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Old 20-03-2006, 11:25 AM   #1
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help on plasma display wall mounting

Hi guys,

I'm italian and my english is not so good, therefore be patient.
I like this forum very much and I think this is the right place to receive a good suggestion to solve my problem.
I have to install a 43" plasma display (about 40Kg) on a plaster panel.
I don't know the correct technical term in english but it seems to be made of plaster breeze blocks.
I have already installed plasma on usual walls or plasterboard with steel frame inside but in this case I'm not sure about the most suitable way to anchor the bracket.
Do you think a standard fixing system with nylon plug, e.g. Fischer FU series 10x60, could be reliable or it's better a chemical fixing or something else?
Every suggestion in this matter will be very appreciated.

Thank in advance for your support.
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Old 20-03-2006, 5:29 PM   #2
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if it is indeed breeze block then i would go the 10mm wall plug and coach screws. 8mm coach screws will expand the plug and with them being a nut end its easier to tighten them. Never use the cheap small crap that comes with a bracket. If your still unsure try a resin aswell. You can buy resin in a tube and use in a normal sealent gun. This will go off with the fixings in place and not even god himself could move it then. Good luck.
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Old 21-03-2006, 1:54 PM   #3
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For one you dont use wall plugs with coach bolts lolol Also you wouldnt use an 8mm fixing with a 10mm plug , you'd use an 8mm plug with an 8mm fixing!

Sorry , i'm not trying to be a smart a**e but so many people use this site for advice and the advice here is excellent but if morgan was to follow your advice his beloved screen would fall straight off the wall!

Morgan , sleeve anchor fixings are the way to go , i'd use at least 8 and make sure theyre about 100mm long to ensure a super strong fixing! Theyre easy to use and the instructions are on the back of the pack! Theyre also cheap to buy at around £7 ish for 4 , you can pick them up at your local d.i.y store or goto www.screwfixdirect.co.uk and type 'sleeve' or 'anchor' into the search bar and it'll bring up a whole range of fixings in different sizes and designs!

Also it may be worth scanning back through a few pages in this area of avforums of the home diy section as this subject has been covered a lot in quite some detail

Hope this helps!

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Old 21-03-2006, 3:20 PM   #5
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a 10mm bolt will have the same shaft size of the 10mm rawlplug therefore completely ripping it apart. You use a smaller bolt into a larger rawplug matey boy. Using a 2 part resin will make the fixing part of the wall as apposed to a sleave bolt which will weaken and worst case cause the breeze block to crumble and your plasma becoming a house insurance no claims loser. It seems Jon Boy has limited experience in fitting plasmas to walls.
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Old 21-03-2006, 4:11 PM   #6
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arrr yes my mistake on the rawl plug comment and i do appologise , however a sleeve anchor bolt is an excellent fixing for a plasma and id say by far the most popular , i hung a 50" pioneer plasma for a fellow member a few months back and its a s solid as a rock! i d say the number of people that use resin is very limited although it is an option

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Old 21-03-2006, 4:14 PM   #7
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Hello everybody,
Thanks for your replay.
Are you sure that sleeve anchor or wall plug+coach screw can be reliable directly on plaster (No concrete or other materials in the back of the panel)?
Maybe I'm wrong but I have not found any similar condition in the previous threads.
I don't know too much technical terms in english so probably I was not able to describe which kind of wall I'm going to work on.
Please Find attached a picture of the plaster panel I tried to describe.
I have to install the bracket directly on this panel and I quite warried about it.
Basically it is a three-cornered structure created in the middle of the living room. There are shelfs (niches) on 2 sides and the third one is for the plasma. It's not possible to enter inside the structure.

Hoping that it can give you a more clear picture of my situation and help you to help me.
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Old 21-03-2006, 6:25 PM   #8
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That is not something that I think is used over here, if it's made of plaster as you suggest I would be very worried about trying to hang anything heavy off it.
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Old 21-03-2006, 9:32 PM   #9
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Agreed , i dont think i've seen anything like that in England before??

Please note advice that i have given is all in my own opinion and is only advised for brick , breezeblock / dry lined walls.

Can you get to the back of the wall morgan? If so you could use some threaded rod and go right through the whole wall?

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Old 23-03-2006, 1:26 PM   #10
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Unfortunately I can't get to the back. The structure is completely sealed.
I have been able to contact the architect who has designed the interior.
He assured me that those panels can support a plasma installation.
On Saturday I'm going to start the job. God bless me!
Finally, I have choosen a chemical fixing.
Maybe I'll post some picture of the result.
Sooner or later someone in England would be facing the same problem.
Italian style goes everywhere.
Thanks Jon.

Bye
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Old 23-03-2006, 4:13 PM   #11
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I think the chemical idea is best as it won't exert expansion on your material, good luck!!

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