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Old 08-05-2006, 8:01 PM   #1 (permalink)
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pelmet to hide screen ?

Trying to design a pelmet to cover my 6ft screen,not a problem you think
well the screen has to be 5" off the wall to come down over the front of the plasma (7200 )
if i were to use 5" blocks of timber to bring it out over the screen would it be safe ? anyone done similar ? or any suggestions ? any designs would be great
the pelmet will be at ceiling height and stretch the whole width of a 3.5m wall.

by the way i don't want to hang it from the ceiling.

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my screen hangs off a shelf so it clears the tv, have you considered a shelf?
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I have to ask the question, Why don't you want to hang it from the ceiling? It would be the better option.

I don't think 5" blocks of anything would be a good idea! Why not see if you can get wall brackets that would allow you to come out 5", that way the brackets (3 or 4) would be strong enough to support the screen.

The next question would be "how you are going to attach the brackets to the case"?
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thnx shahedz for prompt reply

problem is the brkts to hang the screen are on the back of the housing,so it needs to back on to something which could be possible.
any pics ?

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Hi Kev

my screen cover isnt hidden ar all. it literally hangs off the wall. so not sure if my idea would be any good to you. but if you still want some pics i can PM you some, if you need a custom made pelmet to hide the screen try www.jali.co.uk
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I have to ask the question, Why don't you want to hang it from the ceiling? It would be the better option.

I don't think 5" blocks of anything would be a good idea! Why not see if you can get wall brackets that would allow you to come out 5", that way the brackets (3 or 4) would be strong enough to support the screen.

The next question would be "how you are going to attach the brackets to the case"?
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didn't think i had the brkt on the screen to hang it,turns out i have,i will check which way the rafters run,maybe easier.And Safer
it would be then be easier to just box around it.

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Hi Kev

my screen cover isnt hidden ar all. it literally hangs off the wall. so not sure if my idea would be any good to you. but if you still want some pics i can PM you some, if you need a custom made pelmet to hide the screen try www.jali.co.uk
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was thinking more of a box with a slit in it for the screen to come done thru' than just a valance,but thnx for link.

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Kev,

I've attached photo's of my screen that I boxed in myself.

I built a frame around the screen case with rough cut 50mm square wood attaching it to the walls and ceiling. I then fixed good old MDF to it, filled in the gaps with ordinary filler and painted to match.

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very stylish setup kdog
wont be able to match that but at least i now have a couple of ideas,will most probably go for some sort of brkt off the wall and hang the screen off that then box it in.

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Interesting thread as I have the same problem.

I need 8 cm clearance to allow the screen to miss the tv when lowered. I was also going to build it to sit 8 cm off the wall in an MDF/timber frame but I have reservations about the weight etc.

Until I come up with a permanent solution I have actually attached the screen to my curtain rail using small caribina clips!

The curtian pole is a sturdy wooden one, firmly attached at three point. It has large wooden hoops that the curtains should attach to. I have removed the curtans and attached the screen via the ceiling mount rings to the hoops on the pole. It's very sturdy and gives me exactly the gap I need to miss the TV!

Ultimately I might cut the ends of the pole, remove all the extra hoops and use this as a permanent way to hang the screen and just hide the pole with regular curtains or box around that.

Hope that makes sense.
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Professional blind anstaller here!

Top fixing it to the ceiling is best, especially if you can locate the rafters or alternatively a "lath and fascia" type as its known in the trade. Effectively this is a board that top fixes to the ceiling and spans the width to whatever degree you need and can be either fixed through to the rafters/joists or can be fixed using multiple plasterboard fixings. Then screen/blind/curtain track is the simply fixed to the board. To finish it a small MDF pelmet can be fitted to the face edge, to whatever depth best conceals everything.

If however there is no option other than to face fix, the same type of construction as above can be fitted to "pelmet board brackets" available in lots of different offsets and to suit very large pelmet boards.

Both the above methods are used in very large installations with no fear of problems, PROVIDING that the initial fixing to wall/ceiling is a good one.

If you are lucky enough to have the joists running the same way as the screen box, its a simple matter to fit it to the face of a joist in the ceiling recess and completely enclose it.
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A lot of talk about using MDF on this thread. However, 'old fashioned' ply would work - with thicknesses from 3mm upwards (depending on its use in the structure) and it is also a lighter material. Therefore less load. Downside is a little more surface prep to get it as smooth as mdf.
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some images of my construction, which may be of interest...











The screen was hung from 'noggins' which were fixed between the rafters (fortunatey running in the same direction as the screen), and the screen was then boxed in as seen in the photo's. A slot was left for the scdreen to drop through, and i finally fitted two halogen downlighters either side - on a remote controlled swith programmed to 'spare' button on my remote - all seems to work well...
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Mark, that looks pretty smart
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that looks fantastic, the spotlights are a real nice touch
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