[stoomc]

Originally Posted by IL Cattivo

I don't think at my age now I have it in me to that kind of workout regime again.

That's the thing though- you have just done a similar thing recently, e.g dropped 2 stone and gained muscle.

[IL Cattivo]

Originally Posted by stooshee

That's the thing though- you have just done a similar thing recently, e.g dropped 2 stone and gained muscle.

Indeed, but my body had the advantage this time round of having done it before, just not to the same extreme. When I did it the first time (6 years ago), that really was mental fella... I hadn't been a member of a gym before and really wanted to justify the membership fee, thus my rather OTT effort.

Also I don't think I let myself get too overweight and out of condition this time round to the point that I propably didn't need to put in a superhuman effort to get to where I am today. Don't get me wrong though, I still work hard every session, just not to the extreme's of the past.

I'm glad I made that executive decision that enough was enough and began my current regime at the begining of the year, as the way I was going I could be well in excess of 14st even 15st right now which really would need a monumental effort to lose weight while at the same time retain / gain muscle.

Perservearance pays stooshee, everyones different and for some it takes longer to reach their ultimate goals than others. nwgarrat is a great example of this and someone I actually admire more than my own achievments due to where he came from to where he is now. <not worthy bow>

[Foster]

it is fair to say my legs are sore this afternoon after the leg workout yesterday.

[nwgarratt]

I have decided to post my weight loss progress.

Weight loss

[GBDG1]

I'm getting some problems with my shoulder at the moment, and i'm not sure what to do. Unsure if i've got an injury or if it's something else. I've been on holiday for a few days, so I thought the break would solve it, but doing incline bench press today it started to be sore again.

I don't get any pain except when i'm lifting and it's only really a problem when doing something that's shoulder intensive. Any ideas about what to do?

[limblee]

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[mossym]

Originally Posted by GBDG1

I'm getting some problems with my shoulder at the moment, and i'm not sure what to do. Unsure if i've got an injury or if it's something else. I've been on holiday for a few days, so I thought the break would solve it, but doing incline bench press today it started to be sore again.

I don't get any pain except when i'm lifting and it's only really a problem when doing something that's shoulder intensive. Any ideas about what to do?

i'd be thinking a physio trip, get them to have a look at it, might be something simple like a strain which a massage/dose of electro shock therapy would solve.

[Desmo]

Originally Posted by limblee

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As for me, I managed to get down the gym for the first time in three weeks last night. Felt great

[Desmo]

Originally Posted by GBDG1

I'm getting some problems with my shoulder at the moment, and i'm not sure what to do. Unsure if i've got an injury or if it's something else. I've been on holiday for a few days, so I thought the break would solve it, but doing incline bench press today it started to be sore again.

I don't get any pain except when i'm lifting and it's only really a problem when doing something that's shoulder intensive. Any ideas about what to do?

Hard to say really. Does the pain disappear quickly when you stop training or does it linger on a little?

[GBDG1]

Originally Posted by Desmo

Hard to say really. Does the pain disappear quickly when you stop training or does it linger on a little?

Yup, only hurts when under tension.

Will look into a physio, although never been to one before.

[Desmo]

Does it feel more muscular or deeper in to the joint? If its muscular then a decent physio session should sort you out. If it's more than that then it could be more down to form and causing more long term damage within the joint.

[GBDG1]

Originally Posted by Desmo

Does it feel more muscular or deeper in to the joint? If its muscular then a decent physio session should sort you out. If it's more than that then it could be more down to form and causing more long term damage within the joint.

Feels deeper than muscular if I had to guess, but hard to tell.

I've been aware for a while that I need to check my form. I'm doing weights 5 days a week and not lifting an insignificant weight. Don't really know what to do about it, the PTs at my gym are all "lifestyle" trainers, they seem to be all about making people stand on rubber balls and doing "TRX" rather than weights.

I try to make sure i'm doing things right by checking videos, and I suspect i'm not doing anything too horrific, as i've not had an injury up to this point. But at the same time, doing something slightly wrong will compound over time and cause issues down the line...

[Steven]

Originally Posted by GBDG1

Will look into a physio, although never been to one before.

NHS could assist or local uni may hold a weekly clinic (not that you should delay a week if your body is telling you otherwise. Pain = stop)

[mossym]

Originally Posted by GBDG1

Yup, only hurts when under tension.

Will look into a physio, although never been to one before.

my comment about electro shock therapy may have seemed a bit flippant then, but they actually use current pulses through damaged muscles to repair them, when i tore ligaments in my ankle playing football i had it 3 times a week for the first two weeks, it's pretty incredible how much it healed after 1 session, was on crutches going in, was almost able to walk normally after the first session. of course the guy rotating my ankle until there was a loud crack in the room could also have been the cause. he seemed happy with it though so i figured he must be good, he was the chief physio for the san jose sharks NHL team so i figured i'd trust him..

[mossym]

Originally Posted by Steven

. Pain = stop)

yup, only back on weights at the weekend cause i pulled something in my back lifting a sun bed in spain two weeks before, wanted it fully healed before i did anything more than cardio, although i did swim

[GBDG1]

Originally Posted by Steven

NHS could assist or local uni may hold a weekly clinic (not that you should delay a week if your body is telling you otherwise. Pain = stop)

Thanks.

Although I disagree that pain = stop. Because if it doesn't hurt at all, you're not doing it right.

[Steven]

Pain, not normal lactic acid burn or muscle soreness that eases with time

[sammy the squid]

Originally Posted by GBDG1

Thanks.

Although I disagree that pain = stop. Because if it doesn't hurt at all, you're not doing it right.

2 types of pain/feeling:

1) pain- musular /joint stress-pain through rigorous exercise which will dissappear after a duration of time (non injury)

2) pain - muscular/joint stress pain (injury) - this pain is prsent due to a joint or muscular injury.

I'd guess Steven is talking about Pain number 2 whereas you're referring to pain type 1

[sammy the squid]

Originally Posted by Steven

Pain, not normal lactic acid burn or muscle soreness that eases with time

You've beaten me to it

[CoolBreeze9]

Originally Posted by GBDG1

I'm getting some problems with my shoulder at the moment, and i'm not sure what to do. Unsure if i've got an injury or if it's something else. I've been on holiday for a few days, so I thought the break would solve it, but doing incline bench press today it started to be sore again.

I don't get any pain except when i'm lifting and it's only really a problem when doing something that's shoulder intensive. Any ideas about what to do?

Which shoulder is it? 1 or both? When doing incline bench press, do you use dumbells, barbell or a smith machine?

I get some intense pain in my left shoulder very often too in the frontal deltoid area and between the joint linking shoulder and chest, only under load. It seems very much like what you are experiencing. I tend to get it when doing chest exercises, even flat chest press.

I do incline and flat press with dumbells and I made a little adjustment to the way I hold the dumbells and it has made a big difference. Instead of holding the dumbells with palms facing forwards, I now twist my wrists slightly so that my palms are facing inwards at an angle slightly. I don't recall the last time I felt that pain doing the presses this way. I've never worried about this problem though, even when I was feeling pain and there is a reason for it.

Here's the thing, I got/get that really intense pain also when doing unilateral tricep exercises like downward extensions with a handle or just the ball on the cable machine and also on kickbacks. Never when doing extensions with an EZ-bar or overhead rope and always after the muscle is fatigued (not in the first couple sets) and always in the left. So putting 2+2 together, it leads me to believe that when my left tricep is fatigued, much earlier than my right (because my right is much stronger) I start to compensate with the shoulder. I've pushed my right to the limit as well to test it and found that I do get the same pain, but for me to reach that stage it takes a considerable amount of reps.

I've tried and continue to try very hard with variations in form to try and correct this, but to no avail so far. The only thing I can do is to stop, firstly because it hurts, and secondly and more importantly at that point I'm no longer working the intended muscle.

Apologies for a long'ish reply, but I guess it's all pertinent if it in some way helps you out.

[ggrant]

Made it back to the gym last night for the first time in a week due to literally having no time to get down there.

I obviously struggled as could only do 3k on the treadmill and 8k on the bike. Back to it on Thursday, then Friday and most likely Sunday lol.

[GBDG1]

Originally Posted by CoolBreeze9

Which shoulder is it? 1 or both? When doing incline bench press, do you use dumbells, barbell or a smith machine?

I get some intense pain in my left shoulder very often too in the frontal deltoid area and between the joint linking shoulder and chest, only under load. It seems very much like what you are experiencing. I tend to get it when doing chest exercises, even flat chest press.

I do incline and flat press with dumbells and I made a little adjustment to the way I hold the dumbells and it has made a big difference. Instead of holding the dumbells with palms facing forwards, I now twist my wrists slightly so that my palms are facing inwards at an angle slightly. I don't recall the last time I felt that pain doing the presses this way. I've never worried about this problem though, even when I was feeling pain and there is a reason for it.

Here's the thing, I got/get that really intense pain also when doing unilateral tricep exercises like downward extensions with a handle or just the ball on the cable machine and also on kickbacks. Never when doing extensions with an EZ-bar or overhead rope and always after the muscle is fatigued (not in the first couple sets) and always in the left. So putting 2+2 together, it leads me to believe that when my left tricep is fatigued, much earlier than my right (because my right is much stronger) I start to compensate with the shoulder. I've pushed my right to the limit as well to test it and found that I do get the same pain, but for me to reach that stage it takes a considerable amount of reps.

I've tried and continue to try very hard with variations in form to try and correct this, but to no avail so far. The only thing I can do is to stop, firstly because it hurts, and secondly and more importantly at that point I'm no longer working the intended muscle.

Apologies for a long'ish reply, but I guess it's all pertinent if it in some way helps you out.

Appreciate the reply!

I've been using the bar more at the moment. No real reason for it, just because i've felt like it. I'll move back to dumbells and see if it sorts the problem.

[Desmo]

My god am I aching at the moment. Not sure if it's the new routine or the three week layoff but whatever it is.....it feels good

[sniffer66]

And this afternoon Matthew I'm going to be Bradley Wiggins

I'm riding the Surrey part of the Olympic road race course. Hot but loving it

Of course I'm only doing 5 laps of box hill

[Desmo]

Can you beat his time?

[sniffer66]

Ordinarily yes mate , but not done any cardio for a few weeks due to the vertigo so prolly a few minutes off today

Just did a nice little climb. Views aren't bad !

[BigStu1972]

Originally Posted by GBDG1

Feels deeper than muscular if I had to guess, but hard to tell.

I've been aware for a while that I need to check my form. I'm doing weights 5 days a week and not lifting an insignificant weight. Don't really know what to do about it, the PTs at my gym are all "lifestyle" trainers, they seem to be all about making people stand on rubber balls and doing "TRX" rather than weights.

I try to make sure i'm doing things right by checking videos, and I suspect i'm not doing anything too horrific, as i've not had an injury up to this point. But at the same time, doing something slightly wrong will compound over time and cause issues down the line...

You say it hurts when you do incline bench. Are there any other movements you perform, when you are not lifting, that brings on the pain as well?
For example, can you lift your arms out to the side and rotate them without pain?
I ask as I have suffered with shoulder pain for many years, due mainly to rotator cuff problems.

[BigStu1972]

Originally Posted by sniffer66

Ordinarily yes mate , but not done any cardio for a few weeks due to the vertigo so prolly a few minutes off today

Just did a nice little climb. Views aren't bad !

Looks familiar, its not Newlands Corner is it?

[GBDG1]

Originally Posted by BigStu1972

You say it hurts when you do incline bench. Are there any other movements you perform, when you are not lifting, that brings on the pain as well?
For example, can you lift your arms out to the side and rotate them without pain?
I ask as I have suffered with shoulder pain for many years, due mainly to rotator cuff problems.

Only when lifting, and only with bigger weights of high intensity movement.

[BigStu1972]

Originally Posted by GBDG1

Only when lifting, and only with bigger weights of high intensity movement.

Sounds like its either down to poor form or maybe a good sports/deep tissue massage would help.