 |
|
|
04-12-2008, 9:30 AM
|
#1 (permalink)
|
|
Member
Join Date: Nov 2006
Posts: 522
Thanks: Gave 99, Got 34
|
Your DNA on a National Database
Would you be happy to provide it? Personally i cant see why it would be an issue for all law abiding citizens, im sure there are good reasons for it not to be on there apart from the obvious "big brother state scenario" i just cant think of any!
Can you?
Mods please add a poll if possible -
|
|
|
04-12-2008, 9:37 AM
|
#2 (permalink)
|
|
Member
Join Date: Aug 2007
Posts: 169
Thanks: Gave 26, Got 60
|
Re: Your DNA on a National Database
Yeah, "if you've got nothing to hide, you have nothing to fear", right?
So what happens when they change what you might want to hide?
For instance, what if "the government" suddenly decide that it'd be better for society if they "eliminated" anyone with tainted genes that might lead to, for instance, Down's Syndrome? Well, a quick bit of SQL later, and all the names and addresses of the people who need to be rounded up are in the hands of those with power...
I know, I know, very unlikely, but a week ago, I'd have found it unlikely (but not wholly impossible) that members of opposition parties would be arrested by anti-terror police, but that's since happened too.
|
|
|
04-12-2008, 9:55 AM
|
#3 (permalink)
|
|
Senior Member
Join Date: May 2006
Posts: 1,235
Thanks: Gave 179, Got 259
|
Re: Your DNA on a National Database
I don't trust any government computer to keep my data secure due to all of the high profile mistakes that have been made recently so I definitely wouldn't trust them to hold my DNA which could result in me going to prison for a crime that I didn't commit due to another screw up.
__________________
Any advice I may give is given in good faith but may be incorrect so listen to what other people have to say as well and don't blame me when it all goes tits up.
|
|
|
04-12-2008, 9:57 AM
|
#4 (permalink)
|
|
Member
Join Date: Nov 2005
Posts: 213
Thanks: Gave 11, Got 56
|
Re: Your DNA on a National Database
I think that anyone who has ever had a blood test or similar probably has their DNA stored on a database somewhere anyway.
...I'll fetch my tinfoil hat...
__________________
“The trouble with having an open mind, of course, is that people will insist on coming along and trying to put things in it”
|
|
|
04-12-2008, 11:13 AM
|
#5 (permalink)
|
|
Veteran Member
Join Date: May 2001
Location: Herts, England
Posts: 5,341
Thanks: Gave 122, Got 412
|
Re: Your DNA on a National Database
I wouldn't trust any government IT project!
__________________
Sony STRDB930, Rotel RMB-1075, Sony KDL-40X2000U, HD HTPC, B&W CDM 1NT, CNT & SNT, MF A3 24-bit DAC, SkyHD, TSU7000 ProntoPro NG, QED cables
Follow my PC Case mod project here: http://www.hardforum.com/showthread.php?t=1189553
|
|
|
04-12-2008, 11:17 AM
|
#6 (permalink)
|
|
Veteran Member
Join Date: Jun 2001
Posts: 5,785
Thanks: Gave 259, Got 757
|
Re: Your DNA on a National Database
This just in.
Good old EU...
BBC NEWS | UK | DNA database 'breach of rights'
Quote:
DNA database 'breach of rights'
Two British men should not have had their DNA and fingerprints retained by police, the European Court of Human Rights has ruled.
The men's information was held by South Yorkshire Police, although neither was convicted of any offence.
The judgement could have major implications on how DNA records are stored in the UK's national database.
The judges said keeping the information "could not be regarded as necessary in a democratic society".
|
|
|
|
04-12-2008, 11:18 AM
|
#7 (permalink)
|
|
Member
Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: Nottingham
Posts: 403
Thanks: Gave 29, Got 48
|
Re: Your DNA on a National Database
I wonder if Damien Green's DNA is now on the database forever, given he's been arrested. I also wonder if his daughter is now on the Met Merlin database (interesting story here). The Tories just seem to roll over when it comes to allowing the police state we're turning into, I hope this brings it home to at least one of them...
And the answer to the origingal question. No. I would certainly not be happy. Why should the police/government have any of my personal information that they don't absolutely need?
__________________
Panasonic 50PF10, Onkyo NR905, Toshiba EP-30, Pioneer DVD757Ai, Sky HD, B&W 805Matrix/HTM2/TDM34DS, Rel Stentor II, Wii, PS2, PS3, BFD, Harmony One, HTPC, Stressless chairs
Yes, life is unfair. And your point is...?
|
|
|
04-12-2008, 11:20 AM
|
#8 (permalink)
|
|
Prominent Member
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: Nottingham
Posts: 4,919
Thanks: Gave 183, Got 180
|
Re: Your DNA on a National Database
If I could 100% trust the powers that be and that the register be only used for specific things (catching criminals/helping with medical issues) then i'd not have a problem with it at all.
Sadly, the current mob in charge have clearly demonstrated that they could not be trusted with an issue this big.
__________________
AV Forums Golf Day IV Champion, Runner Up AV Forums Golf Day I, V and VI If they don't like you going out, they'll love you comin' in
Panny 37PX600 Plasma,Yam A5 Amp, Tosh XE1 HD DVD, Panny BD60 Region A Blu-Ray, Xbox 360, AE Aelite 3 Fronts, AE Aegis 3 Rears, AE Aegis Centre
|
|
|
04-12-2008, 11:20 AM
|
#9 (permalink)
|
|
Moderator
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: Astro City
Posts: 1,288
Thanks: Gave 958, Got 976
|
Re: Your DNA on a National Database
It's an evil plan to make clones of us to fight in the wars!
Don't allow it!
__________________
My opinions expressed here do not represent those of the AV Forums or its associated websites.
|
|
|
04-12-2008, 11:45 AM
|
#10 (permalink)
|
|
Senior Member
Join Date: May 2006
Posts: 1,235
Thanks: Gave 179, Got 259
|
Re: Your DNA on a National Database
Quote:
Originally Posted by Iccz
It's an evil plan to make clones of us to fight in the wars!
Don't allow it!
|
If it's a choice between me fighting or a clone I'll sign up to the database now
__________________
Any advice I may give is given in good faith but may be incorrect so listen to what other people have to say as well and don't blame me when it all goes tits up.
|
|
|
04-12-2008, 11:48 AM
|
#11 (permalink)
|
|
Member
Join Date: Mar 2006
Posts: 702
Thanks: Gave 54, Got 126
|
Re: Your DNA on a National Database
Well if they clone me I can send the clone to work whilst I stay at home
__________________
LG 50PQ3000 Plasma, Yammy A595 Amp,B&W CC3 centre Kef Coda 7 fronts
Mission 73 surrounds, Pioneer DV400 DVD Player (multi-region)
Crystal Xbox (modded with X3 + 250gig HDD)
Virgin Cable & Broadband
|
|
|
04-12-2008, 11:58 AM
|
#12 (permalink)
|
|
Veteran Member
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: Home
Posts: 5,460
Thanks: Gave 616, Got 899
|
Re: Your DNA on a National Database
Why not have a TV that watches you in everyone's home linked to the local thought police. I cant see why it would be an issue for all law abiding citizens, if you've got nothing to hide, you have nothing to fear right?
__________________
Lots of stuff. Some silver, some black.
|
|
|
04-12-2008, 12:01 PM
|
#13 (permalink)
|
|
Member
Join Date: Feb 2007
Posts: 229
Thanks: Gave 29, Got 26
|
Re: Your DNA on a National Database
No for the following reasons:
1) Can the security of the database be guaranteed (doubtful)
2) What happens if my DNA is "mixed up" with a criminals and then by the fact that its irrefutable I am done for a crime I never committed!
3) Why should the police of the government hold my info when I have done nothing wrong....
|
|
|
04-12-2008, 12:03 PM
|
#14 (permalink)
|
|
Senior Member
Join Date: Dec 2006
Posts: 1,923
Thanks: Gave 665, Got 571
|
Re: Your DNA on a National Database
The point is its none of the states bloody business what I and my family do as long as we dont break any laws.
They have no right to know who I am phoning, what my emails are about and what TV I watch...
Good old EU courts, stuck one up the police state
__________________
60 Kuro ISF Callied and lots of other stuff
IKEA DIODER back lighting (this is a must have mod imo  )
BE Vrooooooom
Tweet me @Eric_Pisch
|
|
|
04-12-2008, 12:03 PM
|
#15 (permalink)
|
|
Moderator
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: Astro City
Posts: 1,288
Thanks: Gave 958, Got 976
|
Re: Your DNA on a National Database
I can see the newspaper headlines now...
USB Stick found with DNA Database on London Bus!
__________________
My opinions expressed here do not represent those of the AV Forums or its associated websites.
|
|
|
| |