Gas Fire Removal?

[chez]

I want to mount my Plasma on the wall where my Gas Fire currently lives.

One optionis to mount it above the fire, but I would rather have it lower than this.

The house is around 6 years old, the wall is plasterboard and the fire is a stand-alone (ie no back boiler as in older houses).

Does anyone know if this is difficult to do and how much it might cost?

Thanks in advance
Chez

[creative-av]

Hi Chez,

Have a look in the Home Cinema DIY forum as there are numerous posts related to this type of install.

You'll need to check the temperature emitted above the fire and confirm that it is below the maximum exposure that the plasma manufacturer has specified. You don't want your screen to melt!

You'll then need some nice big bolts for the mount, the mount itself, hide the cables behind the plasterboard and you are there!

Steve

[thekingbeyond]

If you do decide to remove the fire then make sure a corgi registered Installer does the removal. It is illegal for any one else to do the job anyway, once the fire is out you can do the rest of the work yourself of get a general builder in

[chez]

Sorry guys - I wasn't clear.

I do want to remove the fire and am aware that this would require a CORGI registered de-installer.

Does anyone have any idea as to the cost of removal and putting right the hole in the wall?

Thanks
Chez

[creative-av]

Have a check on the rules wrt gas fire removal as you may be able to take the fire out yourself but you'll need a corgi registered person to cap the gas supply to the fire.

As to cost of putting the hole right it depends on if you have to remove a mantle, have it all replastered etc

Steve

[chez]

Originally Posted by SteveJR

Have a check on the rules wrt gas fire removal as you may be able to take the fire out yourself but you'll need a corgi registered person to cap the gas supply to the fire.

As to cost of putting the hole right it depends on if you have to remove a mantle, have it all replastered etc

Steve

Yes, mantle and surround etc to be removed!

[creative-av]

Remove the mantle and surround and see if the plasterboard behind is damaged or needs replastering. If you feel confident enough to give a little bit of plastering a go then a bag will cost £5 from a diy shop and a plastering trowl about £10.

If you get a corgi guy to do it all then you are probably looking at £150-200 as they will probably charge for a full days work and then you may have to pay for a plasterer for half a day(even though it will take him less than an hour!)

Maybe post up a couple of pics?

Steve

[chez]

I can't pull the fireplace away until I know I'm going to remove it! lol My GF would kill me

How are mantles attached to the wall?

I wouldn't feel confident plastering myself..

Here's a pic of the fireplace HERE

[LV426]

Moving to DIY.....

[creative-av]

Chez,

First thing is to remove the mirror!

The surround will most probably have little hooks on the inside of the legs that are attached to screws in the wall. Try to lift it up and see if it will come away.

If that doesn't work then you will have to slide the fire out and remove the back panel you have. You will then be able to gain access to the back of the surround and undo any screws to remove the surround.

Until you get the surround off and the fire out it is impossible to say how much repair will be needed to the wall. You be lucky and the builders have fitted the fire after the wall has been plastered so may just need to touch up the paint.

I would suggest that if you want the plasma on the wall and the cables hidden etc then you should get someone in who is in the trade to do the install for you as you may need a new electrical point, chasing out walls etc etc

Steve

[woody67]

Originally Posted by chez

Sorry guys - I wasn't clear.

I do want to remove the fire and am aware that this would require a CORGI registered de-installer.

CORGI registration is only a requirement if you are working on gas installations as part of a business.

It is perfectly legal to work on your own gas installations if you want to. Obviously you need to know what you are doing first though!

A house six yeaars old is likley to have built in flue blocks rather than a traditional lined chimney. If so, you can just plasterboard over the opening, and make good to any holes left by the surround

[chez]

Originally Posted by LV426

Moving to DIY.....

OK then, but I won't be doing it myself!

Originally Posted by SteveJR

Chez,

First thing is to remove the mirror!

The surround will most probably have little hooks on the inside of the legs that are attached to screws in the wall. Try to lift it up and see if it will come away.

If that doesn't work then you will have to slide the fire out and remove the back panel you have. You will then be able to gain access to the back of the surround and undo any screws to remove the surround.

Until you get the surround off and the fire out it is impossible to say how much repair will be needed to the wall. You be lucky and the builders have fitted the fire after the wall has been plastered so may just need to touch up the paint.

I would suggest that if you want the plasma on the wall and the cables hidden etc then you should get someone in who is in the trade to do the install for you as you may need a new electrical point, chasing out walls etc etc

Steve

I will have a look intohow it is attached.

I already have an AV installer lined up to mount the screen, install a new mains spur, run the cabling behind the plasterboard/under the floor and fit new mains sockets etc

Originally Posted by woody67

CORGI registration is only a requirement if you are working on gas installations as part of a business.

It is perfectly legal to work on your own gas installations if you want to. Obviously you need to know what you are doing first though!

A house six yeaars old is likley to have built in flue blocks rather than a traditional lined chimney. If so, you can just plasterboard over the opening, and make good to any holes left by the surround

I certainly don't know what I'm doing, so would get someone else in. I have a plumber coming in at some point for some other work, so wil ring him and ask for a quote..

The house is as youdescribed and does not have a chimney.

[IronGiant]

The Corgi registered bit of removing a gas fire is 5 minutes work, so if you have a plumber already coming, then certainly get him to do that bit. The rest can be done by any handy andy.

[Mr_Wistles]

Your surround will just be screwed on. You can probably get £100-£150 for it as it looks like it is in good condition.

[smileysmile]

Chez

that is a gas fire on a flat wall with outside chimney breast?

If so yours is very similar set up like mine. My house is also 6 yrs old.

I am definatly not going to block up my fire place just to have a plasma lower.

Mad idea cos many people want a gas fire (focal point etc) especially when the house was designed with chimney breast inplace.

However I am going the 'hole in the wall' gas fire option which gets rid of the large surround. There are some nice ones on the market.

You can then have the option of the plasma lower which is the whole reason I want the 'hole in the wall gas fire'

There is a thread where a poster on here is in the process of doing it. Photos and all