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Old 09-01-2009, 6:25 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Can I block up this vent//brick. So Cooooold!

Unfortunately another DIY question I am afraid. I hope people dont mind , I find more help here though than on any other forum !.

With the weather being so cold it is creating a problem in our little girls room , it is getting unbearably cold throughout the night.
The room is an original two storey exension on the rear of our 1930's semi, it therefore has three external walls and a roof with no loft space and therefore I am unsure if there is any insulation what so ever in the roof.
Anyway the immeadiate question is the air vent /brick that is installed in the room. This is the main culprit at making it cold , you can feel the very cold air streaming through even when the vent is supposedly "closed". My question is can I remove it , and block it up ?. This would help no end I believe. My thought was to block it up but not with a permanent fix, so therefore if any problems occur (damp) I can re-instate it. I am wondering if there has been a damp issue in the past as the vent looks newish. The ouside airbrick is original as they are all over the house to air the cavity. i think someone has knocked through into it.

Any thoughts , the only solution is this cold weather is to keep the heating on. I cant have my little girl frozen.

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Re: Can I block up this vent//brick. So Cooooold!

I may get shot down for this but I would take the cover off and sucure a couple of sheets of newspaper to the back of the cover and replace
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Re: Can I block up this vent//brick. So Cooooold!

Is there a boiler in the room?
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Re: Can I block up this vent//brick. So Cooooold!

Is there or was there a fireplace in the room,as this might have been used to give the fire air,if are going to block it, block it from the inside,is there a cavity in the wall.
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Re: Can I block up this vent//brick. So Cooooold!

To check if there is insulation in the roof,was there any snow on the roof, if so did it stay there or melt before the sun got to it,if it melted no insulation, my bedroom has 2 outside walls an stayed cold if i keep the door closed as the rad did not seem to keep the room warm ,check your rad size and see if it's big enough for the job go to B@q for the calculator.
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Re: Can I block up this vent//brick. So Cooooold!

Thanks for the replies so far.

No , no boiler in the room or fireplace . It is a cavity.

I have included 2 pics of outside too. In the first you can see the original ornate air brick at the top of the picture. The second shows the room a bit more clearly.
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Re: Can I block up this vent//brick. So Cooooold!

If there's no gas or oil heater in there, just a normal central heated water filled radiator, I'd block it up, but as has already been said, do it on the inner wall, and with something temporary, so that you can easily remove it in summer or if you start getting dampness in the room

As long as there is no carbon monoxide generating from anywhere, you should be fine.

But look at insulating your ceilings, and into getting your cavity walls filled - there is quite a bit of funding available through the Govt at the moment, all through the various companies that do it. My neighbours have had their loft and cavity walls done recently, and it's made a big difference, and it only cost them around a couple of hundred pounds, for a 3 bed detached, and they are both in full time employment.
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Re: Can I block up this vent//brick. So Cooooold!

Tesco do cavity wall insulation for about £200 and quite a few local authorites will have grants available. Tesco will send someone round for a free quotation.

Be wary of companies that only install cavity wall insulation as they may just install regardless of whether it is rught to or not.

I had several quotes from cavity wall installers and all said they would do it. However, the bloke sent round from Tesco's showed me in the wall with a scope and indicated just one wall tie in the cavity that was completely caked in mortar. He reckoned if the cavity was filled I'd have much lower bills for a couple of years, and then a terrible damp problem I'd not be able to ever fix. All because of that one mortar caked wall tie!!

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Re: Can I block up this vent//brick. So Cooooold!

Thanks guys , for all your suggestions.

I have always been A bit wary of cavity wall insulation to be honest. I thought why would houses be made with a cavity only for someone to fill it up. Is there any drawbacks ?. Thanks

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Re: Can I block up this vent//brick. So Cooooold!

We live in a 30s semi with a wooden floor, with crawl space underneath. There are air bricks at either end of the house. The wind passes through there and freezes the house. We block the air bricks up in cold windy weather with a vinyl floor tile in front. Then just remove the tile when the weather improves.
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air bricks are normally there for a reason, depending on the room use, construction type etc, its more common to have vents like yours on solid wall construction and they did a fair bit of this in the 30s. blocking them can cause condensation and on houses where you dont have solid floors (which normally have air bricks low down) condensation which can lead too rot.

if the roofs not insulated doing that would be a good idea, you can get insulation backed plasterboard, a reasonably easy diy job

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Becareful blocking air blocks for the floor , friend built a new extention and because there was enough airflow he got rot appear on some of the timbers within 4 months,if you can get under the floor put some celotex or kingspan in between the joists.
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Re: Can I block up this vent//brick. So Cooooold!

I was thinking of adding a dry wall layer to the walls using this (or similar) as suggested.

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I have a question though. What is best "Dot and Dab" or battons across the wall. What would be easier for a basic DIYer.

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Re: Can I block up this vent//brick. So Cooooold!

I have a feeling the airbrick is there as the room would have been a bathroom at some point and it was there to help with the moisture; so i reckon it could be blocked, imo. And looking at one of your pictures, I reckon that money would be better spent on dealing with the ceiling/roof insulation. I could almost guarantee that all your heat is escaping there and all the cold is coming in from there. Did you convert your bathroom or was it like that when you moved?

EDIT:Obviously not all the heat escapes from the roof, but a lot will. And what Eric said. What size is your radiator? If its just a single, stick a double on, should only cost you 50 squid.

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Re: Can I block up this vent//brick. So Cooooold!

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I was thinking of adding a dry wall layer to the walls using this (or similar) as suggested.

Gyproc ThermaLine PLATINUM

I have a question though. What is best "Dot and Dab" or battons across the wall. What would be easier for a basic DIYer.

Thanks

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depends on the surface your applying to, dot and dab is fast and cheap but needs a course clean surface, battens the opposite but will last forever.
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