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The Toshiba HD-XE1 Owner's Thread - Part 2

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Old 08-07-2010, 8:03 PM   #481
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Opened up the player, and the fan has no markings on it save for in tiny writing on the centre of the fan PBT GF30 FR(17K
That;s what I think it says, the initial P has two lines coming out the left side, as if a reversed K had been joined to a P. A Russian character?

It seems pretty quiet... I might still stick the dampening kit on it since I have it open anyway.

It is safe/worth sticking any insulation material on the edges of the inside of the case of next to the disc drive?


Re: zooming, that is a bit ****, seems a real oversight when speccing the format. A standard zoom functional surely wouldn't have been that hard to put into players... Even just for DVDs.

Did you unscrew the fan and turn it around, there should be a sticker in the centre.

if you lightly tap the Pcb broads, sometimes this brings up Vibration to the chassis and Board worth a go while lid is off.
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Old 08-07-2010, 8:12 PM   #482
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Did you unscrew the fan and turn it around, there should be a sticker in the centre.

if you lightly tap the Pcb broads, sometimes this brings up Vibration to the chassis and Board worth a go while lid is off.
OK, checked this, it's a Delta Brushless DSB0512LD

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looks like someone has blogged about replacing it here
http://gregssentinelpointoccasionalt...-noise_30.html


I have one of these sitting here boxed

http://www.quietpc.com/gb-en-gbp/pro...fans/fd-fan-50

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Old 08-07-2010, 8:28 PM   #483
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OK, checked this, it's a Delta Brushless DSB0512LD

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looks like someone has blogged about replacing it here
The SPoT: Resolving the Fan Noise
That's the Right fan for the player, the Xe1 that got replaced had same fan which was Noisy, the old player also had the same fan, i put this down to Faulty motor. bet you can here the fan while watching films .

That is a different fan on Quiet pc when i was looking , CFM seems a bit low though, i am sure it should be around 12-13cfm.

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So I have the noisy fan? What is the fan I should be trying to track down?
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Old 08-07-2010, 8:36 PM   #485
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So I have the noisy fan? What is the fan I should be trying to track down?
the one you posted , the delta 0.18a.. but if you can find a really near spec that will do.. imop there was a faulty batch of theses, that's why if you plug-in exact same spec fan in this is miles Quieter.

also if you go via Toshiba they want 40 quid for the fan.
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Old 08-07-2010, 11:09 PM   #486
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I think I have one of the loud ones, my player is about as loud as my 360.
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I think I have one of the loud ones, my player is about as loud as my 360.
Thats the one, but more like a fault fan motor. thing is i never striped a 360 drive, the noise maybe load due to fan so close to Pcb ect, may be worth Stripping that out and having a look if the fan is same or even trying in XE1..

Looking for theses fans can be a bit of a pain i.e amps,volts ect . also like i said above there is a 0.09A version of that Delta fan, have a look if you take that 360 fan out.
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Old 24-09-2010, 3:11 PM   #488
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My XE1 is still going strong and quiet. But I have read many reports over the months of the HD DVD laser failing. If that does happen to me, is this something I will be able to service myself? Will Toshiba still have stock of drive units and be prepared to sell that part individually? I don't want to risk a dead HD DVD collection.....
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Might be worth looking at a spare player and/or a HD-DVD Xbox360 addon drive..

That's my plan

Got a spare player and if they both go then I'll use the Xbox addon drive to rip to my NAS.
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My XE1 is still going strong and quiet. But I have read many reports over the months of the HD DVD laser failing. If that does happen to me, is this something I will be able to service myself? Will Toshiba still have stock of drive units and be prepared to sell that part individually? I don't want to risk a dead HD DVD collection.....
Easy to replace takes around 20 mins or so, going direct to Tosh will be dear the rear fan alone is £40, XE1 remote is £90 ect to give you an idea.

you can get replacement lasers of ebay at around £10. look for Revised model DT0811 or the first release model PHR-803T most x-box drives have this, the E1 i bought for spares has this laser as well, but i ended up giving it mithering mother to watch some films she has not seen
does not really matter they both do the same job Repaired my First Xe1 Demo player with one of theses lasers.
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Easy to replace takes around 20 mins or so, going direct to Tosh will be dear the rear fan alone is £40, XE1 remote is £90 ect to give you an idea.

you can get replacement lasers of ebay at around £10. look for Revised model DT0811 or the first release model PHR-803T most x-box drives have this, the E1 i bought for spares has this laser as well, but i ended up giving it mithering mother to watch some films she has not seen
does not really matter they both do the same job Repaired my First Xe1 Demo player with one of theses lasers.
Excellent. I will probably order one of these DT0811 lasers and keep it in store just in case.
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Excellent. I will probably order one of these DT0811 lasers and keep it in store just in case.
that's just what i did, if you search on there every now and then you can get them under £10, got my second spare for £6.99 i could not say no to that you can get them on other sites and dearer but there the same 3rd party laser.
you can also adjust the laser because most of the time they go out of sync, but you need a special tool, also read you can burn them out doing this, just seems allot of hassle this for the price you can buy them for.
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whats the best settings for xe1 connected to onkyo 605
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Not familiar with Onkyo amps but assuming it accepts HD codecs via HDMI then set up the XE1 to output Bitstream and Direct Digital On so it will transmit the HD audio direct to the HDMI input on your amp....assuming you have connected it up that way.
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Old 02-10-2010, 8:48 AM   #495
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If the 605 does do HD decoding, then an often missed 'feature' on the Onkyo's was that the HDMI Audio output has to be set to 'OFF' or it will not output HD audio, just 2 chanel stereo, as it's also sending it via the HDMI to your TV. Turn it OFF and you'll get HD audio if you've set your player to bitstream properly.
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Old 06-10-2010, 12:42 PM   #496
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Hi,
I have the opportunity to purchase an HD-XE1 for about £40.00. I currently have an EP10, and as a spare an EP30.
I was wondering if it is worth getting the XE1. IE is there any improvemrnt in picture and sound quality using the XE1 over the EP10?
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For SD-DVD definately, for HD-DVD it's debatable, probably depends more how well setup it is along with the rest of your system etc..

But for £40 it's a bargain, get it! Could be one of the best SD-DVD players you ever own
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For SD-DVD definately, for HD-DVD it's debatable, probably depends more how well setup it is along with the rest of your system etc..

But for £40 it's a bargain, get it! Could be one of the best SD-DVD players you ever own
Whoever is selling it for 40 quid doesn't realise how much they could sell it for!! These are collector items now
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Thanks for the helpful replies.
It was Cash Convertors selling it for £39.99. I went to get it, but it was no longer on the shelf.

Popped in today, and there it was again, along with other things that had been off display for a couple of weeks.
I now have an HD-XE1 .

I've tried a couple of HD discs, and it looks excellent. I'm now updating the firmware to V.4, and will then see what it is like as a DVD player.

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Well i just sold a new ToshIba XE-1 for £449.00 plus delivery

Just debating to pick up a used one to play my old hd collection

£39.99 is a good price
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Well i just sold a new ToshIba XE-1 for £449.00 plus delivery

Just debating to pick up a used one to play my old hd collection

£39.99 is a good price
£39.99 is a good price for me, as a purchaser.
£449.00 is an excellent price for you, as a seller!


I've tried some SD discs, and it is the best DVD player I have owned. I find the picture more detailed, and natural looking than both my EP-10, and my Samsung BD player.
The BD player was my main DVD player (I wanted to prolong the life of the EP-10), but now the XE-1 is the player of choice for SD playback, with the EP-10 now a spare, along with an EP-30.

Mike

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Question 1080p/24

This info probably is berried somewhere in these XE1 threads but will ask it again.

Got new TV that can now properly support 1080p/24. If I leave my XE1 on "Auto" which should detect 1080p/24 and output it correctly (the same as my Oppo BDP-93EU) but it's not happening at all. Every time I play a film it's comes through as 1080p/60. Only way to make it work is by changing XE1's output settings from "Auto" to "1080p/24". Which then is fine for movies but then it affects any SD material played on XE1, be it SD extras from HD-DVD disc or an actual DVD, and it causes a major stutter to video.

Why it doesn't detect and output signal as 1080p/24 when in "Auto" mode?
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I noticed this behaviour and never found a fix. Despite being an annoyance, I just change it when necessary. In contrast, my Blu-Ray players auto select 24/60 playback when set to auto.
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just leave the Xe1 on 1080p/24 and set to film this is what i do, you will get Sd dvd films running at 50 or 60Hz though.
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just got an hd-xe1 its a heavy well built bit of kit , puts my ep-30 to shame
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just got an hd-xe1 its a heavy well built bit of kit , puts my ep-30 to shame
Welcome to the club!
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Old 24-02-2012, 6:35 PM   #507
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cheers been after a good one for ages i have around 120 hd-dvds , just fired up transformers on my hd33 projector and it looks so much better then the ep-30 and the sound is amazing,
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I'm not gonna chase every HD-DVD under the sun but I'm planning to get the most common and English friendly HD-DVD releases so by the time I'm finished I'll probably have somewhere around 500 discs and because of that I'm actually looking to invest into 2nd HD-XE1 .

Out of interest, where from did you buy your XE1 and how much did it set you back?
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from the forums i got it for £105 boxed like new , been looking for around a year and keep missing ones on ebay but most go from £100 upwards some go for silly money buy it now £50 ect but i wasen't that lucky

there is a guy selling the american version for £100 plus postage
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Got mine of ebay boxed for £140 with 16 hd-dvd over 2 years ago. The machine never dissappoints me, only had to change the laser once, which was no bother
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