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Old 04-12-2008, 9:30 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Your DNA on a National Database

Would you be happy to provide it? Personally i cant see why it would be an issue for all law abiding citizens, im sure there are good reasons for it not to be on there apart from the obvious "big brother state scenario" i just cant think of any!

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Old 04-12-2008, 9:37 AM   #2 (permalink)
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Re: Your DNA on a National Database

Yeah, "if you've got nothing to hide, you have nothing to fear", right?

So what happens when they change what you might want to hide?

For instance, what if "the government" suddenly decide that it'd be better for society if they "eliminated" anyone with tainted genes that might lead to, for instance, Down's Syndrome? Well, a quick bit of SQL later, and all the names and addresses of the people who need to be rounded up are in the hands of those with power...

I know, I know, very unlikely, but a week ago, I'd have found it unlikely (but not wholly impossible) that members of opposition parties would be arrested by anti-terror police, but that's since happened too.
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I don't trust any government computer to keep my data secure due to all of the high profile mistakes that have been made recently so I definitely wouldn't trust them to hold my DNA which could result in me going to prison for a crime that I didn't commit due to another screw up.
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Old 04-12-2008, 9:57 AM   #4 (permalink)
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Re: Your DNA on a National Database

I think that anyone who has ever had a blood test or similar probably has their DNA stored on a database somewhere anyway.

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Old 04-12-2008, 11:13 AM   #5 (permalink)
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I wouldn't trust any government IT project!
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Old 04-12-2008, 11:17 AM   #6 (permalink)
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Re: Your DNA on a National Database

This just in.
Good old EU...

BBC NEWS | UK | DNA database 'breach of rights'

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Two British men should not have had their DNA and fingerprints retained by police, the European Court of Human Rights has ruled.

The men's information was held by South Yorkshire Police, although neither was convicted of any offence.

The judgement could have major implications on how DNA records are stored in the UK's national database.

The judges said keeping the information "could not be regarded as necessary in a democratic society".
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Old 04-12-2008, 11:18 AM   #7 (permalink)
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I wonder if Damien Green's DNA is now on the database forever, given he's been arrested. I also wonder if his daughter is now on the Met Merlin database (interesting story here). The Tories just seem to roll over when it comes to allowing the police state we're turning into, I hope this brings it home to at least one of them...

And the answer to the origingal question. No. I would certainly not be happy. Why should the police/government have any of my personal information that they don't absolutely need?
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If I could 100% trust the powers that be and that the register be only used for specific things (catching criminals/helping with medical issues) then i'd not have a problem with it at all.

Sadly, the current mob in charge have clearly demonstrated that they could not be trusted with an issue this big.
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It's an evil plan to make clones of us to fight in the wars!
Don't allow it!
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It's an evil plan to make clones of us to fight in the wars!
Don't allow it!
If it's a choice between me fighting or a clone I'll sign up to the database now
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Well if they clone me I can send the clone to work whilst I stay at home
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Re: Your DNA on a National Database

Why not have a TV that watches you in everyone's home linked to the local thought police. I cant see why it would be an issue for all law abiding citizens, if you've got nothing to hide, you have nothing to fear right?
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Re: Your DNA on a National Database

No for the following reasons:
1) Can the security of the database be guaranteed (doubtful)
2) What happens if my DNA is "mixed up" with a criminals and then by the fact that its irrefutable I am done for a crime I never committed!
3) Why should the police of the government hold my info when I have done nothing wrong....
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Re: Your DNA on a National Database

The point is its none of the states bloody business what I and my family do as long as we dont break any laws.

They have no right to know who I am phoning, what my emails are about and what TV I watch...

Good old EU courts, stuck one up the police state
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Re: Your DNA on a National Database

I can see the newspaper headlines now...

USB Stick found with DNA Database on London Bus!
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