Senn PX10 vs Sony ED31s vs Senn CX300

[dashfield]

Sorry to be a pain, as i know some of these headphones have been mentioned on other threads, but i just can't decide on whats best.

They are to go with ipod video, i find the standard headphones very uncomfortable and rubbish with bass. I use my ipod at my desk at work (which means i can't have too much noise leakage) and in the gym (which means it would be good to have something that drowns the stupid music they play in the background )

The cx300 appeal because you all rave about them, but i am worried that in-canal earphones will be uncomfortable for me and not really right for the gym. Some people seem to rate the ED31s well and they look comfy, but others seem to slate Sony's sound and build quality.

Lastly the PX10s look quite comfy, but i am worried they will leak alot of sound, therefore annoying the people sat around me at work and loosing some of the quality.

I couldn't find any of these i the shops today to get an idea of size etc, so really relying on your help guys.

[willy the pimp]

Just purchased the AKGK26P,what a revelation.Difference is like night and day tried the sony in ear broke after a week overpriced crap,The AKG have excellent bass extention,try maddonas latest album,sound leakage is to a minimum.I cant stess enough how chuffed I am with them ,£26.99 inc vat and p&p from nusystems and 2 year warranty.AKG have been making headphones for close on fifty years so they deffinatly must know what they are doing,I know they dont come up on this forum very often it,s usualy senn this and senn that or sony this and that give them a try I guarantee you wont be dissapointed

[dashfield]

Thanks for the heads up about AKG, but they look a little on the big side for the gym. No doubt they would sound great though.

[rozzr]

After hearing a fair amount of praise for the Senn CX300 headphones i decided to buy a pair.

I will let you know my verdict on them sometime soon!!

Thanks

[StevieDvd]

Originally Posted by willy the pimp

Just purchased the AKGK26P,what a revelation.Difference is like night and day tried the sony in ear broke after a week overpriced crap,The AKG have excellent bass extention,try maddonas latest album,sound leakage is to a minimum.I cant stess enough how chuffed I am with them ,£26.99 inc vat and p&p from nusystems and 2 year warranty.AKG have been making headphones for close on fifty years so they deffinatly must know what they are doing,I know they dont come up on this forum very often it,s usualy senn this and senn that or sony this and that give them a try I guarantee you wont be dissapointed

Pleased you got a good pair but before extolling their praise too much people shuld realise there are some good batches of them and some bad. BAd ones are bass bloated and won't improve and get terrible reviews, others like some of the older batches are good.

Have a search here or at head-fi.org before you chance it, unless you can a refund easily.

Steve

[willy the pimp]

Just a short comment on Steviedvd observations on some batches of the akg being base blotted,there must be several factors that come into play when evaluating headphones or speakers.The age of the listener must play a part,as hearing will detoriate with age,the age of the recording was it digitaly recorded or was it an anologue recording.Was a broad spectrum of music used,bass would be of more importance if say you want to listen to rock.Any test has to be subjective,any two people listening to the same headphones would offer a different opinion.Istill think the AKG offer exceptional sound quality for the money,base bloated or not bring it on.Apologies for going on a bit.

[Reano]

Are you saying the e31's are overpriced they are about £17.50 are you thinking of the e81's or 71's. Anyway based on your spec that you want maybe you only have a choice of the e31's or senn. The senn 100 leak too much. The senn cx300 will isolate you quite a lot but do you want to hear the phone ring or a person call your name? If no then go for senn cx300 if yes then go for sony 21's or 31's. Note the 21's are £12.50 from Amazon you just can't go wrong at that price. I have now received some audio technica at 3/4 times the price and I'm going to compare these vs the sony 21's vs senn mx500 and write a review soon.

[dashfield]

Thanks for the replies so far. I wasn't saying the ED31's are too expensive as i think they're pretty cheap. I was just saying that some people on here aren't keen on Sony sound or build quality. But then others say these headphones are great, so it'd hard to know who to believe.

[Reano]

Believe me not them I have only just got a headphone (Audio Technica 7) to challenge it at the moment (for non-isolating in ear) and they are three times the price. Somebody also brought on my recommendation and say they were better than the senn mx550 costing more. What hifi gave them 5 stars when they were in the £20's. For the price £12.50 (see amazon.co.uk) it isn't going to break the bank. So you need to decide whether you can deal with very high isolation (sound) or whether you need to hear noises around you. isolated phones will sound better imho but they are not always practical. You say you need them for work, well I have the shure e5c's and sometimes I'm just lost in the music but I see people looking at me and I realise the phone is ringing ... not good If im in a lab on my own no worries shure e5c everytime but if not then the Sony's (and now maybe the Audio Technica).

The sony's don't hardly leak either. No one around you will hear. Now go and buy them for £12.50 (resistance is futile) and come back saying how good they were or get the Senn cx300. After that, kiss your wallet goodbye ..... as believe it or not there is more sound out there. The sound is out there....... just are you prepared to hear it ........

[dashfield]

Thanks Reano

You've persuaded me. I'll be opting for the Sonys and will let you know how i get on.

[Reano]

You may want to go for the Sony 31's I think £5 more also from Amazon someone here says they are better built and have gold plating on the connectors so go for those. Please come back and comment on them.

[StevieDvd]

Originally Posted by willy the pimp

Just a short comment on Steviedvd observations on some batches of the akg being base blotted,there must be several factors that come into play when evaluating headphones or speakers.The age of the listener must play a part,as hearing will detoriate with age,the age of the recording was it digitaly recorded or was it an anologue recording.Was a broad spectrum of music used,bass would be of more importance if say you want to listen to rock.Any test has to be subjective,any two people listening to the same headphones would offer a different opinion.Istill think the AKG offer exceptional sound quality for the money,base bloated or not bring it on.Apologies for going on a bit.

Hey you calling me old!! - just kidding.
You'll find it hard to get someone over at head-fi to give these a good word. I too defended them based on the pair I still have. And I was up against some of the more well respected members.
I agree with your comments about subjectivity but base my warnings on the AKG26p not on my personal observation but on a weight of evidence. Another member actually tried my pair out and agreed they were OK and then bought a pair himself which he sent straight back as they were completely different.
Since we have a less prolific headphone section here than head-fi.org, where I also join in, it is accepted practice to refer to head-fi for more information, reviews and opinions.
My post was to give balance to any glowing reviews of the AKG26p not out of personal dislike but to give the potential purchaser more information so they can make up their own mind.
You may not have meant it but your response sort infers that I'm getting on a bit and listen to old stuff. I'll have you know I have a broad range of music from trance to classical and from Abba to ZZ Top, my kids (20 & 22) are always borrowing my CDs. But don't worry I'm not offended and this is not a hostile reply to be taken in any manner other than friendly!

Steve

[gerbilly]

Originally Posted by dashfield

Thanks Reano

You've persuaded me. I'll be opting for the Sonys and will let you know how i get on.

Hope you have not bought these sony earphones, the stock i pod earphones are better!!!
The sennheiser phones are far superior.

[dashfield]

Originally Posted by gerbilly

Hope you have not bought these sony earphones, the stock i pod earphones are better!!!
The sennheiser phones are far superior.

I haven't purchased yet, what is wrong with the Sonys?

Which Sennheisers would you suggest?

[gerbilly]

Originally Posted by dashfield

I haven't purchased yet, what is wrong with the Sonys?

Which Sennheisers would you suggest?

The treble on these Sony21 phones are awful. I had them for 4 days and I couldnt stand them. I have the Sennheiser PX100's and they pee all over these in ear sony's. However they leak sound so I dont use them. I use the white Sennheiser MX500 phones and they are excellent. They are not in the ear canal type phones but they are good.
I am hearing very good reviews for the new Sennheiser in ear canal phones (CX300). At £25 quid I might give them a go myself.