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Old 30-06-2009, 10:57 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Newbie needs help hiding cables in wall

Hi
I'm a total noob when it comes to DIY so need some guidance.
I'm moving to a new house soon and would like to mount a 50" Plasma and satelite speakers on the walls, with the cabling all hidden in the walls. See attached picture to get an idea of what I want to achieve.
The walls are plastered brick. I'm thinking I would need to make some sort of channels in the walls possibly using a grinder? Then insert metal tubing, plaster over the mess and repaint? I would probably also need some sort of plate to cover the ugly holes in the wall at each end of the tubing?
Would appreciate some suggestions to get me started.
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Old 30-06-2009, 11:25 PM   #2 (permalink)
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I've just done a similar install with the help of my father in law over the last few days, it was no fun I tell you! Are you sure it's not a wood framed house with bricks on the outside, if so, it'll probably just be a cavity wall filled with insulation. We found the interal walls a doddle to feed cables down, but the external facing walls were filled with insulation along with a wooden beam half way up the wall running horizontally, PITA.
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Use pvc tubing that shouldn't expand and shrink as much as metal would do...
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Thanks guys. Any more advice from anyone?
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if you are chasing into plaster over brick i would be prepared to replaster the whole wall. Old plaster will be prone to lifting off when you start chasing it. Running thin cable with a grinder MAY work...but if you start needing new sockets etc and you want them flush in the wall then you will be looking at chasing into the brick itself....and again a full re-plaster ideally. Have you thought about going down the false/floating wall route instead?
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Re: Newbie needs help hiding cables in wall

Hi,

I recently made channels in my plaster/brick wall to hold a HDMI cable & speaker cables. I also ran a spur for a new plug high up a wall for a projector. If you look for my posts I got some advice on this topic from this forum.
To summarise, I used a bolster (wide chisel) & hammer to create cuts into the plaster for each side of the channel. I then used a thin chisel to chisel out the plaster in between. The plaster was pretty thick so once i had done that, the channel was deep enough to cover my cables. I didn't have to go into the brickwork. To hold the cables in place I used little plastic cable ties which I attached to the brickwork with little screws & rawlplugs. For the cable exits I attached junction boxes which I did have to drill/chisel out so that they were flush with the plaster. I also bought decorative plates from nexxia to terminate each channel.
I was getting the whole room thin skimmed by the plasterer. He used bonding plaster to fill in the channels before skimming the walls.
If you aren't plastering the whole room I am sure you can get good results with just using bonding plaster for the channels & maybe polyfilla to give it a cleaner finish.
I didn't use ducting in my channels. This means that if I want to change any cabling I would have to rip out cables & replace them, but I can live with that. I won't be changing anything for a long time. If I'd wanted to use ducting, I would have had to run the channels into the brickwork, & that was too much work.
As a DIYer running the channels into plaster was quite hard work but technically not too dificult. I found drilling/chiselling into the bricks to make space for the backboxes to be a completele nightmare. I got it done, but I found it very hard work. If your plaster isn't thick enough to cover your cables, I would get some sort of tool - maybe the grinder you suggest. Like I said I got a plasterer to do all my plastering, but I wouldn't have any fear using bonding plaster myself in the future. It looked pretty easy to use. The finishing plaster is a different matter though. That's why I suggested using polyfilla to get a good final finish.

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Thanks everyone for the replies. I've found this very helpful. Will try to post some before, during and after pictures.
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Or how about a floating wall. Looks brilliant and makes it a doddle to hide your cables. Add the obligatory rope lights round the edge and you are away. Plenty of threads on here showing the potential results.
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Or how about a floating wall. Looks brilliant and makes it a doddle to hide your cables. Add the obligatory rope lights round the edge and you are away. Plenty of threads on here showing the potential results.
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