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Do you think this sort of approach would have an impact on crime levels in this country? 
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Originally Posted by PJTX100  | depends on what sort of crime you are talking about? if its the type that being killed is already part of the job than no, but if you start executing currupt politicians, money launderers and various other crimes that take part in the financial sector which effects millions then yeah I think it would have an impact on the levels this country.
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Originally Posted by PJTX100 | Like it does in the US?
If you are from the Compton area of LA, your life expectancy goes up if you are on death row.
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Originally Posted by andykn Like it does in the US?
If you are from the Compton area of LA, your life expectancy goes up if you are on death row. | Isn't that more to do with legalised firearms than the death penalty?
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Originally Posted by PJTX100 Isn't that more to do with legalised firearms than the death penalty? | But the death penalty in the US doesn't seem to be much of a deterrent.
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Originally Posted by andykn But the death penalty in the US doesn't seem to be much of a deterrent. | I'm not an expert on the US death penalty but I can't recall 29 hangings going on in the US recently. Electric chair for one person after 15 years of appeals maybe. But that is slightly different. 
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Originally Posted by andykn If you are from the Compton area of LA, your life expectancy goes up if you are on death row. | 
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Out of the 10 safest countries to live in the world in terms of least murders per capita:
Only 2 have the death penalty, and out of those, only for exceptional crimes such us under military law, not for normal public crimes of murder.
Israel which is 5th is the one with only exceptional crimes, Singapore is in 10th, the only one with the death penalty for normal crimes.
Iran is certainly not in that list ... especially since Iran has double the amount of murders than the UK per capita.
Sort of knocks that idea on the head doesn't it ?
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I think it's a great idea, imagine how much fun it would be watching proper 'cops and robbers' shootouts in the highstreet.  | |
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and those 'exporting' insurgents and arms into Iraq are heroes?
what a screwed up country
sooner its crushed the better imo!
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Originally Posted by Ethics Gradient Sort of knocks that idea on the head doesn't it ? |
Are you saying crime, especially murder / rape etc, would stay the same or even go up in the UK if the Iranian hanging example was adopted in this country?
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No,
I think he is merely stating that there is not necessarily a correlation between the death penalty and the reduction in (serious) crime rates. That is not the same as saying that without the death penalty (serious) crime rates will go up
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Mahatma Gandhi - "An eye for an eye makes the whole world blind".
In an oppressive regime a state's definition of "crime" is often used to reinforce age-old prejudices founded on belief systems and religious dogma.
In Iran between 1990 and 2007 Iran have executed at least 24 children. One of the more prominent hangings was that of a 16 year old girl, Atefeh Rajabi, who was convicted for crimes against chastity.
Iran also execute men for the "crime" of being homosexual. A recent study released last month conclusively show that people of either sex attracted to their same gender have their brains "wired" differently. So is that a "crime" worth punishing by death?
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The trouble with places like iran is that despite importing 21st century technology, they still have a 14th century mindset.
Its kind of like why the vulcans held off making first contact with the humans in star trek until they thought they were ready.
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Originally Posted by Games Guru The trouble with places like iran is that despite importing 21st century technology, they still have a 14th century mindset.
Its kind of like why the vulcans held off making first contact with the humans in star trek until they thought they were ready. | the problem is that along with their friends they want to bring us all 14th justice as defined by themselves!
conform or die!!
i'm sure i'm not alone in this idea but it will end in a big mushroom cloud and it will not be in Washington/London?
and it gets closer every day - the USA/UK have now seen that Pakistan is a failed state and are moving towards India as their new partner (reactors etc) - India is becoming a world economic power whilst Pakistan grubs around for the crumbs from the table
the Pakistan nukes are not a risk as the USA has plans to remove/destroy then at a time when they and the rest of the world see them as instability on the world stage!
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