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24-07-2004, 10:20 PM
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Some of us from the Rel 100Qe home build team have expressed concerns that the driver is not up to coping with the latest films.
Just to experiment, I am in the process of swapping these over..,
The original driver on the right weighs in at 3kgs, the new kid is 12kgs from the world of car audio. I couldn't get it into the box, because it's a tiny bit wider than the original, so I flipped the box on it's back, stuck the driver on top upside down and we were blown away by it's performance...
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25-07-2004, 11:52 AM
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The old driver certainly doesn't look very substantial! I've got a Peerless XLS10 in my sub which I know is fairly beefy 
What's the new driver model? It certainly looks impressive and 12kg is very heavy!
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25-07-2004, 12:55 PM
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it's a grey import, so i'm not exactly sure what it is :-)
It's badged up as SHARK
XSub12 1200w 12inch Subwoofer - The Rock
Impedance: 2x4 Ohm
Power: 1200 Watt max
700w RMS
Dual Voice coil
2,5" 4 -Layer KSV
Freq.: 20Hz - 1,5 kHz
Spl: 98 dB
120 oz Magnet
Vas: 44 Litre
Xmax: 1"
Depth c. 22 cm
20Hz - 1,5 kHz
Continuous Power (RMS) 400
Thiele-Small Params.
Qmas 5,0177
Qes 0,9125
Qts 0,4650
Vas 42,3595
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25-07-2004, 3:27 PM
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Oh my!. That is a rather large driver.
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25-07-2004, 4:09 PM
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I've used some Shark gear before (mainly cabling and connectors) and think it's very good stuff.
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25-07-2004, 5:23 PM
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If I had the time and money I think I would try a Peerless XLS12 and a pair of the passive radiators. That driver looks fun though. What did it cost?
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25-07-2004, 7:33 PM
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Alleged RSP was £139, I paid £59 ex VAT. The chap who imports these has a forum stuffed full of complaints of shoddy service and poor goods, but my experience was it came on time, was well packed and is a seriously nice bit of kit. As a straight replacement for the BK driver in RELinquished it is seriously rattling the house in simple dolby prologic... WAF... Jackie would like me to leave the cone visible
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25-07-2004, 7:42 PM
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Like to tell us a little bit more ? . like where you got it...Point us at a URL !! It certainly looks like a monster, are you going to use it as a direct replacement ? The xmax is frightening................  Have you tried some of the "dificult" passages on it - opening of AOTC, opening of LOTR FOTR etc. - the ones which distort the BSB 12.....................
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25-07-2004, 8:39 PM
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It was properly fitted into the box less than 2 hours ago and the silicone is still setting (decided to go for a silicone seal). While I'm desperate to try it out on some troublesome scenes I am also aware it is my 17th Wedding Anniversary today and as Jackie is watching Waking the Dead, I need to wait.
I would prefer to road test it myself before passing on any reccomendations
I do plan to do this tonight, so please don't go to allyourbass.co.uk and click on subwoofer...  
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25-07-2004, 9:00 PM
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I have some experience with these, or rather my brother does - he used a pair of them in his car audio setup a while ago.
He bought his from ebay but the seller also has a store here: http://www.allyourbass.co.uk/?productid=63&refid=4
They aren't bad for car audio but haven't heard them in the home. The only problem we had was the fact one of them was faulty and sounded much quieter than the other, took ages for a replacement too.
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25-07-2004, 9:03 PM
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I see you got them from the same place as he did.
I must be losing my mind because I didn't spot the fact you posted where you bought them from before I posted that above.
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25-07-2004, 9:09 PM
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Congrats on the wedding anniversary.................  Quote: |
I do plan to do this tonight, so please don't go to allyourbass.co.uk and click on subwoofer...
| ................. , OK, at least I'll wait, but really would like your impression of the "trouble spots"..... 
Just spotted the pic of the driver mounted in the enclosure - it looks evil !!
Sean.
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25-07-2004, 9:33 PM
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BTW, Mrs Ritz say you know the way 1st annivsersary is Paper on up to Gold for the 50th................ she want's to know if the 17th is "Subwoofer" !!!!
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I'd be interested to see how this runs? Your running the 8ohm panel and splitting it to the 2x4ohm channels? I'm seriously enjoying the extra bass relax-12 is giving, but I would love it to go deeper, and have more punch! Especially for that kind of price, would stop me from starting again (Altough getting the kit of Gary to do a Sonotube is also very tempting!)
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26-07-2004, 11:22 AM
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Didn't get a chance to test it out last night, I'll try tonight
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And yes I'm running the 2 4 ohm coils in serires from the BK 100 watt panel.
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