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Old 11-07-2005, 8:19 AM   #1 (permalink)
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User Capabilities of Lutron Homeworks Software

Hello

I'm considering purchasing a Lutron Homeworks system and would be very keen to understand the capabilities an end user has to "program" scenes and so on.

Once the system has been setup by the installer are you able to do things yourself such as:-

1. Change the pre-set dimming levels of individual circuits in a scene.
2. Add or remove circuits from a scene.
3. Activate automated lighting when going away on holiday for example.

Any other general comments regarding what you can do vs what the specialist installer has to do would be much appreciated.

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Old 11-07-2005, 3:18 PM   #2 (permalink)
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The Homeworks software is only available to trained installers, Lutron do not make this available to end users. It still seems that Lutron do not see the need for a "user" package to allow the scenes to be reprogrammed etc, so your only option is to use your installer to make the necessary modifications. As long as you are installing the new processors and have a fixed IP then this can all be done over the net so does not need the engineer to be onsite to make the changes.

Regarding point 3 (vacation mode) it is normally operated automatically by a volt-free contact from the security alarm so does not need to be invoked from a software setting. If your alarm does not have the necessary outputs then you could use a keypad by the main door or even a simple switch.

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Old 11-07-2005, 4:54 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Rako can do all of that with out the need for a central pc or the cost.

www.rakocontrols.co.uk fyi
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Old 13-07-2005, 1:05 PM   #4 (permalink)
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Thanks for the info. I do find it a little odd that Lutron considering programming to be too difficult or too "dangerous" for a user to do. Having seen some screen shots of the application I just can't believe its that difficult to change the pre-set levels or add circuits to scenes.

Has anyone had any luck in trying to get the software from either their installer or Lutron direct ?

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Old 30-11-2006, 11:56 AM   #5 (permalink)
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Re: User Capabilities of Lutron Homeworks Software

I know this thread is old, but thought I'd post some thoughts for anyone considering homeworks in the uK, having just gone through installation.

1. do not rely on the Lutron site for information on what service and back-up you get - I assumed what I read on the lutron website was accurate for the UK market, having accessed the UK web site to see what the full product offering was. So I did not tie down the after sales care with the installer, it seemed clearly explained on the web, and looked a sound proposition. The site I'm told refers principally to the service offered in the US, I am told and is not the standard support offered in the UK. So if you are considering installation, make sure you get clear on how the product will be supported after installation. Your question was on programming - on the main Lutron site, and indeed on the various blogs I read, minor programming changes are indicated as part of after sales care provided for in the initial purchase - so imagine my surprise at being charged @£750 a day by the installer for some minor tweaks (and I do mean minor) as we attempt to get the initial set up right (that is, I've had the two standard days, it needs tweaks, but that is what I'm told it will cost me, even with the remote access set up and working). The two days programming for the initial install was not really what I as someone who can afford such a system would call a day - pitch up at 10-30am, gone by 2pm without checking all was ok, so not surprising it needs some TLC.

2. make sure you get an explanation of the vagaries of the lights used. I have been left without lights outside for days on end, where the external sodium lights were accidentally switched off and back on (most of us have children...), tripping the system, and the dealer failed to return calls to allow me to reset the outside lights.

3. The functionality appears great, but you appear to get little of it in the price you pay - everything is extra, though you assume when paying £20,000+ for an integrated system that advertises links to security systems etc that you are paying for the functionality advertised. My approved dealer claims it is not, even though all this was discussed at the outset, and was a selling point to me.

4. The engraving is free, but you have to known what you want each buttons to do and name them before you install, before you can go in the room and try settings and combinations out, otherwise you pay for new face plates, or do without lights for the weeks and weeks it takes to engrave.

And the cost - you appear to pay in £ at 2-1 the $ price, that is US$1 = £2, not the rate you might see advertised at Travelex of $2 to £1.

Any Lutron dealers out there prepared to tell me I've been had and offer advice as to what I should expect, or is this how it is? Anyone at Lutron want to step in and make a customer happy, who has paid a huge sum to have his wife lecture him about the merits of a simple switch?
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Old 18-02-2007, 10:08 PM   #6 (permalink)
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Re: User Capabilities of Lutron Homeworks Software

Lutron Homeworks is a very good system. I had it installed by their representatives which working with has been terrible. The first one went out of business before completeing the system The second Lutron representative had trouble with any muliple switched circuits plus other items that can be done with their system
The software is well done and is not very difficult to program with. In fact simplier than using programs like EXcel.
In my opinion, Lutron has a good system but does not have good representatives suporting them and will likely loose the business to first company that supplies as good a product but is more Customer oriented.

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Old 19-02-2007, 3:05 PM   #7 (permalink)
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Re: User Capabilities of Lutron Homeworks Software

I've dealt with Lutron and there products are excellent, but I have not had a a great experience with their professional staff. I would recommend iLight, who virtually have the same products and provide excellent support.

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Old 24-02-2007, 11:59 AM   #8 (permalink)
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Re: User Capabilities of Lutron Homeworks Software

Most "homeworks" customers would prefer to just get someone else to do any programming changes, and not even blink at £750 per day.

The fact is that homeworks is capable of complex functions. Lutron and their dealers will not want end-users to be able to just go in and mess up the programming. It causes too many "it doesn't work, get here and fix it" complaints. But I'm sure there are many who could/would take on the responsibility of using the software. It's just not Lutron's policy to do so.

If you want the same functionality for less money AND be able to program it yourself, then there other solutions. iLight is a good alternative, but I am biased of course
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