[Mr Noble]

Just disconnected my gas cooker in preperation for the new electric one coming this afternoon, removal was fairly simple as it was a bayonet connector .

Which intailed pushing in the black pipe and twisting to remove from the bayonet fitting, so the hob is now in the back garden awaiting collection.

New cooker is Electric so will not be plugged into the pipe at the wall, now i've switched the gas on at the main's and can't smell any gas coming from the bayonet fitting on the wall so am on the understanding that the fitting is self-sealing , but need reasurance on how to check for leak's , any advice?

[Billo]

soapy water, if it's leaking then it will start blowing bubbles.
Don't forget that the electric cooker should be on it's own 30Amp circuit and should be installed, or at least checked, by a qualified electrician

[Mr Noble]

Originally Posted by Billo

soapy water, if it's leaking then it will start blowing bubbles.
Don't forget that the electric cooker should be on it's own 30Amp circuit and should be installed, or at least checked, by a qualified electrician

yeah it is being fitted by an electrician , my main issue is the bayonet fitting on the wall , so is it self sealing ? i can't smell any gas so i presume it is ?

cheers for the advice i'll get the washing up liquid out

[fortean]

I used to use a match. Sounds dangerous doesn't it. The thing is that the gas will only burn outside of the pipe as it needs oxygen. Usually there's not even enough gas to sustain a flame and you just get a popping sound as any leak ignites then goes out. You should only do this though if the room is well ventilated, in case there's a build up of gas in the room, and you are sure the pipe is under pressure, otherwise there could be air in the pipe too.

[Mr Noble]

Originally Posted by fortean

I used to use a match. Sounds dangerous doesn't it. The thing is that the gas will only burn outside of the pipe as it needs oxygen. Usually there's not even enough gas to sustain a flame and you just get a popping sound as any leak ignites then goes out. You should only do this though if the room is well ventilated, in case there's a build up of gas in the room, and you are sure the pipe is under pressure, otherwise there could be air in the pipe too.

lol i'll think i'll stick to the washing up liquid

before i removed the cooker i switched of the gas at the main's and turned the oven on to remove any remaining gas from the pipe just done the washing up liquid test and no bubble's *phew*

[harty23]

Is there a benefit in having an electric cooker over a gas 1 then? Hope thats not very dense of me. lol

[rickinyorkshire]

Originally Posted by harty23

Is there a benefit in having an electric cooker over a gas 1 then? Hope thats not very dense of me. lol

I have always thought Gas > Electric? Don't electric cookers take a while to get hot etc?

[fortean]

I think it may be a hob the OP is replacing. Electric hobs can be easier to keep clean than gas hobs. I think you can also get halogen hobs and other types that are as controllable as gas. The favourite seems to be a gas hob and an electric oven.

[eric pisch]

Originally Posted by fortean

I think it may be a hob the OP is replacing. Electric hobs can be easier to keep clean than gas hobs. I think you can also get halogen hobs and other types that are as controllable as gas. The favourite seems to be a gas hob and an electric oven.

myth and myth imo

halogen is better for controllability over other electric type hobs but the surface stays hot for a long time and is no way as quick to respond as a gas hob

we ripped our halogen hob out after giving up trying to clean it, anything that splashes near the heating element carbonises and bonds to the surface, our stainless hob is just a wipe down after use since the heat is well above the surface

to the OP dont you need to be corgi registered to legally touch gas now?

[fortean]

Originally Posted by eric pisch

to the OP dont you need to be corgi registered to legally touch gas now?

Not if it's his own house. If it's rented though then he can't do it unless he's registered.

[mrm3]

Having had halogen, gas and now induction. I think induction is the best.

Very quick to heat things up. Instant heat to the pan.

Cold to touch (safe if children around). Only heats the pan.

Very efficient. 80-90% comapred to 40% gas.

Only negative is you need to make sure you have pans that are induction compatible. Most decent new pans are.

[fortean]

Originally Posted by mrm3

Having had halogen, gas and now induction. I think induction is the best.

I'd never heard of them. Had a read about them. Apparantly dangerous if you have a pacemaker I assume you don't have a pacemaker

We use a wok quite a lot so probably not very good for us.

[IronGiant]

I bekieve the current regs are still:

the Gas Safety (Installation and Use) regulations 1998, which state that:

"No person shall carry out any work in relation to a gas fitting or gas storage vessel unless he is competent to do so."

which for now means CORGI registered.

However, they also specifically state that:

" work in relation to a gas fitting....does not include the connection or disconnection of a bayonet fitting or other self-sealing connector."

So you can do it, but if you're not happy/it leaks you need a CORGI registered fitter to put it right.

Dave

[fortean]

Originally Posted by IronGiant

"No person shall carry out any work in relation to a gas fitting or gas storage vessel unless he is competent to do so."

If he does a competent job for himself then it's OK. The key word is 'competent'. The CORGI registration is to prove to others that may employ you that you are competent.

[Mr Noble]

Originally Posted by rickinyorkshire

I have always thought Gas > Electric? Don't electric cookers take a while to get hot etc?

Don't ask me mate the missus does the cooking , i just provide the funds for the ingredients , what one requires one shall recieve and all that polava,

Well the new cooker hasn't been fitted as when the guy came out to fit it he put his little tester in the socket , and it tripped the electrics down stairs , tried it in another 2 sockets and still kept tripping , guy say's i'm not fitting it until you get a second opinion as i'm not happy and put it back on the Van .

So called out a sparky got him to check the electrics at a cost of £80 notes , all fine and got a report stating so , electrician said these van drivers are useless put a RCB ( think thats what he called it) in their hands and they think they are professional electricians, heres the report and my number any problems with him get him to call me , i'll sort him out

Moral of the story don't buy a cooker from currys

[mrm3]

Originally Posted by fortean

I'd never heard of them. Had a read about them. Apparantly dangerous if you have a pacemaker I assume you don't have a pacemaker

We use a wok quite a lot so probably not very good for us.

We use a wok too. Just has a wider base. Plus you can get the induction hob that that is a countersunk dome. Looks cool.


PS No pacemaker yet.

[jasonf01]

I like the look and thought of induction hobs, but after hearing forteans comment about pacemakers, im wondering if theres any other side effects?

Eg, Hard drives nearby being wiped, loudspeakers being affected, CRTs etc, rings/keyrings etc?

I dont have any of these near my hob (and dont yet have a pacemaker), but it would be nice to know the side effects on this relatively new tech.

As for the OP, Im going to go with what IronGiant said, providing the gas regs are as quoted (and they probably are), and the same interpretation - you can connect/disconnect bayonet fittings but if theres any failure of a fitting, and/or gas leaking as a result its time to call in your local corgis.

Hmmm...makes me wonder if the queens dogs do gas fitting for a living.

Jas.

[Phil57]

Guys, CORGI is no more it's now.........Gas Safe Register - make sure your gas engineer is registered

[neilios]

Originally Posted by IronGiant

I bekieve the current regs are still:

the Gas Safety (Installation and Use) regulations 1998, which state that:

"No person shall carry out any work in relation to a gas fitting or gas storage vessel unless he is competent to do so."

which for now means CORGI registered.

However, they also specifically state that:

" work in relation to a gas fitting....does not include the connection or disconnection of a bayonet fitting or other self-sealing connector."

So you can do it, but if you're not happy/it leaks you need a CORGI registered fitter to put it right.

Dave

Thats rulings for cleaning behind a cooker ,we are supposed to put an iron plug where the bayonet was if the gas supply is to be made redundant .

[RuddyRoad]

Originally Posted by H3AD_SH0TZ

Moral of the story don't buy a cooker from currys

Don't get me started about their installers....see my thread elsewhere if you are interested

[sianba]

If it was me i would check with insurance, as if not done right and house blew up would you still be insured, there no harm in checking, so why take the risk not knowing if you have insurance.

Si

[Mr Noble]

Originally Posted by sianba

If it was me i would check with insurance, as if not done right and house blew up would you still be insured, there no harm in checking, so why take the risk not knowing if you have insurance.

Si

If the house blew up how would i put a claim in