[phil5743]

Sadly my HP w2207 just died after only 6 months and I now find it has been replaced by a new model w2207H - main difference I can see is HDMI (hence the "H"). I now am not sure what to do - go for this or the Samsung 226CW which hadn't come out when I bought my HP and there was just the 226BW panel lottery! Having looked at the 226CW all I can say is that I was not impressed with the build quality compared to the HP especially the stand. Does anyone know anything about the new HP? is it improved in any other way other than the HDMI? - also as my graphics card is DVI so can I connect it easily with a dual cable? BTW got a refund on my faulty HP. Thanks.

[Naqv]

Don't you have 12 months warranty?

[phil5743]

Originally Posted by Naqv

Don't you have 12 months warranty?

HP kept saying they had no stock and couldn't give date for swap-out. I now know why as this H model is replacement. Comet also said they had no stock - nobody had the sense to see why, and I had no idea about the new model coming out. Comet finally agreed today to give me a refund - it is ironical that the whole time they have had the H model in stock! HP have not impressed me as their overseas call centre is a nightmare to deal with and Comet did not seem to accept that they were legally responsible until many phone calls and threats. However I loved the HP and feel that it was bad luck that mine failed just as they changed the model specs. I would be prepared take a chance with the new one even if I don't get it from Comet (perhaps John Lewis). Also I feel I can't ignore the Samsung!

[Tejstar]

Blimey, that didn't last long. I remember you bought yours just before I bought my 226BW. I haven't heard much about the new HP w2207H, but personally if something broke down that quickly I would normally go with a different option if I had a choice.

The ViewSonic VX2255wmb is meant to be quite good if you are looking for new.

[phil5743]

Too late Tejstar! Just got back with replacement 2207H. I was very close to getting either a Samsung 226CW or Viewsonic VX2255wmb, but both seemed so plasticky in construction compared to the HP (especially the Samsung with no adjustment whatsoever). I was always so pleased with the HP and feel maybe I was unlucky (power just failed), so have decided to give it another chance. Having set it up (after using an old 15 inch CRT for 3 weeks!) I feel like an old friend is back. I had to get an HDMI to DVI cable but the image is stunning out the box - my wife even commented that it seemed better - not sure if it's a coincidence or whether other improvements have been made. Just have to keep fingers crossed as to reliability!

[Tejstar]

Fair enough mate - hope this one holds out for the long term!

[Vandiesel]

HP w2207H, picked it up a couple weeks ago, was so impressed, picked up another just this week. I think they are outstanding, I was looking at the samsung peeble, the apparent backlight references put me off

[Juzzy]

I am thinking of getting one from PCW at just £199, are you guy's still happy with your purchase?

I was looking at the Samsung 2232BW but the bleeding I saw was significant.

I want to go for the HDMI version as it keep the usage options open. How does it cope with Sky HD input?

Im new here, but i was comparing them both as well. The samsung pebble was the one that i was set on, until i went and compared it face to face with the HP W2207H. This was 200 times better, the quality was crystal clear and it was Cheaper, the height adjustable stand and rotation of screen is ideal, better than the wobbly samsung which just wobbled continuously with the slightest vibration. £199, plus i would get it from John Lewis, better on the warranty side.

All in all by the W2207H!!!

[caktusaurus]

A couple of questions:

1. What HDMI version does the W2207H use?

2. Has anyone hooked up a PlayStation 3 console to the monitor via HDMI? If so, how is it working out? What is your setup, upscaled 720p or downscaled 1080p? Does the W2207H even accept 1080p input?

Thanks!

[NickRno77]

Hi Phil,

I have a w2207 which I purchased from John Lewis back in May, it went pop a couple of days ago, no power getting to monitor at all. I see you had a problem with HP not being able to replace or fix your w2207 as they had no warranty replacements in stock, I was wondering what options HP gave you, i.e. swap for a w2207h or wait for w2207 to come in stock? I guess from what you have said previously I will end up having to take this up with John Lewis if HP don't come up with a solution.

P.S. I use a DVI cable connected to my ATI card at the moment do you know if I end up with a w2207h will the HDMI cable supplied connect to my ATI card?

Cheers

Nick

[oldskoolin]

Im considering buying the HP W2207H but just need some advice,

I was looking at this monitor in staples today, there display monitor was a w2207 non H model which is what I wanted to buy as it has dvi and vga.

After seeking out a sales advisor to buy one I noticed that the ones underneath the display were all boxed up as the H model after a conversation with the sales guy he said it was the same as the one on display, I wasnt convinced and said are you 100% certain as I thought the H meant hdmi he was still convinced it was the same, was about to buy it and noticed on the side of the box there was a sticker saying hdmi cable included.....hmmm thats one hell of a clue lol after opening the box and inspecting it he wasnt happy that his product knowledge had failed him somewhat....lol what a numpty....

I left bemused that they wouldnt even discount a display non H model that had no box or leads.....

So back to the drawing board, I really wanted this monitor in non H guise as it would suit my needs for running my PC in DVI and xbox 360 in VGA.

would it be possible to get some sort of adaptor so I could run the PC with a dvi/hdmi setup and the 360 on vga?

Im not sure what to buy regards a hdmi/dvi adaptor or even if its possible can anyone point me in the right direction?


TIA

Nick

[oldskoolin]

To answer my own questions I bought the HP W2207h today and its brilliant

I bought a dvi male/hdmi female convertor to plug in to my graphics card which means I can use the hdmi lead supplied for the pc and Im using the vga for the xbox 360.

anyone thinking about this monitor to run there pc and 360 on my advice is do it the PC and the 360 look brilliant.

I have no ghosting or colour problems on games and the monitor feels like its a quality item and not some cheaply made plasticky affair.

Well done HP for making a brilliant all round dual purpose monitor.
I really cant fault it, and im a very fussy bugger (just ask the wife)

[jellofund]

Evening,

I was looking for a 22" monitor that I could hook up my 360 to via hdmi and this looks like it fits the bill nicely.

Just wondered if anyone here has tried a 360 using hdmi and could give me some impressions please? Also can the monitor handle a 1080p signal (I appreciate the native res is less)?

I did a search on google and the only mention of it being used with a 360 was someone who couldn't hook it up via hdmi.....I'm hoping it was down to 'human error' rather than an inherent problem.....

Thanks in advance!

[cjking]

Originally Posted by NickRno77

Hi Phil,
P.S. I use a DVI cable connected to my ATI card at the moment do you know if I end up with a w2207h will the HDMI cable supplied connect to my ATI card?
Nick

I bought a w2207h a couple of weeks ago, it didn't work in portrait mode with my motherboard's built-in graphics, so I bought a new ATI graphics card that has an on-board HDMI socket. Every time the graphics card switches into a high resolution mode while connected to the monitor via HDMI, the monitor fuse blows! (Obviously the first time this happened I assumed the monitor had been killed - luckily I had some spare fuses in the house and tried replacing the fuse in the plug.)

I'm not sure if the card or the monitor is faulty - my intuition at the moment is that the ATI card (Sapphire Radeon HD 2400 Pro) regards the HDMI port as for TVs only, is ignoring the monitor settings and sending out 1080p (which the monitor can't handle) and that when the DVI-to-hdmi cable I've ordered arrives, the monitor may be able to get a digital signal from the DVI output of the card. (At the moment I'm using the monitors VGA connection with a DVI-to-VGA dongle at the card end, however I think the dongle is the cause of interference which is giving me wavy lines on the screen.)

Having said that, I thought HDMI equipment was supposed to be able to communicate with each other to set the right resolution. When I look in the ATI control software, I noticed that it seemed to think the the monitor was advertising itself as capable of a resolution and refresh rate far higher than the manual specifies, so I overrode the setting for maximum signal with 1680x1050 at 60Hz, but the monitor still blew a fuse when I booted with the HDMI cable connected. (If my intuiton is right, the card may be ignoring the "monitor" settings because it has detected a "TV" for which it has no settings yet, and is sending what it likes to the "TV".)

[NickRno77]

Originally Posted by cjking

Every time the graphics card switches into a high resolution mode while connected to the monitor via HDMI, the monitor fuse blows!

I guess you mean the fuse in the power cable plug or are you saying there is another fuse in the monitor itself,

BTW I am still waiting for a warranty replacement from HP

Cheers

Nick

[cjking]

Yes, the fuse in the plug. It came with a 10A fuse, which I've replaced with 5A and 3A ones. According to the manual, the monitor only draws 1.5A. It works fine with a 3A fuse, as long as I use VGA rather than HDMI to connect it to the card.

[bosque]

Is this monitor HD ready i.e can you run a Blu-Ray or HD-DVD player through it and get a hi-definition picture via the HDMI lead ? grateful for any views !

[cjking]

My guess is you could display a 720p picture but not a 1080p.

The monitor manual says that the highest resolution avaiable is 1680x1050 at 60Hz, ie. it cannot handle 1080p.

Today I found a way to experiment with different resolutions from the ATI graphics card. Firstly, I confirmed my suspicion that the ATI card regards its HDMI output socket as always being connected to a TV - you don't seem to be able to tell it to treat the connected device as a monitor.

For resolutions below 1024x768, when I used the monitor OSD controls to switch it to HDMI input, the monitor always said it was receiving a 720p/50signal, no matter what resolution I had told the card to put out. When I put it up to 1024x768, the "fuse blew".

It looks like no matter what resolution you tell the ATI card to put out to the "TV" on the HDMI port, it always translates it into a standard HDTV resolution before sending it. If the resolution is 1024x768 or higher, I'm guessing it decides to map that to a 1080p signal, and the monitor shuts down because it can't handle it.

Today I've realised that in fact the fuse is not actually blowing. If you pull the plug out AND don't plug it in again until about 20 seconds later, the monitor starts working again. (I have tested that you do need the time delay, just unplugging and plugging in again won't do. Also, leaving the monitor for half-an-hour without plugging and unplugging doesn't do either, it will remain completely dead until unplugged for the required number of seconds.)

[cjking]

I was wrong about maximum resolution, I've now managed to persuade the card/monitor to display a 1080p/50 signal over HDMI, but the monitor still switches itself off if I go into display settings and reduce the resolution to 1680x1050.

[StressedMum]

Hi -sorry to interupt your thread - but you guys appear to know a lot about this X2207h which I have just purchased today. I need some assistance with setting it up - and wondered - pretty please - if anyone could help. I am using the DVI connector as I don't have the HDMI port on my pc. Running Windows SP on Dell dimension. also, not using internal speakers - as I prefer additional ones. I need help setting up the My HP Display. I have noticed that this can be changed quite easily when switiching between text, photos, video etc. But if you want to tweek these settings on the 'MY HP Display' screen I get told that "This version of MY Display is not supported on the current display. My display will only work on HP enabled displays." I have tried uninstalling and reinstalling the software, changing the resolution, updating drivers etc - all to no avail. I use my pc mainly for text, web pages, and occasional photo work but nothing major. Thanks, if you can help. SM

[cjking]

I don't know why you get that message. I found the MyDisplay sofware a bit buggy, and have decided not to install or use it. One problem I had with it, is that after installing the w2207h monitor driver, I found that when I installed MyDisplay, the driver got set back to the Microsoft standard one. It then wasn't possible to install or uninstall the monitor driver. Fortunately I could use the Windows Vista system restore facility to roll back to before I installed the MyDisplay software.

Personally I'm happy to always leave the monitor in its default (text) mode.

I think that most of the things that MyDisplay does can be done using the buttons on the monitor, it's just not as easy.

[StressedMum]

thanks for your reply. I think you're probably right - seems to be another add on bit of software that is not really necessary. I find the onscreen setting so difficult to use though - when I press Auto adjust I am told that I should be using 1680-x1050-60Hz - but it doesn't adjust it for me - when I try to adjust this in Windows it throws it way out - far too tiny to use...HP helpline start talking along the lines of resetting graphics, monitors, adapters and something to do with G Force??? I was advised to uninstall the software (which I did) and restart, adjust computer setting just mentioned, the reinstall - complete bloomin mess! At 60p per minute I start losing patience. That was at 1.00pm thisafternoon - and I am still trying to figure it out. All I simply wanted to do was use the software on the recommended display so that the software could indeed be used - what a jumbled up piece of kit! I know I'm the the brightest spark in the box - but I can quite clearly understand that there is something not quite right here. So maybe I'll just leave it as it is - I have it set to 1024x768-60Hz, 32bit colour quality with DPI 96 - do you think that should be ok? thanks. SM

[cjking]

The auto-adjust doesn't adjust your screen resolution, it just tries to fine-tune the image quality if you are using the monitors analog input (VGA) rather than digital (HDMI.)

What I would definitely do is set the resolution to 1680x1050 in Windows, if the option is available. If the option wasn't available I would do what I had to, including buying a new graphics card if necessary, to make sure it was available. The image will be far sharper at that resolution than any other, because that is the actual number of dots there are on the display. With any other resolution, the display will be stretching or compressing it to make it fit, and it will be relatively blurred.

If the fonts are too small at that resolution, you can ask Windows to display large fonts somewhere in the display settings. In most software (such as Internet Explorer, Microsoft Word etc.) there is also an option to increase the font size.

Some software and some web pages specifiy their own font sizes and don't let you override them, so there will always be some fonts that will be small. It may be that after a month or so you will get used to this though. Also, if you'll excuse me stating the obvious, have an eye test, and wear your glasses. (My wife is as blind as a bat, works 12 hours a day in front of two monitors in a bank, and she refuses to wear her glasses. She says they hurt her nose, or that they make her look funny.)

I have no problems with the font size, but maybe I'm abnormal. I like to have as much information on the screen as possible, so if anything I usually make fonts smaller than standard, and I do get comments from people saying they don't know how I can work like that. (My eye-sight without glasses is only about 1% worse than it is with them, I still wear glasses for looking at computer screens and TV because I always want the image to be as close to perfect as possible.)

[cjking]

The DVI-to-HDMI cable I ordered has arrived, and it does enable me to use the monitor at its native resolution.

[apoc_reg]

Originally Posted by cjking

My guess is you could display a 720p picture but not a 1080p.

The monitor manual says that the highest resolution avaiable is 1680x1050 at 60Hz, ie. it cannot handle 1080p.

Today I found a way to experiment with different resolutions from the ATI graphics card. Firstly, I confirmed my suspicion that the ATI card regards its HDMI output socket as always being connected to a TV - you don't seem to be able to tell it to treat the connected device as a monitor.

For resolutions below 1024x768, when I used the monitor OSD controls to switch it to HDMI input, the monitor always said it was receiving a 720p/50signal, no matter what resolution I had told the card to put out. When I put it up to 1024x768, the "fuse blew".

It looks like no matter what resolution you tell the ATI card to put out to the "TV" on the HDMI port, it always translates it into a standard HDTV resolution before sending it. If the resolution is 1024x768 or higher, I'm guessing it decides to map that to a 1080p signal, and the monitor shuts down because it can't handle it.

Today I've realised that in fact the fuse is not actually blowing. If you pull the plug out AND don't plug it in again until about 20 seconds later, the monitor starts working again. (I have tested that you do need the time delay, just unplugging and plugging in again won't do. Also, leaving the monitor for half-an-hour without plugging and unplugging doesn't do either, it will remain completely dead until unplugged for the required number of seconds.)

Just got my w2207h this morning and im surprised if your moniter has a problem with receiving a hdmi tv input...

Bmy xbox elite (HDMI) and PS3 (HDMI) work perfectly with this monitor. The PS3 auto adjusts to 1080p and theres no problems from the moniter or PS3 side displaying this (obviously it must be downscalled slightly though)

Looks great! I would guess either your monitor or graphics card is faulty if you cant display a hd picture over HDMI without it blowing up!

[cjking]

In one of my previous posts I did correct what I said even earlier about the monitor probably only accepting 720p. I did manage to get it to accept a 1080p signal. It's only when trying to switch to a non-HDTV resolution with more than 720 lines (such as 1680x1050 or 1025x768) that it switches itself off. It only switches itself off if linked to the card with a HDMI-to-HDMI cable, with a DVI to HDMI cable 1680x1050 works.

Now that I've got a digital connection I can relax and enjoy it. It is a fantastic monitor. I will use it nearly all the time in portrait mode for web browsing. I do have a USB freeview tuner connected to the computer, so when I want to I can rotate it 90 degrees and use it as a TV.

I wonder if ATI (or HP?) will ever update there software/firmware so the HDMI-to-HDMI works for its native resolution - at the moment I'm not bothered, the only advantage that would give me is that I could use the sound card built into the graphics card and remove the sound cable from the monitor.

[apoc_reg]

Yeah i agree its a great bit of kit, the vertical view is a really nice touch

Only thing im having issues with is getting sound out of it... i want to use external speakers (as the internal speakers arnt great) when using my ps3 over HDMI but there is no headphone jack on the moniter.

Is there anyway to buy a HDMI lead that seperates analogue audio out?!?! Im guessing no but had to ask!

Hello everyone , Im new here and I just bought the w2207h...
I have it hooked up to my ps3 via hdmi i have to buy a graphics card with hdmi. Umm one thing thing I noticed is even with the stated maximum resolution my PS3 will put out a proper picture at 1080p .. I really dont know how its possible to work but anyway,,, the TV itself specifically says 1080p @ 60 hz , now i know if the monitor does not have 1920x1080 pixels im not getting true 1080p ... do you think im harming my set by using it @ 1080p ?
even when the monitor can accept and identify the 1080p?

My set looks great out the box but different applications warrant differnt adjustments... and I find the controls in the OSD a bit inaccurate in my opinion .. the only way for me to get close to my ideal picture is to use a preset then adjust it from there,,,


TO the other guy with a PS3 and has sound issues... in your pS3 you can set your ps3 to use hdmi for video and set sound to another option ie optical or the scart to use the red and white cable ....

Great monitor tho

[Algoz]

I'm keen to buy a glossy screen/glass fronted type display (similar to what you get on some laptops). Does this screen have such a display? Or is it the usual matt TFT finish?