[Iccz]

Gordon Ramsay's business nightmares - Telegraph

Oh the irony

"Any inaccuracies regarding the details of this period can be explained by the fact that all this occurred nearly 25 years ago."

[eric pisch]

Foxtrot Oscar restaurant - what a fantastic name for a Ramsey resteraunt

Couldn't happen to a nicer guy

I actually like Ramsey, the old one. The new remade for TV Ramsey is a joke, just about everything you see is contrived, scripted and setup. In his first "rescue my restaurant" series a friend of a friend owned one of the restaurants. They deliberately dirtied up his kitchen and put rat droppings all about so that Ramsey could "go into one". He was told quite clearly that if he refused to do this they would go else where (the restaurant closed after the show went out as people stopped coming thinking it was dirty). It is now so bad in the american series in one show it was daylight outside as one person argued and night time as they cut back to Ramsey.

Worrall Thompson the "squashed Bee Gee" must be laughing sooooo much at all this. Sure Thompson has closed 4 of his restaurants but in "selling out" he now turns over 60 mill a year just from sticking his name on products, which he does on anything even eco toilet cleaner. His spare room is stuffed with cash now. Only Oliver gets anywhere near him for money.

[Ian J]

Originally Posted by eric pisch

The new remade for TV Ramsey is a joke, just about everything you see is contrived, scripted and setup.

Is this the same eric pisch that is often to be found eulogizing over Top Gear where "just about everything you see is contrived, scripted and setup."

[eric pisch]

Originally Posted by Ian J

Is this the same eric pisch that is often to be found eulogizing over Top Gear where "just about everything you see is contrived, scripted and setup."

but that's deliberate and they do not hide the fact its scripted, and they occasionally make reference to it.

i guess its the context you do it in, if u have a show with 3 lads prating about that does nothing to hide the fact its aimed at pure entertainment then in my mind its no different to say watching a film, its scripted and not real but can be very entertaining none the less, and i doubt for the most part people would consider it real or even relate to say a million pound car haring round a track or a full scale marine landing invasion with a ford fiesta as reality.

where it becomes dangerous is in reality shows (Something TG has never claimed to be) where they portray the events as real, where you have the hero turn up and claim to fix real world issues that are manufactured and claim to save companies that later go to the wall. You have real people and real businesses but with a contrived script pretending to be real so to me it goes beyond entertainment. Hells Kitchen on the other hand which no doubt is designed to have friction and reaction is a fictitious environment and so such things can be done to increase the entertainment value.

[Ian J]

Surely no-one believes that his kitchen nightmares are anything other than entertainment. He supposedly turns up and spends a week at a restaurant during which time he organises T shirts and new signage and on one occasion rented the Town Hall in which to give a lecture. I don't believe that anyone would think that it was a genuine documentary.

[eric pisch]

Originally Posted by Ian J

Surely no-one believes that his kitchen nightmares are anything other than entertainment. He supposedly turns up and spends a week at a restaurant during which time he organises T shirts and new signage and on one occasion rented the Town Hall in which to give a lecture. I don't believe that anyone would think that it was a genuine documentary.

ummm gulp i did

I also believed David Blaine did not use camera tricks Until I read how all the tricks are done and they all pretty much involve stooges and camera tricks ...

TG has always felt scripted to me maybe because it was not hiding under the reality tv banner where I assume its REAL.

In the end you just dont believe anything

I am far too trusting .....