Roll up! Roll up! It's the great 'Slag off Halo' thread!!

1LeeDenton · 25-09-2009, 3:51 PM

After reading countless posts over in the Halo threads basically slagging off what is, in my opinion, the greatest gaming franchise ever, I thought I'd open up a dedicated area for people to vent their anger/hatred towards the 'Game of the Gods'.

So, this is the place to talk about its floaty floaty jumping, its boring single player campaign, its Multiplayer that's aimed at whiny Americans etc etc.

So, don't hold back; get that Halo hatred out of you - I'm sure you'll feel better once its out of your system.

Who's going to start the thread off proper then?

*toon83* · 25-09-2009, 4:11 PM

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Originally Posted by TG V1P3R

After reading countless posts over in the Halo threads basically slagging off what is, in my opinion, the greatest gaming franchise ever, I thought I'd open up a dedicated area for people to vent their anger/hatred towards the 'Game of the Gods'.

So, this is the place to talk about its floaty floaty jumping, its boring single player campaign, its Multiplayer that's aimed at whiny Americans etc etc.

So, don't hold back; get that Halo hatred out of you - I'm sure you'll feel better once its out of your system.

Who's going to start the thread off proper then?

its not greatest gaming franchise ever imo.im not a fan of mp but i love the sp

if u dont like it dont play it

same sort of ppl in nfs shift thread

Ethan2000 · 25-09-2009, 4:20 PM

Halo 1 = Stunning
Halo 2 = um....ok
Halo 3 = Meh !
Halo ODST = Good but too short.

Oh and the greatest gaming franchise ever is Half Life (imo)

jason g · 25-09-2009, 4:23 PM

1) while i don't hate halo 3, im not a fan of it either.

2) single player is ok, but not as good as halo 1.

3) multiplayer is ok but waiting times plus matchmaking is rubbish, half the time i was on a low score facing players who were on 40+ rank, hardly fair is it?

4) movement is too slow, some times on maps i would spawn on the other side and it would take ages to walk over the other side of the map where the fighting is, a sprint function or a respawn choice would have changed my mind with this.

5) whiny, yes whiny kids, however the party chat has sorted out that problem.

6) people opting for either power swords or sniper rifles while using active camo.

7) grenade glitch tricks to reach areas others cannot.

8) the new disc that came with ODST, i bought all the maps for halo 3, now they are all on the multiplayer disc that comes with ODST, im not happy, nor are others about this.

9) people hanging about areas waiting for ghosts to respawn.

10) shouldn't this thread be in the halo section.

EDIT: and also bungie deciding that even though i have payed 40 quid for halo 3, i cannot boost cheevos which are too hard to get against cheating yank kids, for this i would get banned if i tried.

u don't own the world bungie, u just think u do.

Klytus · 25-09-2009, 4:28 PM

Most people bash Halo because its the popular thing to do, just like the hordes hating on microsoft when most use windows.
Having said that i do really hate Halo single player but multiplayer is awesome. Like toon83 said: if you dont like it dont play it.

1LeeDenton · 25-09-2009, 4:30 PM

See, don't you all feel better now. And the Halo threads are free of all these negative vibes now. I'm a genius aren't I?? As well as a Brigadier Grade 2 (that might not mean anything to you guys though

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Mendes · 25-09-2009, 4:31 PM

It's close as to which is my Fav franchise this or Half life, though I didnt like the episodes of 2 that much.

How's about one for Call of Duty 4 and 5... ruddy perks!

Only probs I have with are times in matchmaking, slow movement and slight repetitiveness of SP levels.

I worship Halo: Combat Evolved!

mrbeannn · 25-09-2009, 4:34 PM

Like some parts of Halo, but dont play it. Single player, story etc. are terrible and its massively overrated. Dont really like multiplayer either except the vechiles, prefer CoD-more realistic, always have. Still its better then most fps games out there, not everyone likes the same games.

edit-and its full of americans online

mrbeannn · 25-09-2009, 4:35 PM

On Call of Duty things like perks add more depth to the game. On halo i guess you see the true skill of players, although it never seems to take much skill to play.

Rorifett · 25-09-2009, 4:55 PM

It's not realistic enough.

My needler in real life doesn't work anything like the one in the game

1LeeDenton · 25-09-2009, 5:01 PM

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Originally Posted by mrbeannn

although it never seems to take much skill to play.

kopchoir · 25-09-2009, 5:02 PM

Lee Lee Lee now i have a lot of time for you mate and i enjoy playing on live with you hell id even go for a pint with you anytime mate(your buying though)
When people pay their £40 they are entitled to vent ones opinion on said game.

I rememeber only today you slagging of gears of war2 albeit in that rubbish game thread ill let you off just ths once and any other game that doesnt have the halo watermark on it,im really please that on a personal level you can play a game that you enjoy and love but seriously mate you have to take the rough with the smooth.
I will put this little out burst down to a vent of frustration that not everyone feels the same as you and your not having a michael douglas falling down moment

YouTube - Falling Down: "Whammy Burger"

Also i know of a few others who would maybe like to play a bit of social but cant be arsed with the elitism you show take dazza for example its about being sociable not ranking up

Peace out

Si

Oh and ive been playing a bit of halo recently it sgood

1LeeDenton · 25-09-2009, 5:14 PM

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Originally Posted by kopchoir

I rememeber only today you slagging of gears of war2 and any other game that doesnt have the halo watermark on it....

....Also i know of a few others who would maybe like to play a bit of social but cant be arsed with the elitism you show take dazza for example its about being sociable not ranking up.

Thanks Si, but I must clarify that I was slagging off Gears2 in the general gaming section where people were asked to nominate their worst game. Its been a very long time since I frequented the Gears2 threads, as I was (rightly??) told to keep my negative opinion about the game elsewhere.......so I have.

And the elitism thing rears its ugly head again........I've said it before, and I'll say it again: I don't give a stuff what rank anyone in the game is, and it certainly does not distinguish who I do or don't play with. Again, I'll link it back to Gears of War, where there were a bunch of us (including you iirc) that enjoyed playing Ranked every now and then as opposed to the endless Social games. And surely anyone that wants to play Social can go and play Social, its not like they need my permission or anything is it.......don't tell me there are people out there thinking "you know what, I fancy a bit of Halo tonight........let me see if anyone on my Friends List is playing it.........oh, V1P3R is playing Team SWAT with Shuzz and EEC........I think I'd better leave it"

My whole purpose of this thread Si is part sarcastic, part serious, in so much that it seems the cool thing to do is just slag Halo off.....I could seriously take the

out of some of the trash that people play just to add some pixelated digits to their gamerscore, in a kind of "mines bigger than yours" fashion, but I don't. That said, I'm just tired of people seemingly trolling the Halo threads just to slag it off - this way, that can all be done here and us folks that use the Halo threads in a genuine manner can just get on with it.

The Bass · 25-09-2009, 5:15 PM

Some great replies already

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I've realised today that a large amount of the complaints about Halo come from people who seem to have forgotten it has skill based matchmaking. They play a few games at skill 1-5 and believe that the same noob tactics are used throughout the game.

On a side note Needler is great slang for someone's junk

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Originally Posted by Rorifett

My needler in real life doesn't work anything like the one in the game

1LeeDenton · 25-09-2009, 5:19 PM

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Originally Posted by The Bass

Some great replies already

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I've realised today that a large amount of the complaints about Halo come from people who seem to have forgotten it has skill based matchmaking. They play a few games at skill 1-5 and believe that the same noob tactics are used throughout the game.

Nail. Head. Hit.

kopchoir · 25-09-2009, 5:29 PM

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Originally Posted by TG V1P3R

......don't tell me there are people out there thinking "you know what, I fancy a bit of Halo tonight........let me see if anyone on my Friends List is playing it.........oh, V1P3R is playing Team SWAT with Shuzz and EEC........I think I'd better leave it"

Go have a quick look in the top gun masters thread for a few posts of mine that went seemingly unnoticed asking for a game 3 times i now find myself starting a new gamercard to try and get my skill up enough to have a few ranked games with you.

Thats how i feel anyway and if im quite honest over the years i think the amount of games we have played on in various different games i though i had at least deserved a game or two

And as the bass said about skill he is right had a quick game of swat last night with graeme at dafto clock and was royally arse kicked due to his rank although i will confess to having around 12 pints for my noob performance though

sordid_sentinel · 25-09-2009, 5:32 PM

I'm always up for some social if you ever fancy a game Kop

I am partial to the odd Ranked game though, and my in game character is sometimes an Elite

I'm a bad man

kopchoir · 25-09-2009, 5:34 PM

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Originally Posted by sordid_sentinel

I'm always up for some social if you ever fancy a game Kop

I am partial to the odd Ranked game though, and my in game character is sometimes an Elite

I'm a bad man

Everyones partial to ranked mate even me always have been but its no fun playing on your tod

1LeeDenton · 25-09-2009, 5:36 PM

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Originally Posted by kopchoir

Go have a quick look in the top gun masters thread for a few posts of mine that went seemingly unnoticed asking for a game 3 times i now find myself starting a new gamercard to try and get my skill up enough to have a few ranked games with you.

Thats how i feel anyway and if im quite honest over the years i think the amount of games we have played on in various different games i though i had at least deserved a game or two

Come on Si, you don't really feel like that do you?? So a few posts in here saying you'd be up for a game don't get answered, you know full well if you asked for an invite when we were both online that you would get one.....and that would be for Social OR Ranked, and on main gamertags as well. You don't need to create new gamertags to come and play with me/us Si, just send the usual '?' over when we're online and you'll be invited over mate - same applies to anyone. The only time I might not ever respond to a '?' is if I know I'm not staying on for much longer, so there's no point.

Yes, its true I went on a bit of a mission months ago to improve my Highest Skill, but that's finished absolutely aaaaaages ago, and I genuinely don't think I'll ever have the will (or skill??) to try and improve my current highest skill.

And you're right, we've played online across too many games, and for too long, for any of this to be a problem. If M$ insisted I could only have a friends list that had 10 people on it, you would be one of 'em

kopchoir · 25-09-2009, 5:36 PM

Check out my location
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kopchoir · 25-09-2009, 5:40 PM

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Originally Posted by TG V1P3R

Come on Si, you don't really feel like that do you??

Yep
Maybe we should go on jeremy kyle

EEC3 · 25-09-2009, 5:54 PM

Halo is a

steaming pile of

Terrible

laggy

online. Short SP with

graphics

1LeeDenton · 25-09-2009, 5:55 PM

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Originally Posted by kopchoir

Yep
Maybe we should go on jeremy kyle

Nice location update as well mate

nerro · 25-09-2009, 6:07 PM

Yup, this game sucks balls right now!

Stinja · 25-09-2009, 6:54 PM

Ok i'll bite.

I will say i do not "hate" Halo, but i believe it's overrated not bad, and there is certainly actual bad games out there. This is obviously all IMO (In My Opinion)

So context; When Bungie said they were doing a scifi RTS game i was ecstatic, these are the makers of Myth afterall. Then MS bought them out, RTS became RTS with controllable people down to FPS, which changed to fully FPS. Fair enough, they did Marathon (which IMO is a better series than Halo) which was a fantastic FPS game.

When released Halo pulled together a bunch of other peoples ideas, mashed them up and produced a solid shooter. However as the Xbox (1) basically had sod all else to play it was naturally touted by Xbox fanboys as "Teh Best Thing 3v3r!!!111". Was it? i dont think so. The best game on the Xbox at the time, but there was better out there.

The contemporaries (well released 1-2 years before) were Tribes, Quake 3 Arena, Unreal Tournament (original / 99), and Counter Strike - all of which offered better online action than Halo 1. Stacked against it for singleplayer/story were System Shock 2, Deus Ex and Half Life. On the console side TimeSplitters was pure fun, SOCOM came a little later with teamwork emphasis.

So compared to all that? At the time i enjoyed Halo 1, but thought there was better out there for specifics. It was a jack-of-all-trades doing lots well, but overshadowed if you owned more than just an Xbox.

The vast sales just fed the hype, and who ever said sales numbers were an indication of quality - dodgy popular EA games vs criminally neglected games like Beyond Good & Evil, ICO, just about anything on the Dreamcast? And as i said i think Marathon was a better product from Bungie. The story was excellent, better written and Halo actually felt derivative of it. Sort of a Marathon 3.5 with newer tech, and as Master Chief did the bit blowing up the engines who could not think of "FROG BLAST THE VENT CORE!"

Halo 2 rolled around, and it had minor improvements (especially online) but the story was a mess, and it just didnt excite.

Halo 3 more of the same; a move away from single-player (decidedly average, even dull dare i say), and online was/is just annoying. Too full of want-to-win americans, not enough evolution of core gameplay, better out there.

As a single-player series it's just gone downhill. Online has shown only incremental improvements. Overhyped and should be left to die, be remembered fondly, and make way for new IP and ideas

jamienufc · 25-09-2009, 7:57 PM

Halo 3 = Fantastic game

Gears of war 2 = Fantastic game

COD 4 = Fantastic Game

The message here folks, the above are all great games. Whilst none are perfect each has many merits and all are fun to play.

People should spend more time playing these great games instead of moaning and worrying about what other people think. If someone says your game sucks, so what? As long as your enjoying playing it thats all that should matter.

*Haggler* · 25-09-2009, 8:18 PM

Halo is crap

but i love it

Kinetic Frenzy · 25-09-2009, 8:34 PM

is that master chief minus his helmet in that picture?

*Haggler* · 25-09-2009, 8:45 PM

I think chucking a few loaves about along with the odd bottle of wine would make it sufficiently different to warrant a must have purchase

manowar68 · 26-09-2009, 7:15 AM

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Originally Posted by jamienufc

Halo 3 = Fantastic game

Gears of war 2 = Fantastic game

COD 4 = Fantastic Game

The message here folks, the above are all great games. Whilst none are perfect each has many merits and all are fun to play.

People should spend more time playing these great games instead of moaning and worrying about what other people think. If someone says your game sucks, so what? As long as your enjoying playing it thats all that should matter.

Could not have said it better myself

and the bit what gets me is when people moan about a certain games.All i can say is, stop the bloody moaning and if you don't like the game then don't play it.
Its the same thing with the forza 3 demo which has just come out,people moaning about it etc - its a DEMO

it will sell in its millions just like the halo games have

Have a look at my gamercard and you will see that im playing raven squad which has been slagged of by reviews but i bought it and its fun to play and im enjoying it and thats all what counts.