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Old 10-08-2006, 5:37 PM   #1 (permalink)
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My 2nd Garage Into A Cinema

Hi Guys and Gals

after much reading on here ive made the plunge and am converting my second garage into a Home Cinema

here goes the room is a pretty standard 18'6" x 9'

I wanted to do in a way that if we wanted to sell the house we could with this room, so went down the building regs route, bit tiresome and feels over the top with the ampoiunt of insulation you need but hey ho its sorted now

basically a room with in a room stud construction, using 4" x 2"'s and 100 rockwool flexi slabs for the sound, 1 layer of 12.5mm vapour check p board and 1 layer of DB check board at 15mm.

Been doing it a week now and have the studs done and am about to get wiring tomorrow, using my electrician mate.

Ive purchased me kit and gone for

Yamaha DPX-830 projector
Pioneer AX4ASi-S Amp
Pioneer 989AVi-s DVD
B&W 603's fronts
B&W ASW 675 Sub
B&W LCR600 centre
B&W DS6 Diapole Surrounds x 2 pairs
Sky HD


ive taken a few pics, The picture of the garage door is before it was sheethed in with ply, I insulated it to stop condensation in the winter. It will be then insulated inside the sheeting with the 100mm rockwool flexi before the 2 layers of pboard.

I want to end up with a painted type fixed screen on this wall and seek your advise on this , should I go for a 16.9 and paint it with a proper paint, and what paint should I do it in.
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Old 10-08-2006, 8:15 PM   #2 (permalink)
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I want to end up with a painted type fixed screen on this wall and seek your advise on this , should I go for a 16.9 and paint it with a proper paint, and what paint should I do it in.
You can do that, when i did this i used icestorm 6 by Dulux; it is of white or v light greyish and works well in a dedicated light controlled room.


Looking good so far, keep the pics coming
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has anybody used the goo system paint?

and is this any good compared to normal paint??
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Old 10-08-2006, 8:58 PM   #4 (permalink)
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Sounds like a nice setup if done correctly

I would always recomend a screen chosen to suit the room but if you decide to go down the paint route don't bother with "screen paint." Some smoothly applied Dulux works as least as well if not better. Note the importance of good roller technique if you go with paint!

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Old 11-08-2006, 8:45 AM   #5 (permalink)
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has anybody used the goo system paint?
see here for my screen goo project

You have to be very careful applying this as you can get streaking, i would recommend spraying it if you are thinking of this.

I personally preferred it over the Icestorm 5/6 mix that i used and only got rid of the screen last year due to wanting a slightly smaller screen.

As above though i think that you should be okay with a very well applied paint, if you have a light controlled environment, at least it is cheaper than Goo so you can try a few different shades etc.
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Old 11-08-2006, 10:59 AM   #6 (permalink)
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Can you actually just paint the goo onto an ordinary wall. I have seen that you have used it on a made screen. I actually don't want to go the screen route as the size I want it out of the budget for a while, but at the moment I am projecting my image onto a simple white wall and that is working wonders for me. I love it (even though I don't have a trained eye).

If my wall is say 20 foot in circ - can I do the whole wall in the goo and how many coats are required?
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Old 11-08-2006, 8:18 PM   #7 (permalink)
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thanks for the tips inzaman

think ill go for the goo

I was going to try and paint this directly onto the plaster, but reading into that thread a sheet of MDF is the way to go, would you agree ??

also I need to get some power in for the PJ, would you say about 4m form the screen was about right for this type of projector DPX-830 yammy.

On the construction side, had a good day today, finished off the "noggin'in", got all my speaker positions noggined too, had the sky HD man in and he prewired all the sky hD stuff incl my RF2 out for another Tv in the house, and my electrician mate came around in the afternoon and we mananged to get the supplies in for

power

speaker wiring

HDMI cable

stair nozing lights

fibre optic ceiling lights

6 downlighters

spots on stage for screen lighting


what I also need a bit of help on is remote control 2 gang dimmer switches, anybody know of a good source???

ill post some pictures when ive cleaned up out there, too knackered now after todays events


cheers for your help

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Old 11-08-2006, 9:09 PM   #8 (permalink)
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Page 10 of the manual has a handy table to give you an idea of the correct length from the screen. For 9 feet you are looking at around the 4m mark.

Please make sure that you take great car to position the projector correctly and whatever you do avoid keystone as this ruins your resolution - not good when you have just spent a chunk of change to get a good image!

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Can you actually just paint the goo onto an ordinary wall
I am sure you can but it will need to be flat, if i can remember correctly it is pretty unforgiving of bumps etc as it has a kind of reflective surface.

thomo99, if you use mdf be sure to either fix it to the wall at the top and bottom of the mdf or paint both sides of the mdf (not with goo but normal paint) as mdf has a tendancy to curl at the bottom once painted.
If you do decide to go with the goo you need to be very careful upon application and i would definitely recommend spraying as you can get streaks with a roller. These streaks do disappear over time but if they are too prominent they may not.

Sounds like the rest of it is coming on okay
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cheers guys

ive got the pros in from "moss of bath" to do the install, so up to them to get the pj in correctly. Got the power for them and the HDMI cable in the loft.

im going to do a larger area than needed to start with in the goo, then once the pj is up, ill do the border from the actual image rather than guessing, and giving the enginner an impossible job to get it without the need for keystone correction. Once done ill paint over the remaining goo not needed in the room colour, well thats the plan .

Ive gone for the low level ceing bracket as my ceilings 2.50m high at screen end, and hopefully ill get a 90 or 100 inch diagonal, maybe a little restricted as I have my 603s on the left and the right, between my proposed purpose built carpeted stage housing my av gear.
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a few new pics for you chaps

its now wired with loads of ligting feeds, for the fibre optics, the stage lighting etc, plus al the speaker cabling and HDMI cable, cant put it through the ceiling until PJ in position as dont want to go through in the wrong place
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been insulating today with rockwool acoustic flexi bats

shower straight away, itchy stuff

heres a few progress pics
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a few more pics of todays progress

managed to double board a fair amount of it, will finish rest tommorrow

1 -12.5mm vapour check board
1 - 15mm DB check board

take some more snapos tomoorow, got to get finished then as plastering starts on friday at 7.30am
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well managed to get all the tacking done, 2 layers everywhere, its been scrimmed and the thincoat angle beads are on. Its blue due to it being DB board

plasterers starting tomorrow at 7.30am


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well the plasterers been, and a mighty fine job he did

asked him to pay great attention to the wall im projecting on, and he duly did

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