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Old 22-09-2008, 10:38 AM   #1
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Help needed fitting a kitchen



Right, I've built the cabinets.

Do I install the wall unit flush in to the corner? It would be hard to use the drill in the corner, or can I leave a bit of a space (would that look stupid with a bit of a gap?)

The wall units arn't corner units just bog standard double wall units.

Any help would be appreaciated as I have never installed a kitchen before
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Old 22-09-2008, 10:43 AM   #2
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Re: Help needed fitting a kitchen

Not entirely sure this is the place.....

But when you say you've build the units - do you mean you've assembled them, or you've made them.

Not entirely clear why you need to get a drill in the corner ??

Usually you have a row of cabinets, with the front faces in a straight line - and generally, unless the cabinets are made to measure, you have an infill somewhere along the run.


Some more info perhaps
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Old 22-09-2008, 11:34 AM   #3
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Re: Help needed fitting a kitchen

Also to add to the above, The top and bottom units really should be inline. All the self assembly ones Ive fitted in the past have a little plate that screws to the wall and the unit hooks to that and is tightened up. and I have never had any trouble with fixing as the bracket is usually about 25mm from the corner wall, but it isn't that important if the screws are at a slight angle as long as they have a good hold. If the wall is slightly out then I usually use about 25mm thin plastic angle that is inverted and glued in place. hope this helps
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Old 22-09-2008, 12:13 PM   #4
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Re: Help needed fitting a kitchen

Ok I was trying to get the wall units flush to the wall in the corner it was just a bit tight getting the drill in there to get the brackets up.

Finally done it but the walls must be a bit wonky as the cabinet will not fit flush in to the corner. So down come the brackets and I'll have to move them along, so there will have to be a little gap between the wall and the cabinet, bulmix
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Old 22-09-2008, 12:14 PM   #5
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Re: Help needed fitting a kitchen

Anyone know any decent websites on how to install a kitchen?

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Old 22-09-2008, 12:18 PM   #6
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Re: Help needed fitting a kitchen

http://www.wikihow.com/Install-Kitchen-Cabinets

http://www.hammerzone.com/archives/k...t/install.html

http://www.ronhazelton.com/howto/Kit...ation_text.htm

not sure if they're any good but google brings up loads abotu kitchen cabinet installation. some have vids too.
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Old 22-09-2008, 12:34 PM   #7
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Re: Help needed fitting a kitchen

Being a time served joiner I can tell you that site two is the most informative and that in particular this diagram. what you will have to do is scribe this to the wall so it fits properly then attach to the unit then hang the unit
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Old 22-09-2008, 5:17 PM   #8
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Re: Help needed fitting a kitchen

Thanks everyone
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Old 22-09-2008, 6:40 PM   #9
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Re: Help needed fitting a kitchen

Your comment about wonky walls is a little worrying: if you don't get the units square and flush to eachother, using packing etc, the doors will be a bugger to line up, and if they are even a few millimetres out, you'll see it every time you walk into the kitchen.

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Old 22-09-2008, 8:11 PM   #10
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Re: Help needed fitting a kitchen

******** ******** ********

Those wall cabinets have been up and down more time than Jordans knickers tonight!

They've got these weird little brackets that have to line up at the back for it to hang properly.

I fitted the first one but just can't seem to line up the next one - there is no room for error. And the only why to tell if they are lined up properly is to put the cabinet on the wall then try to screw it in, if it's not prefect it won't go.

I'm determined not to get frustrated.

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Old 22-09-2008, 8:44 PM   #11
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Re: Help needed fitting a kitchen

Hi,
Usually there is a couple of adjusting screws on the brackets. One to adjust the cabinet up and down and one to tighten the cabinet against the wall.
Fit one cabinet at a time, level it up then tighten to the wall. Then hang the next cabinet to it level etc then fix the cabinets together. Then carry on with the rest...
Also fit the base units before the wall units.
One little tip.. When you come to fit the door handles, they are usually marked on the back of the cabinet doors. Always hold a block of timber on the front of the door when you drill through from the back...

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Old 23-09-2008, 10:08 AM   #12
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Re: Help needed fitting a kitchen

hi how is it going? lol.
can you not just offer the brackets up to the lugs on the back of the cupboards so they sit central then measure the distance between them,then transfer the measurements on to the wall,
what i would do is. mark with a pencil and level all the units where they are going to go before you do anything, so you have your plan on the wall.
then measure from the end each unit to the centre of bracket and transfer
to the plan you have on the wall, job done.
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Old 23-09-2008, 11:40 AM   #13
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Re: Help needed fitting a kitchen

I'm still installing cabinets but have decided to take no notice whatsoever of the measurement on the instructions as they're really messing me up.

I'll be an expert by the time I've finished and probably never have to install a kitchen ever again, if aI do it will be in years and I will have forgotten everything!

Right, got to go and put another cabinet up, or have another coffee mmmmmm coffee!
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Old 23-09-2008, 11:57 AM   #14
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Re: Help needed fitting a kitchen

well post some pics when your done mate,
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Old 23-09-2008, 12:07 PM   #15
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Re: Help needed fitting a kitchen

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well post some pics when your done mate,
Why, do you feel like you need to have a laugh?
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Old 23-09-2008, 7:20 PM   #16
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Re: Help needed fitting a kitchen

absolutely not. only tryng to help here
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Old 24-09-2008, 11:53 AM   #17
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Re: Help needed fitting a kitchen

I know, only kidding!

I got my second delivery of units yesterday.

I haven't even thought about worktops or plumbing.

Do ya reckon I could do the plumbing myself or leave it to the professionals?
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Old 24-09-2008, 4:15 PM   #18
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Re: Help needed fitting a kitchen

If you are locating the sink in the same place its really easy to do, Most modern mixer taps have thin flexi pipes that just tighten up to the hot and cold and the waste is just a case of getting the right pipes and is again really easy. but if you have any probs we will guide you through it
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Re: Help needed fitting a kitchen

yep plumbing is very easy .make sure you fit new taps to new sink before fixing sink down,and if you use compression fittings then no need for soldering. and buying flexey hoses makes life easier
on the subject of worktops ,some builders merchants will cut to size if you give them the right measurements and router the join for you at a small price,
although wall must be square to do this then all you gotta do is cut out the sink.(new sink will come with a template). any more info just fire away
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Re: Help needed fitting a kitchen

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Why, do you feel like you need to have a laugh?
Yeah lol .
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Old 25-09-2008, 6:49 PM   #21
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Oh my god, I've no stopcock!

I'm fitting a new kitchen and wanted to turn the water off to the sink. The water mains comes in to the house branches off to the sink then there is a tap to shut off the water upstairs but no stopcock to the whole house. Which means.......I dunno what does it mean? Do I have to switch the off the water mains from the street?

Help
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Re: Oh my god, I've no stopcock!

I think there should be a stopcock at the entrance to your property then.
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Old 25-09-2008, 6:55 PM   #23
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Re: Oh my god, I've no stopcock!

Hold on I'll have a look!
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Old 25-09-2008, 6:57 PM   #24
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Re: Oh my god, I've no stopcock!

It was a bit dark (and scary ) but I found it!

Right what tools do I need to attack the bugger with?
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Re: Oh my god, I've no stopcock!

If it doesn't move freely DON'T TOUCH IT. Ours was seized, was gonna try and crack it off but my old chap told me not to bother - got the water board out, they tried to unseize it, and after they got utterly soaked they switched off the water to the street, dug up the road, replaced the stopcock, and then we could isolate our water.
With luck, it'll just turn!!
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If it doesn't move freely DON'T TOUCH IT. Ours was seized, was gonna try and crack it off but my old chap told me not to bother - got the water board out, they tried to unseize it, and after they got utterly soaked they switched off the water to the street, dug up the road, replaced the stopcock, and then we could isolate our water.
With luck, it'll just turn!!
Did they charge you for that?
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Re: Oh my god, I've no stopcock!

Nope, don't think they are allowed to either.
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Re: Help needed fitting a kitchen

Right, I opened the hole which says water and it was full of sand, I had a poke around with my screwdriver but couldn't find anything.

What am I looking for?? a tap?

How far down should it be?

I'm still determined not to get frustrated!

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Re: Help needed fitting a kitchen

Normally about a foot down, but if your house is on a slope it could be up to three feet down I think a bit of careful (think archeologist) excavation is in order here.

Dave
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