavity so I needed to improvise and took an idea from "The Force's little effort" to give me a thicker wall to play with to give form as well as function (I will also be incorporating a large mirror into this...









The cut out for the in wall is also boxed off to reduce sound travel and I have used some dyno-mat to aid



This is the look I am going for



and these are the speakers I will be using



Well I am waiting on the mirror now so that part is on hold for now.

Next step was the ceiling. I wanted to update the look of the living room and light fitting just don't do it for me and I have always wanted halogen downlights but my ceiling cavity was too shallow to fit them so I have decided to build a section that mirrors the floating wall to create the depth I need and thats where I am at now...



should look like this when done (same size and shape as the floating wall, but on the ceiling)




My flat is a construction site..... I have wood and tools everywhere, 2 rolls of carpet, dust in places I didn't know were in the flat and as much as I am am enjoying the transformation I can't wait till it's all over and I can enjoy a very loud movie
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Looking good, that floating celing is going to look good. Thought about putting rope light around there also? Maybe just the screen side though
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Looking good, that floating celing is going to look good. Thought about putting rope light around there also? Maybe just the screen side though
Thanks.. No its not going to be a floating ceiling, just reflect the floating walls size, shape and position.
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