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New House and dedicated Cinema room
Hi
I have been looking at avforums for a long time now and reading through posts on home cinema installs and NOW MY TIME HAS COME!!!! HA HA AH AH HAH A H AH A...... Anyway I have a room 6000 my 6000 that I have set aside to use as my home cinema. Me and my brother in law (electrician) will do most of the work ourselves but if someone could tell me what to use equipment wise I would eternally be grateful. I was hoping to send about 8 - 10 at the most on equipment. I am going to America for the house furniture and I am sure I will get something there. I am also top hating the walls and sound insulating them as well as using sound boards. (I run a Plaster boarding company). As I said before any help is a big help.
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James Bradley
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20-01-2009, 8:55 PM
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Re: New House and dedicated Cinema room
Welcome to the forum. There is all the advice to probably need here. Good Luck and enjoy.
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20-01-2009, 9:19 PM
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Re: New House and dedicated Cinema room
If Top Hat is like resilient bars I would try not to use them. They are great for soundproofing but can sometimes cause acoustic problems by turning the walls into diaphragmic absorbers and you can end up with no bass. Use the stud wall/insulation/double plasterboard method and you should be fine (with 1" gap between old wall and new 4x2 stud).
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20-01-2009, 11:03 PM
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Re: New House and dedicated Cinema room
8 - 10 what?
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20-01-2009, 11:56 PM
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Re: New House and dedicated Cinema room
8000 to 10000 and want the top of the line picture and sound.
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21-01-2009, 12:41 AM
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Re: New House and dedicated Cinema room
James,
I don't want to burst your bubble..but a room 6M.x 6M. are awful dimensions, acoustically speaking..
You will have extreme peaks and dips in your frequency response..and they are very hard to control, even with acoustic treatments..
My recommendations..if it's within your budget..is to build a false wall down one side to narrow the room to maybe 5M. wide..
That will help things considerably..
It only needs be a basic timber frame, covered with you free plasterboard..
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21-01-2009, 9:34 AM
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Re: New House and dedicated Cinema room
I forgot to mention that on one side of the room the room there is a stairwell coming up from downstairs. It will be 1200 wide and probably run 3000 into the room. I was thinking of then run a stud wall all the way to one side which would leave the room 4800 x 6000. What would that come out like?
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21-01-2009, 1:28 PM
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Would that also give you a cupboard to keep your kit in?
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21-01-2009, 2:16 PM
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Yep i was thinking that and from reading Avforums it would have to be a glass door maybe tinted black. What i am afraid of is that i will screw up the surround sound and projector settings. What way can i correctly without professional help?
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22-01-2009, 12:33 AM
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I forgot to mention that on one side of the room the room there is a stairwell coming up from downstairs. It will be 1200 wide and probably run 3000 into the room. I was thinking of then run a stud wall all the way to one side which would leave the room 4800 x 6000. What would that come out like?
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That sounds like it will be OK..
If you can give us a plan drawing of the proposed room area, we can give recommendations for speaker placement etc..
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22-01-2009, 3:46 AM
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8000 to 10000 and want the top of the line picture and sound.
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Υοu can buy some decent gear, but nothing close to "top of the line."
If you want to light a big screen up you'd need some serious horsepower. Cheapest 3-chip DLP projector starts at £23k and a transparent screen with motorised masking should be around £15k.
If you have never built a room-in-a room before, you will need to read a bit in the forums. The floor needs to be suspended too. Any hard contacts should be minimised, and a silencer needs to be designed for your HVAC system. The design would be relevant to the branches, type of fan, rpms, fins etc. It is a bit more complicated from what it seems. You can model very accurately the noise that will reach your seating position from the HVAC opening!
I do not want to put you off; I am only suggesting you spend some more time organising things properly. You can update speakers at a later date. You can't do much with a bad room!
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22-01-2009, 9:37 AM
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Yep i was thinking that and from reading Avforums it would have to be a glass door maybe tinted black. What i am afraid of is that i will screw up the surround sound and projector settings. What way can i correctly without professional help?
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Why a glass door? I would look at putting in a 19" Rack to the space for the kit. As isco suggests £10/€10k isnt going to be top of the line but can be very nice if you went down the fully installed route and budget was just for hardware then its do able
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22-01-2009, 9:53 AM
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Υοu can buy some decent gear, but nothing close to "top of the line."
If you want to light a big screen up you'd need some serious horsepower. Cheapest 3-chip DLP projector starts at £23k and a transparent screen with motorised masking should be around £15k.
If you have never built a room-in-a room before, you will need to read a bit in the forums. The floor needs to be suspended too. Any hard contacts should be minimised, and a silencer needs to be designed for your HVAC system. The design would be relevant to the branches, type of fan, rpms, fins etc. It is a bit more complicated from what it seems. You can model very accurately the noise that will reach your seating position from the HVAC opening!
I do not want to put you off; I am only suggesting you spend some more time organising things properly. You can update speakers at a later date. You can't do much with a bad room! 
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23k for projector and 15k for screen boy was i off the mark. Anyway small question what is and why a transparent screen with motorised masking?
what ratio of money would you send on display to sound 70/30?
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22-01-2009, 10:09 AM
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We do a couple of cheaper 3 chip projectors, but not much if you want 1080!
As far as your ratio, I tend to go more towards 50/50, I think that many people consider sound as a second priority and this is wrong in my view. Your budget is OK, for 10k you can get a very special room.
Where are you based?
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22-01-2009, 10:54 AM
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Re: New House and dedicated Cinema room
north of Ireland and i was looking at a 3 chip projectors i seen one for 8000. It wouldn't be feasible to come from England to install my home cinema system would it?
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