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05-02-2008, 12:17 AM
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Hi guys,
Please go easy with me, as I'm a complete n00b at this.
I have several things hooked up to this little light device I got from B&Q. It's a "Home Easy" kit. It controls my ceiling light, my ceiling fan, both my side lights on the speakers and the blue neon glow behind the TV. I'd like to use the Harmony One remote to do this rather than the remote that came with the kit.
I believe it sends a RF signal (so my step-dad said), and I don't believe the Harmony One can send these...
Is there any sort of device that converts the signal? So it can accept infa-red and then output the RF signal? I might be dreaming, but I would have thought these devices existed.
Is something like this possible?
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05-02-2008, 5:52 PM
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Anyone?
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06-02-2008, 10:18 PM
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07-02-2008, 3:34 PM
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10-02-2008, 5:22 AM
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10-02-2008, 8:19 AM
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My googling shows no sign of RF on the Harmony One. Talk is of a RF enabled model in the future. I'm pretty sure you can buy IR to X10 modules but I don't think that would work with your Home Easy equipment. Others may know otherwise tho.
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11-02-2008, 9:04 AM
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Sorry Kryptix, missed you post.
The RF in Harmonys is unique to the remotes and thier base stations. It is not a generic RF signal that can be used to talk to third party systems.
V.
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11-02-2008, 1:28 PM
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Is there no device that can accept an infra-red signal and then forward a RF signal? Surely?
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12-02-2008, 1:30 PM
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I'll put you out of your misery. There is no way of doing this. You will never intergate those lights with a remote at all, even one that can emit RF, you cannot learn RF commands. Some lighting systems use Z-wave, and publish the code for z wave compatible devices to use. Harmony 895 being one of them. The other Rf lighting system to look at is Rako, they produce modules for all sorts of control integration. All of these a re a big pile more cash than B&Q, and this is why. Cos they have to put a lot of effort into making the stuff compatible, making it suitable for custom install. It all costs money, and someone's gotta pay. Sorry.
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12-02-2008, 4:48 PM
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Originally Posted by vex Sorry Kryptix, missed you post.
The RF in Harmonys is unique to the remotes and thier base stations. It is not a generic RF signal that can be used to talk to third party systems.
V. | Well actually its Zwave and can work Zwave lights, home easy is proprietry RF and unless thay make an IR interface you cant do what you want, Rako prodce a IR interface for there ligthing
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23-05-2008, 9:58 AM
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The Home Easy recievers have a learning sytem,
They can all learn up to 6 rf signals.
Now i have not tried it but you could try pressing the learn button on the Home Easy reciever and send an rf signal from your remote that you wish to use and just hope for the best.
I have managed to pair up My Home Easy reciever to an old Byron rf remote. But am unsure if the advanced rf signals from a more elaberate remote would pair.
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23-05-2008, 3:39 PM
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Hi Kryptix
The X10 product range has an IR to RF signal converter. I beleive its the IR543. Not sure whether it sends RF signals or passes signals thru your existing mainsd wiring but it definately works with IR remotes if you get the converter. Search it out on t'web.
Kev
EDIT: this thread is pretty good although US. informative about X10 http://forums.logitech.com/logitech/...essage.id=9752. i'll post more soon if i find it as i will be doing exactly the same using a Harmony One
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02-10-2008, 10:59 AM
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as updates ? as I'm in the same boat
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03-10-2008, 12:42 AM
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Originally Posted by fasterfords as updates ? as I'm in the same boat  | What you require to automate your appliances or lamps are these X10 products: IR7243W
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One or more of these: AM12 LM12
The harmony database already includes all the necessary codes to operate these.
The remote sends an infared signal to the IR7243W, which then converts to an electrical signal which is sent through your mains wiring all round the house to wherever you have the AM12 or LM12 plugged in.
I have used the very same devices for years successfully with a range of Harmony remotes, including my recently obtained Harmony One.
I also use these wall switches, LW10U
Hope this helps.
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03-10-2008, 1:45 PM
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If you are VERY determined to do it, there is a long-winded way.
RFXCOM is an USB device (network version available) that transmits RF signal, which works with HomeEasy. USB-UIRT is an USB device that can receive IR signals, which can be configured to work with any remote. Bringing the two together on a PC, with a little bit of programming/configuration (probably with the help or xPL or xAP), you can get this to work.
But yea probably not worth all the effort.
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