[shuzzbutt]

Ok, now that the dust is starting to settle and I've had this game for a few days, I've come to realise that for me at least, whilst the campaign is accomplished, it has never (this includes halo3) reached the heights of my all time fave half life 2

So why am I still so in love with odst? Because it gave me 3 new maps to play on Halo 3 MULTIPLAYER

I just want anyone who hasn't played Bungies godly gift online to know that they are really missing out. This includes all those who played 10/20 matches online and thought they have sussed what this game is about. I know of nobody that has played this thoroughly online just to turn round and say 'meh'.

Yes, this is just a shameless fanboyish post to get more folk to play halo online and yes I know bungie are not paying me to deliver their ultimate gaming commandment on the unwashed masses but hell, this is the HALO forum

Oh yeah, and play RANKED

[sordid_sentinel]

I dunno, Firefight and the Reach beta next year means disc 1 has it's appeal too

I'll admit headshotting grunts doesn't have the same satisfaction as SWAT though!

[nerro]

It would be for me too if it wasn't for the amazing lag i'm getting in about 80% of the games. Halo has never been this laggy for me, ever. I'm not sure if it's the amount of noobs online or something with my connection but it's ruining Halo for me.

Halo 3 is the new Gear of War 2!!

[Rorifett]

Originally Posted by nerro

Halo 3 is the new Gear of War 2!!

No supper for you tonight, go to your room!

[EEC3]

My disc 2 came with a sticker on the front saying only Colonels and above may play this

[1LeeDenton]

Originally Posted by EEC3

My disc 2 came with a sticker on the front saying only Colonels and above may play this

Mine says only Brigs and above

And you're right Shuzz, the best bit about the ODST package IS the 2nd disc, with the COMPLETE Halo 3 MP experience crammed onto it.....I for one absolutely love the new maps......was hoping to get on last night but it didn't pan out for me, so should definitely be on tonight for some Halo action

Oh, and Gray, they're called labels, not stickers

[kopchoir]

Originally Posted by nerro

It would be for me too if it wasn't for the amazing lag i'm getting in about 80% of the games. Halo has never been this laggy for me, ever. I'm not sure if it's the amount of noobs online or something with my connection but it's ruining Halo for me.

Halo 3 is the new Gear of War 2!!

Im finding it laggy as well my only problem as well is that i started a new tag and oh my there are loads of ringers on there i have played the first chapter on odst and now all im playing is H3 m/p its just gone 9am and im firing up halo

[kopchoir]

Originally Posted by EEC3

My disc 2 came with a sticker on the front saying only Colonels and above may play this

Originally Posted by TG V1P3R

Mine says only Brigs and above
Oh, and Gray, they're called labels, not stickers

Now Now no need to get all elitist yes you may be not bad at this game but id still own both your arses at that game that must not be named, and besides surely its more fun playng with dazza than ranking up.

Ill see how i do on this other tag starting from the beginning

[BISHI]

So can you play halo 3 multiplayer with disc 2 WITHOUT owning the original Halo 3 ?

Quite enjoyed ODST last night but so far it is falling well short of COD MW.
Environments not as detailed , gameplay not as smooth, realism not as good.

[croutledge]

Originally Posted by BISHI

So can you play halo 3 multiplayer with disc 2 WITHOUT owning the original Halo 3 ?

Yep..the full mutiplayer Halo 3 experience is on disk two with all the released maps and the extra 3 maps just released.

[BISHI]

Great, I sold my H3 disc earlier this year as I just wasn't playing it.

[nerro]

I thought it may be down to the time of day so I jumped on this morning before work and it was the same. Pressing the back button and all you can see is the connection quality of all players doing a traffic light dance. Constantly changing throughout the game.

I will stick with it though because I think the maps are pretty sweet, even the Legendary maps feel new again after hardly getting them in the social slayer rotation and not being allowed in to TS

I've still got the ODST campaing to start, if the lag is still there i'll ove over to that for a bit.

[kopchoir]

Been on all day and its been up and down

[dazza1011]

Originally Posted by kopchoir

Now Now no need to get all elitist yes you may be not bad at this game but id still own both your arses at that game that must not be named, and besides surely its more fun playng with dazza than ranking up.

Ill see how i do on this other tag starting from the beginning

Quite right Kop

by the way mine had a label sticker saying " maybe you will finaly get overkill "

[Mogwai1]

Gotta say ODST is not exactly setting the heather on fire for me. Not that far inot it but loong stretches of doing nothinng and then stupidly easy firefights. Not even close to COD 4 and i was a total HAlo convert before that came out. yes i know it's a different type of game but it's slow and doesnt challenge. Will give it a bit longer to see how it goes but disappointed so far.

[BISHI]

Originally Posted by Mogwai1

Gotta say ODST is not exactly setting the heather on fire for me. Not that far inot it but loong stretches of doing nothinng and then stupidly easy firefights. Not even close to COD 4 and i was a total HAlo convert before that came out. yes i know it's a different type of game but it's slow and doesnt challenge. Will give it a bit longer to see how it goes but disappointed so far.

I have to agree, I'm gonna play through campaign and sell it on. I'm afraid COD is now confirmed in my mind as a genuine Halo killer. Firefight is ok but certainly nowhere near as good as Zombie Nazis. The run and gun play of Halo is just nowhere near as engaging as the variety of playing styles and in game perk options as COD. Halo 3 disappointed and ODST just compounds my disappointment. They should have included new ODST multiplayer games not just give people what most halo fans will already have in H3 multiplayer. Come on Bungie, pull your finger out.... !

[Billy Goodgun]

Originally Posted by BISHI

I have to agree, I'm gonna play through campaign and sell it on. I'm afraid COD is now confirmed in my mind as a genuine Halo killer. Firefight is ok but certainly nowhere near as good as Zombie Nazis. The run and gun play of Halo is just nowhere near as engaging as the variety of playing styles and in game perk options as COD. Halo 3 disappointed and ODST just compounds my disappointment. They should have included new ODST multiplayer games not just give people what most halo fans will already have in H3 multiplayer. Come on Bungie, pull your finger out.... !

If you prefer Modern Warfare, well, that's up to you. The ODST campaign does get better, though (the night missions are boring, but the "proper" missions are enjoyable), and if it's too easy, just ramp up the difficulty! Put some skulls on if you need to!

Personally, I vastly prefer Firefight to Nazi Zombies, as there is a better mix of maps and brilliant multi-kills to be had, as well as maps with vehicles (both Covenant and UNSC). It plays a little bit like big team, only without the competitive element - so it's more relaxed and fun.

As for mixing up gameplay, I haven't played any other FPS that has more gametypes or accommodates more styles of play than Halo 3. But to each his own.

[BISHI]

Don't get me wrong, I will always love Halo but I really think tha baton was passed to to the COD franchise with Modern Warfare. TBH I have only played the first firefight map so maybe I'm being a little hasty. I have yet to manage to get into a multiplayer firefight with random people as the game search engine seems a lot different to COD and you don't really last long on your own.

[Billy Goodgun]

Originally Posted by BISHI

Don't get me wrong, I will always love Halo but I really think tha baton was passed to to the COD franchise with Modern Warfare. TBH I have only played the first firefight map so maybe I'm being a little hasty. I have yet to manage to get into a multiplayer firefight with random people as the game search engine seems a lot different to COD and you don't really last long on your own.

Lost Platoon is fantastic for Firefight, an instant classic. You can't play with randoms, though - there's no matchmaking for Firefight (which is a definite drawback).

I can see why so many people love CoD4 - it's a fantastic game, and I really wish I hadn't traded it back when I did. But I think Halo is just a completely different and unabashedly old-school FPS, and the two don't really bear much comparison.

Don't get me wrong, ODST isn't without some issues (lag on co-op campaign, firefight AND the new maps being just one of these factors), but the story does definitely improve. In many ways, though, ODST is an odd game, and it can't decide whether it's a budget expansion pack or a full-price game. Even the £30 price tag doesn't quite clear things up.

ODST is undoubtedly popular - and rightly so, even if it's just for the new Halo 3 maps - but let's wait to see what Halo: Reach has to offer before MW2 takes all the plaudits.

Can't wait for MW2, though. It's looking great so far (apart from silenced sniper rifles - that has me worried).

[Mogwai1]

Hoping reach is at least as good as the original Halo, I think Bungie have shot tehmselves in the foot with ODST and am greatly dissaponted about a game i had good expectations off.

[mdkdue]

I am afraid that i presonally have to completely disagree here. I have never understood the fascination with Halo's multiplayer. I tried to like it but it just doesnt do anything for me. There is something about it that just doesnt feel right and i just cant see its appeal...maybe its the 'floaty' feeling you get when jumping that ruins it for me...im not sure, whatever it is, i have to say that COD wins hands down as far as multiplayer goes....and i doubt that i will even bother putting disc 2 into my xbox's drive....

[EEC3]

It's odd that when most people say they don’t like Halo 3 MP they mention the high floaty jumping. That seems to be the most common gripe. Followed closely by whiney American kids. I guess people are more drawn to realistic shooters.

Initially I thought COD4 was fantastic online and for the most part it is. It's biggest appeal is it's accessibility. You can jump in with little practice and get some kills through grenade spamming and shooting people in the back. Therefore it's an enjoyable game for the casual gamer. I guess a lot of people on the forums have families etc do for them this is a good type of game to have. On Halo, if you’re a noob you just won't get kills easily at all. Probably because it actually takes more than 1 bullet to get a kill!

My biggest gripe is that it gets very repetitive. There is no matchmaking (and you can knock the Halo matchmaking all you want but 90% of the time it does work) and players who are better get rewarded with better guns and killstreak perks. Just doesn't make sense!

[iainl7]

I've tried Halo 3 multiplayer a few times, and it just does nothing for me; it's so oldschool I end up thinking I'd be better off turning the PC on and playing a bit of Q2DM1.

[BISHI]

The problem is the lack of tactical play on Halo, it basically has 2 playing styles - run and gun or sniper whore. This was ok back in the day of Halo 2 but that was many years ago ( and still the most enjoyable multiplayer experience I have ever had). COD gives you much more playing options - ambush, stalking, holding the best ground, securing flanks, sabotaging the best ground, calling in air strikes/helicopters/dogs. etc. There is so much more to think about and consider and TBH it feels more like a realistic combat environment. Halo feels more like a gladiatorial arena.

[mdkdue]

Originally Posted by BISHI

The problem is the lack of tactical play on Halo, it basically has 2 playing styles - run and gun or sniper whore. This was ok back in the day of Halo 2 but that was many years ago ( and still the most enjoyable multiplayer experience I have ever had). COD gives you much more playing options - ambush, stalking, holding the best ground, securing flanks, sabotaging the best ground, calling in air strikes/helicopters/dogs. etc. There is so much more to think about and consider and TBH it feels more like a realistic combat environment. Halo feels more like a gladiatorial arena.

I agree

[The Bass]

Originally Posted by BISHI

COD gives you much more playing options - ambush, stalking, holding the best ground, securing flanks, sabotaging the best ground

I see no reason why you can't do all of those things on Halo, and pretty much any shooter .

[sordid_sentinel]

Originally Posted by BISHI

The problem is the lack of tactical play on Halo

Woah, I've been playing against the wrong guys

Tactics are very important in Halo, if you come up against a decent team you'd get mullered if you tried to run & gun or 'sniper whore'. You've got to communicate, work together, control the map/power weapons and band together to take the other team out if they are controlling the map/power weapons.

Halo has it's flaws but that quote is just wrong imo

[1LeeDenton]

Anyone wishing to slag of Halo should visit this thread, over in the general gaming section:

http://www.avforums.com/forums/xbox-...l#post10453763

Go on guys, fill ya boots

[shuzzbutt]

Originally Posted by TG V1P3R

Anyone wishing to slag of Halo should visit this thread, over in the general gaming section:

http://www.avforums.com/forums/xbox-...l#post10453763

Go on guys, fill ya boots

[shuzzbutt]

My contribution to the halo or cod debate and why I always end up playing halo 3 multiplayer:

In Halo 3, I will never become a level 50 general, in cod I will prestige 10 times as long as I play enough games.

Hal0 multoplayer, she is a harsh mistress