Glazed Extension - 7.1 surround & projector

[turbo-northener]

Well it seemed like a good idea, build a glazed extension to enjoy the garden and escape the kids, fill it with some AV gear and relax.
Well I may get there one day - I started the build approximately 2 months ago, only on weekends and the occasional hour on an evening after the terrible twins are in bed.



I am trying to plan in advance for some of the issues which hopefully i will deal with as i go along:

• Acoustics - an almost all glass structure will be terrible i suspect.
• Where can all the cable go?
• How can i make it anything like dark without ruining all the lovely light flooding in?
• I have no walls left for mounting anything.

Well here we go...
these pics are of the dwarf wall up to the glazed units going in and a bit of column building. The units are triple glazed and extremely heavy, i had to support them around the top with a make shift wall plate to hold them all square.
They are imported from Sweden and so hopefully i won't damage anything...8 weeks lead time is a little excessive.
The bay windows are supported with an additional timber anchored into the ground.

Not going too bad so far, these are about a month ago, so about 4 weekends work for me and the old man.
I will update with new pics soon.

Edited with correct attachments

[turbo-northener]

finally updated the images properly - will now add a load more...

[turbo-northener]

So this was a little later on, the gable wall has been built and the roof is mostly on.
The ridge beam took 6 of us to lift into place and thankfully my calculations seem to be correct as nothing has bent..yet.
started to lay a few speaker cables in the ceiling void - in all i some how managed to use 50m !!
The AV equipment goes on the wall with the existing patio door so there will be a stud wall to allow the cables to run behind.
The projector will be ceiling mounted - note to self "build a ceiling", the screen will be fitted over the bay windows so when not in use I can see the kids wrecking the garden...

look forward to any comments

[albriscoe]

I`ll tell you what mate thats a nice room

shame its no good for a projector though

seriously you will have next to no image at all unless you virtually and I mean completely black out all the roof and side walls.

Sorry to have to be the bearer of this but its the truth

I have built a conservatory onto my new build house finished last year and my LCD in their is virtually useless during the day so a pj image will be non existent.

Their are blind manufacturers as I`m sure you`ll know who will make you some blackout blinds, but they are an arm an a leg to buy and will they be total blackout, I`m not sure tbh.

Anyway good luck with it all and keep up with the pics as they are excellent

cheers Al

[turbo-northener]

I thought it was just not the done thing on here to use either a floating wall or floating shelf and so i have fitted the brackets into the wall and the main support bit on the wall will be plastered over.
The shelves are stupidly heavy, approximately 70Kg of finest french oak 100mm x 200mm hence 3 brackets each...hope those sums are right.

Also started to lay more cables, I have put all electrical leads into the trunking to try and isolate it.
Some of the signal leads are also in trunking - the ones to the projector may need to be changed at some point, currently run a HDMI and Composite up there.

The speaker cable is not massive and so i have decided to run two runs of it to the front speakers, this can then be biwired or one pair used for negative, the other positive, thus providing a larger size of speaker cable without the cost.

starting to take shape, about 10 weekends so far....

[turbo-northener]

Originally Posted by albriscoe

I`ll tell you what mate thats a nice room

shame its no good for a projector though

seriously you will have next to no image at all unless you virtually and I mean completely black out all the roof and side walls.

Sorry to have to be the bearer of this but its the truth

aware of that slight floor in my plan....
to be honest we only ever get the chance to watch films late on, say after 8 or 9pm when the kids are tucked up, so for most of the year it should be ok.
The room is also shaded by the house by tea time.

However, I have ordered some very heavy curtains for acoustic absorbtion (hopefully) and some blackout (possibly). I will see how this goes and get ready to buy blackout blinds / linings to go behind them.

As for the roof, I am looking at tinting it for more heat rejection and also blinds. I'm fairly sure you need a different specifcation of glass to my type of triple glazed to be able to tint it though - don't fancy stress fractures...

[albriscoe]

Sounds like you have it all planned well

I put my front 3 speakers flushed into my wall as well as the plasma, quite a nice feature and it gets them out of the way and off the floor.

My 2 rears are on stands and are quite unobtrusive but I did run white self adhesive conduits very small ones in the corners which against the white frames you can`t see them, infact I`d forgotten about them until I typed this

thick curtains will of course play 2 parts, light control and sound reflection but its the roof that I think could cause you a problem. Thinking about the roof, can you not get some tinting film such as found on car windows. I`ve seen it done to great effect on a sunroom glazed wall and it looked the dogs doodahs.

Anyway good luck and keep us posted

Al

[turbo-northener]

Originally Posted by albriscoe

I`ll tell you what mate thats a nice room




cheers Al

just realised i got praised from none other than big al....that's praise indeed....where in Yorkshire are you from.
I'm from East yorkshire so not sure i should talk to you

[turbo-northener]

So this is the plasterboard on, I hope the speaker cables are right and i haven't screwed through anything...

ignore the washing in the background please...

Now my mate has to come along as I can't plaster very well - done everything else so far with my old man.

I boarded completely over the brackets in the wall so hopefully the metal detector will still work - they were steel weren't they...???

The ridge is now a bit darker as i blacked out the top glass sections and this bit will be boarded over to provide a metre wide strip of ceiling, that in turn will be covered with rockwool / material to help with the amazing echo, echo, echo effect i currently get.
I can also mount the projector to it.

Also a shot of some of the indian sandstone as the outside needs a bit of a makeover too.

[albriscoe]

Originally Posted by turbo-northener

just realised i got praised from none other than big al....that's praise indeed....where in Yorkshire are you from.
I'm from East yorkshire so not sure i should talk to you

thanks matey, theres no borders here mate just roads into and out of and I`ll talk to anybody

We`re at Normanton junc 31 on M62, and you are ??

Always in your parts over at the coast infact was their yesterday

[turbo-northener]

Originally Posted by albriscoe

thanks matey, theres no borders here mate just roads into and out of and I`ll talk to anybody

We`re at Normanton junc 31 on M62, and you are ??

Always in your parts over at the coast infact was their yesterday

the infamous town of driffield, on the way to bridlington...
strangely a lot of people know of it despite there being very little here...
can i also take the opportunity to say what an amazing build you have, i have read your threads front to back - very impressed indeed.

here's were we got plastered, unfortunately not literally, just on the walls.
trial fitted the lumps of oak to be known as shelves and nothing collapsed !!!

Boarded out the ceiling section except for the bit where the projector goes.

the sleepers need drilling out on the back to slide over the brackets - that could be fun...

[turbo-northener]

So the plasters on and now the travertine goes down and it looks like a room !

what's left before the AV -

• sealing everything with silicone inside and out
• checking the sealing
• finishing the electrics
• fitting all the external aluminium trims that i have ordered and need to fit to make it watertight
• more painting
• cills
• i'm sure there's more.

these pics take us up to last weekend so it will be a bit slower posting from now on as stuff gets done.

child labour, you can't beat it...

[turbo-northener]

trial fitting the corner settee to make sure it all fits..
true realisation just how much acoustic and blackout work will be required on a sunny day, looks like evening use only for the old projector....

[deefadog]

Fair one, that looks amazing! That's one huge glazed extension!

Look forward to the final results! Now paint all that glass black and get a projector in their

[turbo-northener]

Originally Posted by deefadog

Fair one, that looks amazing! That's one huge glazed extension!

Look forward to the final results! Now paint all that glass black and get a projector in their

cheers,
i was thinking more charcoal or anthracite then black but interior decor was never a strong point...