[eric pisch]

My brother in law has just sent me some pics of his su-16 and ar-15

I have gone green with envy, I now look like the hulk if he had let himself go 20 years ago

Of course in this nanny state you get nicked for carrying a butter knife but in the good old US of A you can own proper toys !

Anyone want to sponsor me for a green card?

For those that have no idea what im on about

AR-15

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MhtTHAv0HSc

SU-16

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RCDm-QM8Tao

They dont have a problem with hoodies in his neighbour hood

[Bill Hicks]

Nah! Doesn't compare to my Webley air pistol! I got them squirrels running!

[eric pisch]

Originally Posted by Bill Hicks

Nah! Doesn't compare to my Webley air pistol! I got them squirrels running!

[funkyspider]

Originally Posted by eric pisch

They dont have a problem with hoodies in his neighbour hood

but if they did they would be the best armed hoodies in the world.

[eric pisch]

Originally Posted by funkyspider

but if they did they would be the best armed hoodies in the world.

ok i have just fallen of my chair PMSL because of the thought that came through my mind

Heineken doesnt do hoodies but if we did ....

[inzaman]

Its quite an ironic post, i was out with some friends last night and one has just taken up clay pigeon shooting and has just got a shot gun. I was saying that i am not really into shot guns but if i lived in the US i would definitely have some form of high powered rifle and go down the gun range regularly, just like your bro in law - thats just looks great imo

[eric pisch]

Originally Posted by inzaman

Its quite an ironic post, i was out with some friends last night and one has just taken up clay pigeon shooting and has just got a shot gun. I was saying that i am not really into shot guns but if i lived in the US i would definitely have some form of high powered rifle and go down the gun range regularly, just like your bro in law - thats just looks great imo

I think you have hit the nail on the head, they have so many clubs and professional run ranges, that you can really enjoy shooting as a hobby in a very safe way and fairly cheaply as well.

[metalhead72]

They dont have a problem with hoodies in his neighbour hood

[Naqv]

lol. I think I saw a hezbollah member with the AR-15 yesterday on the news, but yeah, even though I have never touched a gun, I would probably get a couple if they were legal in the U.K, as a hobby.

[Sporran]

well were still allowed spud guns (or are we) so i was thinking of getting one of these, i guess that will be ok in the UK?


http://www.spudtech.com/

[Gary D]

and this from the same poster who would bang anyone up for smoking weed and eating a mars bar - but would allow automatic weapons in their neigbourhood. i was lucky the god lord saw fit to "see me alright i the downstairs department" so i dont need to compensate by buying guns.

i can see it out on the news now..

"we'll he had an argument with his wife, it was very heated, he then went rampaging round the streets with a spliff smoking it. he came back half an hour later he's bought some fruit juice and donuts and was perfectly calm"

or

"we'll he had an argument with his wife, it was very heated, he then went rampaging round the streets with a gun threatening people it. it was like Dunblane, or Hungerford, or Columbine, or Georgia tech or Chelsea last week"


Gary

[Sporran]

Originally Posted by Gary D

i was lucky the god lord saw fit to "see me alright i the downstairs department"

Give us the tecnhnical details, is it semi/fully automatic or manual reload
And whats the recoil like lol

[Gary D]

Originally Posted by Sporran

Give us the tecnhnical details, is it semi/fully automatic or manual reload
And whats the recoil like lol

it was automatic when i was younger, then it reverted to manual

[eric pisch]

Originally Posted by Sporran

well were still allowed spud guns (or are we) so i was thinking of getting one of these, i guess that will be ok in the UK?


http://www.spudtech.com/

the problem is even if you go out shooting rabbits or rats with an air gun your likely to get the full police armed response unit on you, unless your out in the deep country

[Moviebuff]

Originally Posted by Gary D

it was automatic when i was younger, then it reverted to manual

You can always get it deactivated - or use it as a blank firer!

[Gary D]

Originally Posted by Moviebuff

You can always get it deactivated - or use it as a blank firer!

ha ha its been firing blanks for a while now

[overkill]

Originally Posted by Gary D

it was automatic when i was younger, then it reverted to manual

Funny, that seems common when you get to 40. It seemed to have such a long range when you were younger, it's magazine seemed so much easier to re-charge, and the barrel remained straight with no effort at all. Nowadays it has to be cleaned regularly or the sight droops...............

As for it's longevity, well, when I first had it, it could fire for ages, now, well, a few days 'down in the firing range' a month is all it can manage.

[andykn]

Give me the good old "nanny state" every time.

You are as likely to be killed by a gun in the US as be killed in a road accident in the UK.

So, of those spectators who were at the last US NFL superbowl, at least 3 will be killed by guns by the time of the next superbowl.

I heard that, if you buy a gun in the US you are over 20 times more likely to get shot than if you don't.

[Mr Incredible]

Sometimes shooting in a "safe" environment can be hazardous.

This is a .50 calibre rifle....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KiZMJRgK_8c

And a .50 calibre handgun

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9lzri8dn7p0

[SimonH]

Originally Posted by Gary D

and this from the same poster who would bang anyone up for smoking weed and eating a mars bar - but would allow automatic weapons in their neigbourhood. i was lucky the god lord saw fit to "see me alright i the downstairs department" so i dont need to compensate by buying guns.

i can see it out on the news now..

"we'll he had an argument with his wife, it was very heated, he then went rampaging round the streets with a spliff smoking it. he came back half an hour later he's bought some fruit juice and donuts and was perfectly calm"

or

"we'll he had an argument with his wife, it was very heated, he then went rampaging round the streets with a gun threatening people it. it was like Dunblane, or Hungerford, or Columbine, or Georgia tech or Chelsea last week"


Gary

It all started innocently, I was just into knives, used them a little here and there before I knew it it lead to guns, now I've got a uzi .. I don't think I have suffered any side effects though, but the neighbours and that guy in the car who flicked me off seemed to have.

[Harj]

I've recently come back from the USA after a 2 week break , in which time I drove over 2,000 miles, hiked into Grand Canyon, lost money in Vegas, watched LA Galexy play football, chilled at Venice beach and Santa Monica, drove into endless lonely desert roads ,drove up Highway 1, chilled in San Francisco, went to Yosemites national park...And yet some posters would consider shooting a fun hobby instead!!!!!

If I lived in the USA, there are far more better things to do than firing off a gun.

Guns are killing machines, simple as that, and banned they should be.

[overkill]

Originally Posted by Harj

I've recently come back from the USA after a 2 week break , in which time I drove over 2,000 miles, hiked into Grand Canyon, lost money in Vegas, watched LA Galexy play football, chilled at Venice beach and Santa Monica, drove into endless lonely desert roads ,drove up Highway 1, chilled in San Francisco, went to Yosemites national park...And yet some posters would consider shooting a fun hobby instead!!!!!

If I lived in the USA, there are far more better things to do than firing off a gun.

Guns are killing machines, simple as that, and banned they should be.

Sad facts. One of my relatives was threatened (by a Police officer!) with a gun on a trip to the US, while a relative of the wife's was killed by someone with a gun.

Nowhere else, in a family that is spread out across the globe, has that happened.

While gun crime is hardly a 'non issue' in the UK, I doubt very much that the majority can cite that.

[SimonH]

I've alway liked Chris Rocks method of reducing the murder rate in the states, don't bother trying to clean up the guns, just make bullets cost $5,000 each.

"Damm, can't kill that m-******, need to work 3 months to afford the bullet, folks be working their **** out from now on, not shooting their **** out.

On a personal note, guns in a firing range I have no problem with, under proper supervision, I can't see a massive difference between that an archery etc.

It's the insane opinion IMO, that guns don't kill people, people do. Yeah, well when was the last time you saw a gunman hold his hand sidewise pull his "finger" and somebody dropped down dead.

The more easy access guns are the more people die, the more deluded kids can walk into Walmart and get a gun and shoot up the school the more easily accessable they become the more potential for death increases.

Anyway , different discussion I guess, but gun ranges in general, no problem , why not, hit a target, all good fun.

[mrapbp]

Yea cos thats what it is all about........ Same as people with flash sports cars having small ones as well I guess??

Well I have a flash sports car and would LOVE to be a member of a gun club (does that mean I have a small one?)

Cant think of a better way to spend a Saturday afternoon tbh.

OP, I am also very jealous of your brother in-law (apart from having to tollerate Americans on a daily basis!!) perhaps time for a family visit!!

Originally Posted by Gary D

i was lucky the god lord saw fit to "see me alright i the downstairs department" so i dont need to compensate by buying guns.

[biggles1958]

Originally Posted by Harj

I've recently come back from the USA after a 2 week break , in which time I drove over 2,000 miles, hiked into Grand Canyon, lost money in Vegas, watched LA Galexy play football, chilled at Venice beach and Santa Monica, drove into endless lonely desert roads ,drove up Highway 1, chilled in San Francisco, went to Yosemites national park...And yet some posters would consider shooting a fun hobby instead!!!!!

If I lived in the USA, there are far more better things to do than firing off a gun.

Guns are killing machines, simple as that, and banned they should be.

so you want to see clay pigeon/game/vermin control banned?

because you don't like guns does not mean others should be denied their sport/pastime

i game shoot and stalk deer (and a bit of clay pigeon as well) - what harm am i doing?

plenty of people enjoy target shooting - which i have done and its requires great skill - Olympic shooters also train with rifles but must train in Europe with pistols because of our stupid laws

[SimonH]

Originally Posted by biggles1958

plenty of people enjoy target shooting - which i have done and its requires great skill - Olympic shooters also train with rifles but must train in Europe with pistols because of our stupid laws

I don't think generally people have a problem with target shooting or clay pigeon shooting, shooting animals for sport gets on some people's wicks, but I think what most folks object to is any law like the states which makes it possible for any half wit to go and buy something that will allow you to kill multiple human beings with ease.

In my lifetime I have come across numerous folk, who should not under any circumstances be allowed access to gun.

[Gary D]

Originally Posted by biggles1958

i game shoot and stalk deer (and a bit of clay pigeon as well) - what harm am i doing?

well if the deer could type i'm sure they would have an opinion.

It also depends if you go a bit mad like the bloke in london last week - taking pot shots from the windows of his £3 million apartment in chelsea - i believe his gun was legal.


Gary

[biggles1958]

Originally Posted by SimonH

I don't think generally people have a problem with target shooting or clay pigeon shooting, shooting animals for sport gets on some people's wicks, but I think what most folks object to is any law like the states which makes it possible for any half wit to go and buy something that will allow you to kill multiple human beings with ease.

In my lifetime I have come across numerous folk, who should not under any circumstances be allowed access to gun.

but the UK has some of the most stringent gun laws in the world

there was a knee jerk reaction by the govt after Hungerford/Dunblane - it only harmed legal shooters

you cannot legislate against the likes of Ryan/Hamilton because if you want an illegal gun they are easy to buy!

but any halfwit can drive a car? - a licence and insurance being optional extra's?

[biggles1958]

Originally Posted by Gary D

well if the deer could type i'm sure they would have an opinion.

It also depends if you go a bit mad like the bloke in london last week - taking pot shots from the windows of his £3 million apartment in chelsea - i believe his gun was legal.


Gary

actually my old deer might agree with you!!

but an illegal gun is easy to obtain? - there are step by step instructions on the net to build a 9mm machine pistol with very basic machine tools - and the instructions are even linked through Wiki as its a US site

that guy what he deserved - he died!

[eric pisch]

Originally Posted by andykn

Give me the good old "nanny state" every time.

You are as likely to be killed by a gun in the US as be killed in a road accident in the UK.

So, of those spectators who were at the last US NFL superbowl, at least 3 will be killed by guns by the time of the next superbowl.

I heard that, if you buy a gun in the US you are over 20 times more likely to get shot than if you don't.

nanny state scare mongering

some areas are pretty rough but there are alot of areas in the US that have far lower crime rates than the UK, especially as they have vastly more police per person than we do and alot of states are operating zero tolerance