[hazza]

Hello peeps,

sorry if this has been answered somewhere but I couldn't find it.

I've built a framework for a LCD TV to be set it the wall of the lounge at my flat, and want to cover it all with plasterboards but there will be a number of cut edges of the plasterboard which I need to finish off cleanly, there's also going to be a number of outside corners where two pieces of plasterboard will meet, which need finishing. Ideally I don't want to have to get a plasterer in to apply plaster one of it all and just want to decorate over the plaster boards which i under is possible. How can I do this?? Does anyone know of any products which I can use?? How should the edge of the two pieces be overlapped??

I've attached a picture hopefully that will make sense of what I'm trying to achieve

Thanks in advance.

[dobbin]

Hazza

I'm not a plasterer (and I cannot plaster to save my life!) but I know that they use a metal edging strip. You can see an example on the plasterboard edges in the photo here
http://www.avforums.com/forums/attac...0&d=1156975032

THe whole thing is then skimmed and the metal edges hidden.
Where two plasterboards meet a ?hessian? tape is run down the edge. Again this is hidden when the plasterboards are skimmed.

Are you planning to get this plasterboarded and then Skimmed by a plasterer OR are you planning to do something yourself?

[hazza]

Originally Posted by dobbin

Hazza

I'm not a plasterer (and I cannot plaster to save my life!) but I know that they use a metal edging strip. You can see an example on the plasterboard edges in the photo here
http://www.avforums.com/forums/attac...0&d=1156975032

THe whole thing is then skimmed and the metal edges hidden.
Where two plasterboards meet a ?hessian? tape is run down the edge. Again this is hidden when the plasterboards are skimmed.

Are you planning to get this plasterboarded and then Skimmed by a plasterer OR are you planning to do something yourself?

Hey dobbin, Just like u mate, "I cannot plaster to save my life" so was hoping to simply put down plaster boards and then just decorate over them, of course after finishing off the edges, without getting a plasterer in to do any skimming. Is there no way of cleaning off out joins of plaster boards and then painting over???

[dobbin]

In this case rather than plasterboard I would use plywood or MDF. I assume that you are only covering the area on the wall shown with the frame on it? In that case I would use 2 sheets of 8' x 4' MDF @ 9mm. I would cut the MDF (or better still get it pre cut for you at B&Q) so that the join is in the centre of the distance covered. I presuume that is the centre of the TV. You can then use a small curved (D shape) moulding (again B&Q) between the join to finish it off.
The other edges I would use the same moulding or use either a hockystick moulding or a pine corner moulding.

Any more questions just ask.

[hazza]

[QUOTE=dobbin]In this case rather than plasterboard I would use plywood or MDF.QUOTE]

I guess that is an option, can MDF be decorated over and wont the finish look different from original wall, due to the way they take up the paint??

[dobbin]

I think it depends on how the MDF is primed etc. But I cannot say for certain. Sorry!
The same can be said for unfinished/unskimmed plasterboard. If you really want it exactly the same then you will have to find a plasterer and pay to get it all done (or just the skimming).

[GasDad]

I have done it (not for AV but for to create a walk in wardrobe) using MDF.

Simply stick lining paper to the MDF (use PVA glue rather than wallpaper paste) and you will end up with the same surface for decration.

Having said that, and even though the MDF looked fine - I'd probably get a plasterer in if I was doing it again. More because of how it feels (which is a pretty naff argument lol).

James

[hazza]

Any more ideas at all??

[dobbin]

You could use plastic/UPVC angle strips such as

https://secure.mkmplastics.com/
There are a number of 'joining' profiles on this site.

or

http://www.casupply.co.uk/acatalog/f...ing_trims.html

[benwillcox]

Originally Posted by hazza

Any more ideas at all??

Yes use taper edge plasterboard, angle bead, and then tape and fill the joints using jointing compound.

Knauf have some diy tutorials at www.knaufdiy.co.uk

Ben.

[Bacus]

Hazza,

As above, you are better off using MDF. When all MDF has been fitted sandpaper all edges smooth and then prime with PVA. When PVA has dryed it is ready for painting,simple. If you do use plasterboard then the only real way to make it look good is to use angle beads on all exposed sides and then apply a skim coat with plaster.
I am in the building trade and do use a lot of MDF for cubbards,shelving,room dividers and so on. MDF is easy to work with,super smooth and if you butt 2 sheets up together you simply use a bit of filler,wait till dry then sand smooth,brush on PVA and then paint !! Use 9mm MDF if you decide !!

[Skeet]

Go to somewhere like Halfords etc.

Buy "Davids Isopon P38 Easy Sand" if you cant get easy sand, get the regular one.

Its an polyester based car body filler.
Dont get teh one with fibre glass strands in it.

My father has been using it for years and years in proffesional decorating (Kensington, Buckingham Palace etc)...

Reason being, it doesnt shrink, doesnt crack liek plaster...sets and dries quickly, meaning you can get teh job done much quicker.

You can reconstruct shapes with it...repair window ledges..anything.

Can be drilled and tapped even...hard as rock this stuff.

Mix it up, not too pink (teh hardener is red, teh more hardener teh quicker it sets and teh pinker it is), put it where you want it using teh spreader provided.

I would paint the plaster board first to seal it...something liek an alkaline resistant primer...then fill it, as it will mean less damage to teh plasterboard surface when you sand it down.

No metal edges, will look perfect if you take teh time.

All you do, is add more until teh surface is flat and uniform. Just on teh joins, rough edges etc.

Trust me.

Something about this size, then yopu have some left over for the next job.

http://www.edirectory.co.uk/pf/880/m...re/pid/1346862

Your right about MDF not taking paint up in teh same way as well...will look very smooth compared to plaster board walls.

Also...that much MDF in a decent thickness, will be pretty expensive!

I would also allow teh whole thing to settle, once your ready to start filling...after the board is up, so it can aclimatise to teh room its in.

[dobbin]

Ok Hazza.
Plenty of advice.
We look forward to hearing what you decide and seeing the finished photos.

[jamfortea]

I built a similar stud frame to yours and was concerned about plasterboard edges. Basically I clad it with tapered edge plasterboard, nailed on steel corner beads and applied two to three layers of ready mixed jointing compound, sanded it back and the results are excellent. If you have and corner joint where it is not possible to use the tapered edge of the plasterboard, just do the same as above but feather out the jointing compound a bit wider. If you have any butt joints between sheets just use joining tape over the top and fill with jointing compound and sand back. It is fairly easy really and the results are worth it.

[Bert Coules]

Hazza,

You might care to investigate a material called Fermacell, which is essentially a plasterboard alternative which doesn't need all-over skimming or edge treatment. A browse through the archives of the Yahoo UK_Selfbuild group will bring up huge amounts of information.

Bert
www.bertcoules.co.uk

[hazza]

Thanks for all the useful advice guys, really appreciate it, but i didnt feel confident doing it myself, so i've agreed to pay a plasterer £100 to plasterboard and skim over the whole lot. Dont know what the going rate for plastering job is but sounded reasonable for materials and labour.

Anyway i'll post a pic of the finished job next weekend.

[mark88]

Digging this thread up as it didn't seem to have a satisfactory answer.

You can buy specialist beads/trims specifically designed to concealed the edges of plasterboard. They don't sell them in B&Q, wickes etc.

Expamet supply a galvanised steel edging bead. Edging Bead | Expamet These can also be powder coated.

Renderplas supply PVC board stop beads: http://www.renderplas.co.uk/downloads/POS-Brochure.pdf (EB12) which can be ordered in all sorts of colours.

I have samples of both and the PVC beads are better IMO.

What's even better are aluminum trims.

SAS International - dry lining trims
http://www.palcouk.com/pdfs/dry_lining.pdf

They come in coated white aluminum and all sorts of different profiles. Other colors can be ordered as well. You'll find all kinds of profiles you never thought existed that allow you to work with plasterboard more freely rather than reverting to MDF.