(another) wall mount with pics

[itsmeeddie]

Hi guys,
I know before evrybody reads this its been posted a thousand times but I still can't really get my head round this.

Attachched are 3 photos of mine & my gf's 1st new home.
We move on December 10th.
its been a long time in the waiting!
Barrats have been great, and through lots of changes moved plugs etc so I can mount my tv on the long wall.
Now, I know that its a solid breeze block wall, and Ive been told its plaster board (DOB & DAB?) giving me roughly 3inches to hide cable behind.
Now, when I mount my lcd, (37" samsung) should I be buying bolts that will go through the plaster board straight into the breeze block wall? Surely the most secure mounting? Or should I be finding wood to mount into?
Please see attached photos of our front room.

Sorry again for ANOTHER wall mounting plasterboard post, but its starting to worry me as I just want it all perfect for when we move in!

Pics attached:
(1st is breeze block 4 weeks ago)
(2nd is wall with no sockets in place)
(3rd is wall with all sockets in place)





thanks for all your help, any advise grately appreciated

[itsmeeddie]

12 hours 100+ views and no replies?? lol

[paulw77]

If it's dot and dab surely there won't be any wood to attach the bolts/screws to ?.

[itsmeeddie]

well thats what I'm sure it is, so in that case Ill go or anchor bolts directly into the breeze wall?

Thanks,

Eddie

[jtotheb]

Originally Posted by itsmeeddie

well thats what I'm sure it is, so in that case Ill go or anchor bolts directly into the breeze wall?

Thanks,

Eddie

DEFINITELY anchor into the wall. That's how mine is mounted in a 5 year old new build home. Our plasterboard walls are just dabbed on. Only just enough room between the plasterboard and the breeze blocks for the cable runs.

[itsmeeddie]

Brilliant, thanks you for the direct answer, This is what I shall do in 2 weeks time when we move!
more pics to follow when complete!!

Eddie

[Counter]

I presume you are using a generic wall mount, if so I would suggest cutting out the plasterboard and mounting the bracket to the wall using 3 1/2 inch (minimum) heavy duty wall anchors (standard item available from B&Q or anywhere else).

Setting the bracket behind the plasterboard. This will lower the overall profile bringing the lcd closer to the wall, and it is a bit more secure, which is nice!

My next suggestion is really annoying in new houses but here goes anyway. For the cabling I would strongly recommend you cut a channel into the plasterboard and the breezeblock and put a peice of round conduit in the wall, plaster it in such that it will allow you to add/replace/upgrade the cabling with the minimum of fuss. It should take about a day to do all that lot, including get it plastered back up again, sanding and painting 1 to 2 days after that. This will give a much more professional job and much less maintainance, also it makes life easier when you want to leave and take your things with you.

(I would just check whether it is breezeblock or concrete block. Breezeblock can be cut with a standard wood saw and bashed away easily, concrete requires quite a bit more effort!)

Also, from the pics it looks like you have a suspended ceiling. Have you considered in-ceiling surround sound speakers, they would be a doddle to fit and whilst they aren't the best surround sound option they really are the finished article and look the business!

Good luck to you! I'm moving in 9 days and shall be endeavouring a similar challenge.

Enjoy the madness!

[Counter]

And we need pics, everyone likes pics!!!

[haf63]

Excellent advice counter. I am also in the same position and want to get my new plasma as close to the wall as poss so fitting the bracket onto the breeze block will take it back a good few inches. Just need to make sure airflow doesn't become a problem..

[itsmeeddie]

Counter thanks very much, all the information was very helpful!
I'll attach some more pics tuesday as we are having our final walk round with Barrats to approve 3rd fixings.

I hadnt thought about ceiling speakers sounds like a great idea, however, due to cost & being my 1st home, but I think ill have to wait 6 months or so until I know how much "free" cash I have before splashing out on them.

Again, thanks for your help, I know it had been asked before, but its OK reading lots of posts, but until someone directly answeres your question like you did, it all seems very daunting for the 1st time homeowner/newbie to mounting screens.

One thought though, if I recessed the screen into the plaster, would it not suffer from heat problems?

[haf63]

Originally Posted by itsmeeddie

One thought though, if I recessed the screen into the plaster, would it not suffer from heat problems?

That is indeed the question - i.e how far back can you go. Reading the forums, it looks like a number of people have done it such that the front of the bracket is flush with the wall so back of TV is flush with wall. The interesting thing would be if anyone has actually cut the whole to same size as the back of the TV (as opposed to bracket) and then imbedded the TV into the wall further. I will be looking at the wall gap on my new house soon to determine how 'flush' a look i can get - assuming airflow isn't a problem.

[Counter]

Firstly, the heat generated by the display will vent straight out of top. Airflow isn't really a issue, heat rises, so as long as it has somehwere to vent out then it'll be fine, even a really narrow gap then fine.

I have never actually seen any problems with Airflow, and I have seen plenty of LCDs (and more appropriately plasmas mounted over radiators and fire places).

Owing to actually melting the plastic with a raging fire you are highly unlikely ever to have a problem. In the highly unlikely event you do, it will trip out first!

In practice you'll probably find your LCD (and plasmas) will work in higher temperatures than you can stand!

I can say with some degree of certainty you will not have enough room to cut the whole area of the screen. Your wall will be dot and dab plasterboard meaning (as you hopefully will have been able to see as the work has progressed) you have approximately 1/2 to 3/4 of an inch between the breezeblock and plasterboard then 10mm of plasterboard. Inconsistencies in placement of dabs of plaster and the pointing of the blocks makes dropping cables down this gap very difficult, hence my suggestion of the conduit in the wall.

Small shallow channels are OK in the breezeblock but I would strongly advise you not to cut a huge hole into the breezeblock, I would not recommend this in any modern house!

Possibly a candidate for another false chimney job !!!

Sorry to attack your new home there but if no-one has told you then I will, Barratt do not have the best reputation for build quality. That said I suspect they are all as bad as one another.

[itsmeeddie]

Hi counter/all other replies, sorry for not replying sooner.

Thanks for all the advice, I have totally taken this on board, also with what youve said about Barratts, I know they have had a terrible reputation, yrs ago, and maybe this is still the case, but being a 1st time buyer in this modern day market, is very tough & in Lincoln... theres not many new home builders around!

As soon as I get my 3rd fixing walk (hopefully early this week) (monday 26th/27th) I will get more pics posted up for the forum.
So excited now, just want to get moved, stuff the building of wardrobes, coffee tables, beds etc, just want to get the tele on the wall, the pc connected & get viewing more high def material through my tv... oh & get back to playing COD4 on the 360 online

Regards

[II Architect II]

Counter, I too will be moving into a new house soon, unfortunately I only have a stud wall to mount to.

In your opinion would mounting a plate for a 40" tv be strong enough to hold?
Its a concern definately, but It would really free up a ton of space in a small living room.

thanks

[dbs2]

Originally Posted by II Architect II

Counter, I too will be moving into a new house soon, unfortunately I only have a stud wall to mount to.

In your opinion would mounting a plate for a 40" tv be strong enough to hold?
Its a concern definately, but It would really free up a ton of space in a small living room.

thanks

For your sinario just find the studwork with a small tool like a bradle, once you have located them see how they line up with your bracket mounting holes, when you come to fix the bracket try to use a bolt type headed screw and use a spanner for fixing... not a screw driver.... it would be as solid as a rock

Deano