Dolby surround headphones needed

BISHI · 20-10-2009, 11:58 AM

Must be compatible with XBOX 360, preferably wireless, preferrably with an optical input ( from 360) or jack from non dolby headphone reciever. Desperate to find something before COD MW 2 comes out......All advice and experience welcome...

Bonessi · 20-10-2009, 12:42 PM

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Originally Posted by BISHI

Must be compatible with XBOX 360, preferably wireless, preferrably with an optical input ( from 360) or jack from non dolby headphone reciever. Desperate to find something before COD MW 2 comes out......All advice and experience welcome...

If it's for gaming one of the best things to get is the Astro A40 mixamp and headset...

However, I'd get the Mixamp (used as much for comms as it is for ampification)

and a wired headset.

If you have to go wireless, there are not many great ones about - but the Turtle Beach x41 are wireless...

Personally, I'd go

A40 Mixamp - £99
Audio Technica Headset - £99
Mic (Zalman pencil mic) or a boom mic

Voila, you have a top notch system that gives what you need from a gaming session i.e. to be able to hear people behind you...

BISHI · 22-10-2009, 8:37 PM

Just bought this-
AudioCubes.com - JVC SU-DH1 Surround Headphone Adapter - SU-DH1 -

Importing them from Japan for about £65-£70 and will use them with my old senni's

Bonessi · 22-10-2009, 10:09 PM

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Originally Posted by BISHI

Just bought this-
AudioCubes.com - JVC SU-DH1 Surround Headphone Adapter - SU-DH1 -

Importing them from Japan for about £65-£70 and will use them with my old senni's

Have you got a link to where you're getting then from please? Do these control voice comms?

BISHI · 23-10-2009, 8:01 AM

JUst go into ebay and type the item into the searchbar. I don't think you can do coms through it but you should be able to configure your xbox to play your mic through the main out channel. I am hoping the sound quality of this will be far superior to any gaming headset.

Bonessi · 23-10-2009, 9:58 AM

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Originally Posted by BISHI

JUst go into ebay and type the item into the searchbar. I don't think you can do coms through it but you should be able to configure your xbox to play your mic through the main out channel. I am hoping the sound quality of this will be far superior to any gaming headset.

Hopefully you won't get stung for import tax, look forward to hear what you think of it though.

That's the reason I'm going for the mixamp with some Audio Technica headphones. Main reason for the mixamp over the jvc is the comms control .

BISHI · 23-10-2009, 10:12 AM

I am hoping the sound quality will be far superior on the JVCs. Not too bothered about coms as I usually play ffa.

jamienufc · 23-10-2009, 10:22 AM

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Originally Posted by BISHI

JUst go into ebay and type the item into the searchbar. I don't think you can do coms through it but you should be able to configure your xbox to play your mic through the main out channel. I am hoping the sound quality of this will be far superior to any gaming headset.

Have you managed to test your amp and headphones yet? What do you think? Are you impressed

I just upgraded to some Audio Technica AD700s to use alongside my mixamp. I've ordered a labtech boom mic to with this setup also.

Although we're using different cans and amps, I think this approach is the way forward If you want quality sound from your gaming. Gaming headsets have little speakers in the ear and although this sounds good in theory the actual result isn't great and nowhere near as good as using an amp outputting dolby digital into a decent pair of open earphones. As for wireless gaming headsets, I honestly dont see the point. Yes you've got a little freedom, but how much do you need when playing a game or watching a movie? The fact that they suffer from interference and hiss is enough to put me off.

Anyone reading this thread should consider the astro mix amp, the JVC amp or something similar and pair it up with a good set of open earphones.

If you want an all in one solution i.e matching earphones with a boom mic attachment then I'd recommend the Astro A40s.

£199.95 from Astrogaming | Astro Gaming

The sound produced is excellent for games and movies, the headphones are really comfy, a mic is included and everything looks good.

Imo its much better to invest in something like this than waste your money on something like the Turtle Beach x41 which costs £150, is reported to suffer from no end of problems and wont give you anywhere near the result of something like the A40s.

BISHI · 23-10-2009, 11:17 AM

They have just been posted from Japan, I will post my thoughts on them here. I will be using an old pair of Sennis that were mafe in Germany before they shipped production out to China. Rock solid open cans with a superb sound. A far cheaper option than the mix amp or the ASTROS and I'm guessing at a superior sound quality.

24 P · 28-10-2009, 1:29 AM

Mr BISHI, time to get some info from you please.
What is the JVC like?
I just had my money refunded from AC as they had no stock but failed to mention this to me...
Been waiting 8 days for nothing...
Waiting for funds to clear, and I will save 30 AUD from an Ebay seller in Japan who has stock...

Look forward to your views...

BISHI · 28-10-2009, 9:30 AM

They are stuck at Coventry airport awaiting a 'customs inspection.' They will hopefully be here before the weekend so I'll let you know how I get on then fella !

24 P · 28-10-2009, 10:22 AM

Cheers matey, I have done a days research on HD dolby, talk about obsessive..
Got em for 125 AUD, about 65 quid landed, just need to wait for funds to clear..
Another toy to wait for lol..

24 P · 03-11-2009, 5:38 AM

I got the JVC yesterday, it is crap...
The Trirttons I have perform better..
Just another toy to gather dust now...

jamienufc · 03-11-2009, 6:36 AM

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Originally Posted by 24 P

I got the JVC yesterday, it is crap...
The Trirttons I have perform better..
Just another toy to gather dust now...

Thats really suprising to hear, as I've only ever heard positive things about it.

What heaphones are you using with it?

What are its problems then?

Jamie

24 P · 03-11-2009, 6:44 AM

Used HD 25 Mk II and HD 600s through a valve/ss hybrid amp.
No matter what setting I had it on, it sounded like it was echoing..
I could not clearly convey any real 5.1 imaging, which is what the unit is supposed to emulate..
The Trittons can do this with no echo..
A bit ****** off, as I was looking forward to using the HD 600s for DH..
If the JVC is the same as the Mixamp, which I believe it is, you guys a getting torn a new 1..
Oh well,live and learn..

crazy8s · 03-11-2009, 9:23 AM

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Originally Posted by 24 P

Used HD 25 Mk II and HD 600s through a valve/ss hybrid amp.
No matter what setting I had it on, it sounded like it was echoing..
I could not clearly convey any real 5.1 imaging, which is what the unit is supposed to emulate..
The Trittons can do this with no echo..
A bit ****** off, as I was looking forward to using the HD 600s for DH..
If the JVC is the same as the Mixamp, which I believe it is, you guys a getting torn a new 1..
Oh well,live and learn..

I had the same impression at first; it doesn't seem to be any good for game types such as HQ (COD4) but I find the device accurate enough for S&D and HCS&D [I'm on about the SU-DH1]

24 P · 03-11-2009, 9:25 AM

I played Forza through them shocking is all I can say..

BISHI · 03-11-2009, 12:19 PM

Mine arrive today. They had better be up to the job as I payed an extra £27 tax and fees for them. What setting do you have tem on 5.1 or dolby headphone. Are you inputting optical 5.1 from source also.

24 P · 03-11-2009, 12:32 PM

I ran them 3 ways, from the Xbox 360 for gaming, Optical, ran them as DD 5.1 in, DH1 worked OK, DH2 was more echoey, 3 was unusable.
Same with PS3.
Then I ran out of HTPC, Optical out, same thing, it picks up DTS straight away, very disappointed..

Maybe I am just retarded, by I am thinking I am not that stupid, it sounds crap..
The Trittons sound way better, and you can localise sounds..
JVC does nadda..

Get back to me, you might think differently..

BISHI · 03-11-2009, 12:34 PM

Are the instuctions in English or Japanese. Hopefully you are doing something wrong cos I'll be well annoyed if they are crap...........with only a week to go till COD MW2...

24 P · 03-11-2009, 12:38 PM

I have Japanese Instructions, maybe I have the #$%^&&% set to &^$#@ instead of *&^$@@ ??

Nah I downloaded the manual 1st, before I committed to buying and read it well enough, I now my gear well enough, it was not immersive or impressive..

BISHI · 03-11-2009, 12:46 PM

JVC SU-DH1 Review and User Opinions - Setup and Performance - JVC - MP3 Players Reviews by Digital Trends 2009 11/03

According to this review on page 3 you need to use the cinema pro logic setting to bet surround sound and not the dolby headphone settings. Try out what this chap says...

24 P · 03-11-2009, 12:56 PM

Hmm okay will do, will play around with it tomorrow, before it becomes a book end, and I don't own any books LOL..
thx for the link..

Just played with it then, erm you can not have PL II on when 5.1 DD is an input.
I tried, tried again, nothing..
DD 5.1 over rides everything, and only DH 1, 2 or 3 is available, such as DTS, PL II is for stereo sources only as I know..

jamienufc · 03-11-2009, 6:01 PM

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Originally Posted by 24 P

I ran them 3 ways, from the Xbox 360 for gaming, Optical, ran them as DD 5.1 in, DH1 worked OK, DH2 was more echoey, 3 was unusable.
Same with PS3.
Then I ran out of HTPC, Optical out, same thing, it picks up DTS straight away, very disappointed..

Maybe I am just retarded, by I am thinking I am not that stupid, it sounds crap..
The Trittons sound way better, and you can localise sounds..
JVC does nadda..

Get back to me, you might think differently..

All I can say mate is that I'm really sorry to hear that your disappointed and have potentially wasted your money, like I said earlier I am suprised by your findings because alot of people rate the JVC device.

I use the mixamp with my ad700s and can honestly say that the sound quality is superb in both games and films. There is bass when needed and everything sounds crystal clear and really sharp. The dolby headphone works great and I can accuratley hear where sounds are coming from with no problems.

I've heard different things about the JVC like that it uses an older chip and its two additional modes aren't very good to game with, but I don't know how much oof this is true and how much of it is opinion?

Hopefully after some tweaking with settings you'll be more happy.

BISHI · 03-11-2009, 6:02 PM

Can't use mine yet as there was no mini toslink with it

BISHI · 03-11-2009, 7:29 PM

Well dolby surround 2 is certainly a step up from stereo. We'll see how DD5.1 works out after I spend £4 on a bloody adaptor tomorrow !!!

Spinning Plates · 03-11-2009, 7:44 PM

I've got an SU-DH1.

pros

DH1 is best for movies,
DH2 is best for games especially FPS's
Decodes DTS which nearly all HDrips have nowadays
Cheaper than the MixAmp

cons

No easy way to integrate voice chat into the mix
Not convinced that DH works that well when watching films with it.

Spinning Plates · 03-11-2009, 7:46 PM

Don't worry Bishi, the difference will be night and day once you are able to feed it via optical and from a 5.1 source.

24 P · 03-11-2009, 8:24 PM

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Originally Posted by jamienufc

All I can say mate is that I'm really sorry to hear that your disappointed and have potentially wasted your money, like I said earlier I am suprised by your findings because alot of people rate the JVC device.

I use the mixamp with my ad700s and can honestly say that the sound quality is superb in both games and films. There is bass when needed and everything sounds crystal clear and really sharp. The dolby headphone works great and I can accuratley hear where sounds are coming from with no problems.

I've heard different things about the JVC like that it uses an older chip and its two additional modes aren't very good to game with, but I don't know how much oof this is true and how much of it is opinion?

Hopefully after some tweaking with settings you'll be more happy.

I think I have tweaked enough, I am not fussed with the $, as I knew this product, I was under the assumption that the Mixamp and JVC used the same chips, and that the JVC was newer, but this doesn't make sense as the JVC one has been out since 2006?

I will give it another go, but atm I have no FPS I am playing, I will try Dead space as that is truly a chilling game in its DD 5.1 mode on my Trittons..

I might even get the mixamp, but I highly doubt it..

This is my next toy in the works...

ButtKicker®

This with any headphones will be truly awesome..

Spinning Plates · 03-11-2009, 10:50 PM

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Originally Posted by 24 P

I think I have tweaked enough, I am not fussed with the $, as I knew this product, I was under the assumption that the Mixamp and JVC used the same chips, and that the JVC was newer, but this doesn't make sense as the JVC one has been out since 2006?

I will give it another go, but atm I have no FPS I am playing, I will try Dead space as that is truly a chilling game in its DD 5.1 mode on my Trittons..

I might even get the mixamp, but I highly doubt it..

The MixAmp has the newer DH chip. A bit surprised you don't like the way Dolby Headphone sounds. Sure you have 360 set to output in 5.1 surround in the audio options?

You can always sell the SU-DH1 on eBay.

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Originally Posted by 24 P

This is my next toy in the works...

ButtKicker®

This with any headphones will be truly awesome..

Man the ButtKicker is supposed to be awesome but not that many people seem to have them.

They seem to be very popular with people who play sim racers like Forza and have a steering wheel/chair setup and those that are into flight sims.

Last time I had a look on the UK supplier site they were out of stock and awaiting the release of new improved model.