Phone distribution

[Gez_pw6]

Hi,

The house is wired with cat5 and terminated in a patch panel. I now want to use some of the RJ45 ports for telephone. What do I need to conect/split the BT master socket to provide me with a number of ports to patch to the patch panel? I am aware that I can only have 4 extensions (REN4). Or can this number be increased?

Thanks
Gerard

[961]

Originally Posted by Gez_pw6

Hi,

The house is wired with cat5 and terminated in a patch panel. I now want to use some of the RJ45 ports for telephone. What do I need to conect/split the BT master socket to provide me with a number of ports to patch to the patch panel? I am aware that I can only have 4 extensions (REN4). Or can this number be increased?

Thanks
Gerard

You may find some useful info at

http://www.readman.dsl.pipex.com/oth...ecatwiring.htm

I can vouch for the NTE5 faceplate to replace the front of the standard BT master socket. My speed went from 2.2mbps to 3.7

No of extensions depends on quality of BT incoming, often you can get more than 4 ren. We have 6 which includes a sky box. Again, good wiring within the house may well help as well as removing the bell ring wire as detailed in above link

[picotto]

The wall point is easy, you can either just change the face plate to a normal RJ11 based one and using the blue and orange pairs wire up: Dark blue to pin 2 light blue to pin 5 and dark orange to pin 3 just dick off light orange not needed!

At the patch end i can only tell you the way we do it. Ie BT way. You need another patch rack and something like a Box con 250/5 http://www.telephonesuk.co.uk/images/box_con_250.jpg. Between these two you can either run a multi core cable (like a 50 pair) or (not the proper way) You could just run cat5 from each port on the rack to krone strip in the box. At this end you need to off bought a feed from your Master LJU and put this on to another krone strip. Then just run a bit of jumper wire between each pair ie blue. You'll then end up with a load of ports on this new rack pressenting your telephone line which can then be patched around your home. With out writing your an essay i can't really think of a way of telling you all this simply. Hence why i'm only a phone engineer! lol

[Gez_pw6]

Thanks for the replys.

I am fine on the network point of the connection.

What I really need info on is the patch panel connection end.

I only need about 4 ports configured for phone.

I have found the following which would cover all my future needs, http://www.tlc-direct.co.uk/Products/GPAC6.html.

How do I wire this?

Is this correct?

1) From the rear of the patch panel do I connect the blue pair for each port to the krone strip.

2) Bring a feed from the LJU to the other krone strip and link all the connecters on this strip to the feed.

3) Jumper the blue pair for each port to the LJU krone strip.

Would this also work for ADSL or do I need more pairs connected?

Thanks
Gerard

[nickp8]

What I have done is from the NTE5 master socket run a cat5e cable from the NTE5 faceplate to the patch panel. The cable is terminated on to the first port on the patch panel. Ports 1-4 are interconnected on the patch panel so I then have 4 voice ports. I can then use a patch lead to patch voice to whichever ports I want on the patch panel.

Have you got any spare ports on your patch panel to do the above?

If you have ADSL or plan to have ADSL run a cat5e cable from the master NTE5 to the location of the patch panel. Fit a second NTE5 socket. Use a filtered faceplate on that socket. The ADSL jack on the filtered faceplace can be used for the modem / router. You can then patch internet throuh to whatever ports you want on the patch panel using a patch lead.

Use the filtered voice connections on the back of the filtered faceplate to run another cable from faceplate to patch panel for voice. Doing it this way means you wont need filters at any of the other sockets around the house you use for voice.

NTE5 socket / filtered faceplate can be bought from: http://www.clarity.it/xcart/product....cat=262&page=1

http://www.avforums.com/forums/showp...95&postcount=6

[neilball]

Originally Posted by Gez_pw6

Hi,

The house is wired with cat5 and terminated in a patch panel. I now want to use some of the RJ45 ports for telephone. What do I need to conect/split the BT master socket to provide me with a number of ports to patch to the patch panel? I am aware that I can only have 4 extensions (REN4). Or can this number be increased?

Thanks
Gerard

You may be able to have many more than 4 devices connected, most modern kit uses far less than 1 REN but they are still listed at 1 REN as they cannot show fractions/decimals.

Depending on how many connections you want to make then it could be easier to keep it simple by using a BT socket splitters plugged into the master socket than then BT-RJ45 patch leads to the patch panel - very simple to put together and easy to disconnect if you have any problems/faults to trace. This is what I did as I mainly use DECT wirless phones around the house so only had 2 hard-wired phone connections to make.

The alterntivie (as other posters have indicated) requires some spare ports on the patch panel and requires you to common the connections across several ports - simply punch down cable across all pin 1 then pin 2 etc. You use as many ports as you need for telephone handsets/kit. You only actually need to common up the BT pin 2 & 5 cables as these are all that are used by modern equipment.

At the room end you then simply use the appropriate RJ45-BT baluns to allow you to connect your telephones.

[Fulltopuk]

Try this.

http://www.minitran.co.uk/pages/prod...ice%20Panel%22