Give a Chav a vote ....

eric pisch · 21-02-2009, 11:37 PM

And they vote in the BNP

BBC NEWS | Politics | Hain voices fear over BNP victory

About 2 miles from where i live

jendo · 22-02-2009, 12:42 AM

I feel for you mate, I have the rather embarrassing omission that I live in a bnp ward

Perceval · 22-02-2009, 1:01 AM

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Originally Posted by eric pisch

And they vote in the BNP

BBC NEWS | Politics | Hain voices fear over BNP victory

About 2 miles from where i live

I'd be ashamed too, for not having got off my backside to make sure that didn't happen (were I a labour voter showing outrage after the fact it has happened).

Peter Hain is a good man....however to make headline news of an election where there were less than 2000 votes cast is somewhat ridiculous.

The BNP are mindless filth. Thank God the educated (and I mean middle) classes hold sway over the main body of power in the UK.

eric pisch · 22-02-2009, 8:03 AM

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I'd be ashamed too, for not having got off my backside to make sure that didn't happen (were I a labour voter showing outrage after the fact it has happened).

Peter Hain is a good man....however to make headline news of an election where there were less than 2000 votes cast is somewhat ridiculous.

The BNP are mindless filth. Thank God the educated (and I mean middle) classes hold sway over the main body of power in the UK.

The problem is that they keep picking up little seats here and there, and a place on the london assembly

its like a cancer slowly spreading

gtcarling · 22-02-2009, 8:10 AM

If people weren`t so disconcerted with labour and the conservatives perhaps people wouldnt vote for the parties like the BNP.

Mep · 22-02-2009, 9:11 AM

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If people weren`t so disconcerted with labour and the conservatives perhaps people wouldnt vote for the parties like the BNP.

Nonetheless you still have to be a Neanderthal to vote for them. There are other alternatives if you are disenchanted with the two main parties, even 'no vote' would be a better option.

I caught some of a documentary on BNP Wives the other night. One lot were campaigning against a Mosque being built in their town and to people that had the audacity to disagree them, their well reasoned argument against the Mosque was "You'll soon complain when they all go round raping your wives and daughters"!!!!!!

thfccambs · 22-02-2009, 9:21 AM

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Give a Chav a vote ....

Whats it got to do with Chav's? There the least likely people
to get of there arses and go and vote.

eric pisch · 22-02-2009, 9:23 AM

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Originally Posted by hunts1uk

Whats it got to do with Chav's? There the least likely people
to get of there arses and go and vote.

Swanley if you know the area takes the overspill of chavs from Dartford which consistantly shows up in the top 10 chav towns of England, it is infested with them.

ChavTowns

Bill Hicks · 22-02-2009, 9:25 AM

All the recent news regarding foreign workers being employed in the UK leaving Brits out of work, it's little wonder that the BNP are gaining footholds in certain areas in this country.

I don't believe that these people who have voted for the BNP this time around are usually BNP voters, but it's their only way to show displeasure with Labour and the Conservatives who are not addressing their fears and concerns.
Remember that the working classes traditionally had Labour to speak up for them and to fight their corner but now they find that they have no party that will do so anymore! Obviously the BNP are going to use this sense of isolation for their own gains.

Personally I find the title for this thread to be a perfect example of how some sections of the poorer working classes are treated appallingly and are simply abused!

Blame the major parties for allowing the continuing spread of far right politics in this country. Not the poorer sections of OUR society!

eric pisch · 22-02-2009, 9:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Bill Hicks

All the recent news regarding foreign workers being employed in the UK leaving Brits out of work, it's little wonder that the BNP are gaining footholds in certain areas in this country.

I don't believe that these people who have voted for the BNP this time around are usually BNP voters, but it's their only way to show displeasure with Labour and the Conservatives who are not addressing their fears and concerns.
Remember that the working classes traditionally had Labour to speak up for them and to fight their corner but now they find that they have no party that will do so anymore! Obviously the BNP are going to use this sense of isolation for their own gains.

Personally I find the title for this thread to be a perfect example of how some sections of the poorer working classes are treated appallingly and are simply abused!

Blame the major parties for allowing the continuing spread of far right politics in this country. Not the poorer sections of OUR society!

Bill

I do not apply the term Chav to everyone who is on a low income, I know there are alot of people out there that struggle but do there best to get by week on week, work hard and try hard to live a respectable life. I respect anyone who gets of there ass and trys to make the best of there situation, be it cleaning an office or running a coperation.

But there is also a die hard percentage of the population who are professionally unemployed, who are proud that they dont work and of there ignorance and certain areas of Kent have huge concentrations of them. I know Swanley very well and the area in question and its not unfair imo to call them Chavs as most are.

Bill Hicks · 22-02-2009, 9:38 AM

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Bill

I do not apply the term Chav to everyone who is on a low income, I know there are alot of people out there that struggle but do there best to get by week on week, work hard and try hard to live a respectable life. I respect anyone who gets of there ass and trys to make the best of there situation, be it cleaning an office or running a coperation.

But there is also a die hard percentage of the population who are professionally unemployed, who are proud that they dont work and of there ignorance and certain areas of Kent have huge concentrations of them. I know Swanley very well and the area in question and its not unfair imo to call them Chavs as most are.

Point taken. But as a previous poster has mentioned what's this thread got to do with "Chavs!" The unskilled uneducated tracksuit & baseball cap combo wearing sections don't get out of bed till midday and they sure don't vote!

The people who are voting for the BNP are the workers who find that they have been replaced at work by an Italian or Pole.

eric pisch · 22-02-2009, 9:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Bill Hicks

Point taken. But as a previous poster has mentioned what's this thread got to do with "Chavs!" The unskilled uneducated tracksuit & baseball cap combo wearing sections don't get out of bed till midday and they sure don't vote!

The people who are voting for the BNP are the semi skilled workers who find that they have been replaced at work by an Italian or Pole!

Actually I think they do, and it appears the BNP is finding a way to motivate them, probably implying if they kick out the "immigrants" there will be more free housing and benefits for them. They are becoming more slick and professional at hiding there bigotry and hatred.

Bill Hicks · 22-02-2009, 9:45 AM

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They are becoming more slick and professional at hiding there bigotry and hatred.

Undoubtedly yes!
All politics is about presentation, just look at David Cameron!

thfccambs · 22-02-2009, 9:49 AM

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Originally Posted by eric pisch

Swanley if you know the area takes the overspill of chavs from Dartford which consistantly shows up in the top 10 chav towns of England, it is infested with them.

ChavTowns

What make's you think that your average 30/40 year old hasn't had enough of the state of the country and voted BNP?

Mep · 22-02-2009, 10:22 AM

I'm fed up with New Labour (always have been) and Cameron doesn't do much to inspire me either but I don't feel the need to go and vote for a bunch of ignorant, racist thugs.

mij · 22-02-2009, 10:33 AM

It must be nice being a superior life form

eric pisch · 22-02-2009, 10:46 AM

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What make's you think that your average 30/40 year old hasn't had enough of the state of the country and voted BNP?

There does seam to be an underlying problem with the perception of the current government

eric pisch · 22-02-2009, 10:47 AM

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It must be nice being a superior life form

It can be tiring

CJPowers81 · 22-02-2009, 10:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Bill Hicks

All the recent news regarding foreign workers being employed in the UK leaving Brits out of work.

The BNP would have my vote for this reason alone. Why shouldn't UK citizens be priority over foreigners in every aspect? The point being, they should.

jay mc · 22-02-2009, 11:04 AM

If the bnp where to sort out some of there more extremist members they would be a better party. Theres NOTHING WRONG with a party that wants to put british people first!!!

Just by being there they keep a small voice that stops labour completly selling us out to imigrants and the like.

They are getting more clever as well, there recent campign in grays was based on sarahs law and dealing with anti social behavoiur. So on the last one attacking the "CHAVS" that people seem to think vote for them.

Would i want them in charge of the uk? at this moment deffently not but i wouldent want them gone either.

I have voted for them in the local election, my reason is simple like many in my town im sick of the growing african comunity getting everything. Most where given vast sums of money to help by a house of set up a business and get priority on council housing (all proven).

In the goverment election i will vote conservitive, yes they may not be any better but labour have simply had to long and sold us out way to much.

Does this make me a racist? NO it makes me british and i do have friends who are black and asian who work dam hard and are also anoyed by how the uk is going now.

Rant over.

Ayub · 22-02-2009, 11:05 AM

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The BNP would have my vote for this reason alone. Why shouldn't UK citizens be priority over foreigners in every aspect? The point being, they should.

But the uk citizen according to some of them is WHITE MAN only. Where does it place people like me? I'm a Bradford born male with Asian Parents both were born in S Asian country. Some of their satments i may see common ground however like most groups its been highjacked by racists who push their own agenda.

Mep · 22-02-2009, 11:05 AM

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The BNP would have my vote for this reason alone. Why shouldn't UK citizens be priority over foreigners in every aspect? The point being, they should.

So you turn a blind eye to everything else they stand for? (or perhaps you agree?)

thfccambs · 22-02-2009, 11:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Mep

I'm fed up with New Labour (always have been) and Cameron doesn't do much to inspire me either but I don't feel the need to go and vote for a bunch of ignorant, racist thugs.

Well maybe everyone doesn't have the same views as you and me.
Maybe other have just had enough, haven't the BNP been in Burnley
for a while now?

Kebabhead · 22-02-2009, 11:06 AM

Personally I think it's a good thing as maybe the Government & The Tories might actully sit up and think about what people really want

thfccambs · 22-02-2009, 11:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Mep

So you turn a blind eye to everything else they stand for? (or perhaps you agree?)

Why have a go at everyone who has a diffrent view as your own?
It's a choice
if someone wants to vote for the BNP so be it.
You have your vote so be it.

Thought this once great country stood up for things like free speech?

Mep · 22-02-2009, 11:12 AM

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Well maybe everyone doesn't have the same views as you and me.
Maybe other have just had enough, haven't the BNP been in Burnley
for a while now?

Clearly not, but I'm just amazed anybody can vote for them.

So they are getting at cleverer at hiding their racism, doesn't stop them being racists.

Mep · 22-02-2009, 11:14 AM

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Originally Posted by hunts1uk

Why have a go at everyone who has a diffrent view as your own?
It's a choice
if someone wants to vote for the BNP so be it.
You have your vote so be it.

Thought this once great country stood up for things like free speech?

Isn't that my free speech? I don't expect everyone to agree with me, but it doesn't stop me from expressing my opinion, As others have done to the opposite.

It just so happens that I'm not racist but if others want to vote for that sort of thing it is their right

Bill Hicks · 22-02-2009, 11:15 AM

I think that the main party's are more concerned with corporations, foreign affairs and bowing down to the perceived liberalism of the EU and people are becoming disillusioned with who they are, and what they represent!

Does it matter who is in power be they Tory or Labour?

Like the late great Bill Hicks (No relation

) said

YouTube - Bill Hicks Puppet Show - "Politics in America"

But seriously though we are experiencing as close to a one party system as can be in a democracy, so radical right wing politics have become more appealing to the marginalised.

Like Germany in the early 1930's, we are reaping what we have sowed!

thfccambs · 22-02-2009, 11:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Mep

Isn't that my free speech? I don't expect everyone to agree with me, but it doesn't stop me from expressing my opinion, As others have done to the opposite.

It just so happens that I'm not racist but if others want to vote for that sort of thing it is their right

So if you vote BNP your a racist?

Your welcome to put your view across as others are, but so what if

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or perhaps you agree

that's up to the individual. Just because you don't agree with there views doesn't make them wrong, or does it?

Kebabhead · 22-02-2009, 11:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Mep

Isn't that my free speech? I don't expect everyone to agree with me, but it doesn't stop me from expressing my opinion, As others have done to the opposite.

That doesn't mean people have the right mock people for voting for BNP

They must have their reasons, it this we should be looking at