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Old 30-01-2009, 10:55 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Quality CCTV help

Hi all.
In the process of a new build and i want to add CCTV.
What i am looking for -

4x High Quality Cameras(maybe upto 6)
DVR Recorder
Watch all 4 cameras on my TV via RF
and the ability to watch over the net (ip cameras?)

Can anyone recomend any sites or info on this and is it possible?
Im really looking fo rnice quality images.

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Old 31-01-2009, 7:52 AM   #2 (permalink)
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Hi all.
In the process of a new build and i want to add CCTV.
What i am looking for -

4x High Quality Cameras(maybe upto 6)
DVR Recorder
Watch all 4 cameras on my TV via RF
and the ability to watch over the net (ip cameras?)

Can anyone recomend any sites or info on this and is it possible?
Im really looking fo rnice quality images.

Thanks

If you want to go down the PC DVR route, have a look at Geovision. I've had a couple of their cards over the years and they are pretty reliable (if you follow their advise on PC spec).
I've currently got a GV-1240 card. 8 cameras in, RF out to a modulator for the TV's round the house, and the facility to stream video over the net.


Further reading

Digital Video Surveillance System V GeoVision Inc.

Geovision Digital Surveillance systems and CCTV cameras - Ezcctv

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Old 31-01-2009, 9:21 AM   #3 (permalink)
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Cheers,
That looks really good.
Will take a look later and other sugestions welcome.
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Old 05-02-2009, 1:27 PM   #4 (permalink)
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Hello

Theres a company called Sayoro i think that maybe worth a look at
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most DVR's have ethernet for remote viewing these days some via secure server some via your own VPN. IP cams are great but not easy to view on TV's via RF in fact RF distribution is rarely used these days its cheaper than video distribution but we often install CCTV as part of larger systems which take care of the CCTV distribution you get what you pay for with CCTV night time performance is often the critical feature missing from cheaper cams. Also the ability to easily access and replay events.
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most DVR's have ethernet for remote viewing these days some via secure server some via your own VPN. IP cams are great but not easy to view on TV's via RF in fact RF distribution is rarely used these days its cheaper than video distribution but we often install CCTV as part of larger systems which take care of the CCTV distribution you get what you pay for with CCTV night time performance is often the critical feature missing from cheaper cams. Also the ability to easily access and replay events.
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Can you reccomend any makes of DVR that have the ability to watch over the net?
I can use a rf modulator to feed the signal into the tv distribution system, i know its never going to be great but its just handy.

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You get what you pay for... HDD reliability and ethernet are what your after.
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Can you reccomend any makes of DVR that have the ability to watch over the net?
I can use a rf modulator to feed the signal into the tv distribution system, i know its never going to be great but its just handy.

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Honeywell are very reliable and priced reasonably too. If you have lots of money go for a dedicated micros DS2.
For your outdoor day nights go for some vantage IR domes.
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Old 09-02-2009, 7:55 PM   #9 (permalink)
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Re: Quality CCTV help

im trying to achieve something similiar to what your after.

I have a cctv recorder in the garage, which outputs coax into a video sender which works on 5ghz so not to interfere with the wireless round my house.
The receiver end plugs onto a rf modulator which in turn is going to be connected to a loftbox so to distrubute to 4 tvs around the house.

Problem is i havent got any F connectots at the moment. Also not entirely sure whether this is going to work but i thought it would be fun to try.

Anyone got any other ideas on how to achieve this???
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Old 16-02-2009, 6:47 PM   #10 (permalink)
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How about the old style Video Senders , I have three of them from years ago , 12v systems that take an audio and video input and will beam it to any TV arial or anything that has a tuner , old sat system or video recorder or TV .They were ilegal a long time ago but I believe that was relaxed .With a TV card in your PC and a ariel in the socket ,you would be able to pickup the signal .An indoor arial is all thats needed.With the advent of Freeview nobody uses the in built tuners anymore .
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I've read enough about this to realise I need professional help here:-). I see hornydragon is an advertiser here and my question is directed towards him. Could you assist and quote me for my setup? I'd prefer handling this privately if you do not mind?

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You could also take a look at Dynamic CCTV.

Good stuff on-line and you can always phone for advice. We have used their kit on a couple of jobs with good results.
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thanks, one of the more user friendly website I've been on. One thing surprises me a great deal. Megapixels is the same as resolution right? Why is it so low? Even the high end sets seem to be less than 1 megapixel.

edit: I should rephrase this as: why is this so low with analogue CCTV camera's. Only IP camera's seem to offer a good resolution...

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I've read enough about this to realise I need professional help here:-)

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What are you trying to say ?

Were all professionals on here , my 1950's valve TV with an coat hanger for an arial gives superb results with the sender and I have a state of the art 'Betamax' recorder to capture the images . If you need any professional help .just ask :-)
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Re: Quality CCTV help

Perhaps I worded it a little clumsy. I'm looking for someone to give me advice and then supply me with all the bits and pieces I need.

This is how far I've gotten: Our driveway is rectangular and measures 6,05 metres wide by 16,80 metres long. Actually it's more like 3,25 by 16,80 but (when facing the street) there is a patch which is 2,80 metres wide beginning at metre 9 until metre 16,80 where one of our cars is parked. I've uploaded a drawing here:


  • The blue filled circle is where I want to put 2 camera's: one should keep an eye out for the green parking spot area beginning at metre 9 and, if possible, the entire width (6,05 metres) of the drive way. Identifying potential car vandals is at the top of the list here even at night.
  • The second one will be aimed alongside our main door and should not reach further than 9 metres. So basically, it shouldn't record what the parking spot camera is already recording.
I like the resolution IP camera's provide but they seem a tad expensive. I don't like the composite feed from analogue camera's but perhaps it is possbible to use S-video or even component? In any case apart from mains the video signal has to be transported wireless or by using existing mains cabling.

Recording will be done on a computer and will be archived to a 2 disk NAS station (1 terabyte disk space). I'm aiming to keep the recordings for one month.
I have no clue as to which capture card to use. I'm also don't know about the software.

If I forgot some details, please feel free to ask!
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