[RMCF]

I have recently started going to a chiropractor.

I have had a long term ankle problem which never responded to physio. I have tried most things but someone mentioned to me that perhaps the ankle problem was just a symptom of another greater problem.

Now I have also had a few hip, lower back and neck problems over the same time, and thought that I'd give chiropractor a try to see if anything improved.

I have had a few sessions and got the X-Rays done and these showed the odd issue. In my sessions I have had something in my neck 'cracked' twice and the rest of the sessions basically involves testing the strength of my main muscles. I am also put on scales that measure the balance of my body.

Now the reason I post this is because the last 2 sessions have lasted about 15mins max (probably closer to 10). I resist as I get my arms pushed down, legs pushed down, neck cracked, and basically not a lot else. This costs £25!!

I have noticed no difference - does anybody know if I will long term?

I am starting to feel that this is all a bit of a 'waffle' treatment. I get too much chat about mental state, stress in life et al while I lie on the table. I am expecting the crystals to come out anytime soon !!

[mjn]

I use a very good one in London, £40 a time, and couldn't recommend him highly enough. Sessions last about 20-40mins depending on how far you through your treatment you are, and what is wrong with you.

You should feel the benefit pretty much immeadiately.

The guy is fantastic, saved me from surgery around 18 months ago!

I go once every 3 months for "tune-up" to make sure i'm still in alignment (hips, back, neck), as they need to be in good condition for my sport.

[RuddyRoad]

There's absolutely no evidence that chiropractice has any proven benefit, and no reason scientifically to suspect it would have. Despite the failings of the NHS, a reasonable marker would be if it isn't available on the NHS, and they want to charge you money for it, then you are wasting your money.

In fact, all these people should hang their heads in shame, as they are conning people over something so precious. Of course the NHS isn't perfect, but also not everything is treatable/curable which is why people will seek other options.

Anyway, I must go, I have to rearrange the crystals on my table as I have a bit of a headache....

[Steven]

I have the view that these "alternative" treatments are not for all... but if they work for you, great. Don't let anyone tell you otherwise. If they don't work for you, then its a shame, but you didn't have anything to lose by trying

[Mep]

Originally Posted by LFC_SL

but you didn't have anything to lose by trying

except your money

[Steven]

And we have the one who blinked first ladies and gents!

imo, yes your wallet is lighter, but honestly the alternative is that you put off trying something which may work. Even if it doesn't imo it'd be worth a go... at least that is how the theory goes

[la gran siete]

Its a case of trial and error and general recomendations If one method doesnt work for you try another I wouldnt write of alternative practices on the basis of what some in the conventional medicine side of things might say. I know for example that one of my sisters was cured of cancer using alternative ways and many others have derived benefit too but its case of finding what works for one.
have you tried an osteopath?

[RuddyRoad]

OK, my advice would be to try and find any evidence (evidence is not anecdotes from individuals) in support of alternative practices. Evidence means peer-reviewed studies that are subject to the same strict criteria as conventional medicine....you won't find any, but have a go.

[la gran siete]

Evidence is based on individual experience,If something works for one then all well anmd good if not try something else.The key is to have an open mind and avoid the crooks and charlatans which sadly exist in all areas.

[Mylo]

Originally Posted by RuddyRoad

OK, my advice would be to try and find any evidence (evidence is not anecdotes from individuals)

if word of mouth is no good then this forum is done mate

[Setenza]

evidence is not anecdotes from individuals

I'd hate to be asked the time by you! I seldom carry an atomic clock

[Knyght_byte]

sometimes these sort of treatments work for people, sometimes they dont.....it could be placebo.....just one thing.....regardless of it being placebo, if they feel better, then it worked....

for example, acupuncture, have had it done a few times, whilst it doesnt have a long term effect on my problems, its probably the most relaxing way to spend half an hour i've found (im in pain all day round and dont sleep a lot) other than filling my lungs with class C products........i got up to a grand total of 60 needles in my back and the back of my legs....heh.....he had to use two cigars (uses a herbal cigar to heat the needles to determine points of stress, the longer it takes to feel the heat, the worse that point....some points i didnt feel it for 10 seconds....normally you'd feel it in 2.....)

anyhow, at £25 a pop its not cheap so i dont go very often....also for the last 5 years while i was working at Loot there was a complimentary massage service to combat RSI......oh, the best bit....and i seriously am not lying here, one of the girls was blonde and called Heidi however she was Kilburn born and bred, not European...lol

Anyhow, no harm in trying, anyone who has pain and isnt prepared to try £30 worth to lose it is a muppet in my opinion......if it doesnt work then they dont hold a gun to your head saying you have to come back....its not a strip bar

[Mr_Wistles]

I have seen one for the past six years on and off. They work without a shadow of a doubt. I noticed a difference immediately.

[mjn]

Originally Posted by RuddyRoad

Evidence means peer-reviewed studies that are subject to the same strict criteria as conventional medicine.

You mean the ones that keep saying ......Coffee is bad for you....Coffee is good for you....Bacon sandwiches give you lung cancer....

Does anybody actually believe these studies?

[Nebby]

Worked for me.

Suffered from a slipped disc / trapped nerve about four years ago. I would hobble into the surgery, and then ten minutes later after some gentle manipulation and a few Jean Claude Van Damme twists of the neck, I would walk out the door un-aided. I payed about £20 a session, and spent about £160 all in - worth every penny.

[fortean]

I visited one because of a lower back problem. I noticed that I felt great straight after the treatment but after a few hours the pain started to come back. I kept going though as I realised that by feeling no pain for a while I was standing and walking properly which gave my muscles time to adjust and get stronger again. After about 8 sessions I was fine and needed no more treatment.

Every now and then I get the feeling the problem is about to return. Since I paid attention to what the chiropractor did I now just get my wife to do the same; well almost the same. It nips it in the bud every time and I've had no trouble now for over 6 years.

[RuddyRoad]

Originally Posted by mjn

You mean the ones that keep saying ......Coffee is bad for you....Coffee is good for you....Bacon sandwiches give you lung cancer....

Does anybody actually believe these studies?

Those would be the same sort of studies that help doctors decide what treatment to give a child dying of leukaemia or a woman with breast cancer or twentysomething with a subarachnoid haemorrhage or a baby with meningitis.....

...maybe doctors should just dish out some healing crystals, cross their fingers and hope for the best.

[Knyght_byte]

Originally Posted by RuddyRoad

Those would be the same sort of studies that help doctors decide what treatment to give a child dying of leukaemia or a woman with breast cancer or twentysomething with a subarachnoid haemorrhage or a baby with meningitis.....

...maybe doctors should just dish out some healing crystals, cross their fingers and hope for the best.

hmm..bit of a difference.......the ones studying whether coffee is good or bad for you are usually funded by either the coffee companies or the tea companies, if it turns out to be beneficial it was funded by the coffee company, if it turns out to be all bad then it was funded by the tea company

research on non-personally inflicted problems however are usually funded by the chemical giants such as Glaxo or by charities......

[Mylo]

MJN beats the out of his body regularly, or others try to do it for him If a chiropractor sorted him out then I'd take that as a recommendation.

I'd tend to take his opinion more seriously than an anonymous study that may be slanted.

[SWMBO]

ummmmmm for me they defo (definitely) worked
I started having trouble 9 yrs ago after i had the 1st rug rat (child) so off i went to the doc's wiv (with) back ache n (and) got told well wot (what) do u (you) expect you've just ad (had) a baby blah blah blah (etcetera) take these pain killers n (and) ull (you'll) b (be) ok. Well that went on for years morn (more) n (and) more tablets, a heap of steriod injections, a couple of op's which involved severing the nerve endings at the base of my spine
anyway a couple of yrs (years) ago the pain was soooo bad n (and) I couldnt walk so off i hobbled to the chiro..... well bugger me (gosh) i walked outta (out of) there an hr (hour) later ,she also got x-rays done which showed that one of my disc had totally worn away basically 8 r so yrs (years) of wear n (and) tear.....if only the doc's had of done sommit (something) about it other than pile me full of painkillers from then on i went 4/5 times a week for few weeks then gradually cut it down now i only go every 2/3 months for a top up

so i would defo (definitely) tell ppl (people) to try em (them) out but i suppose it prob (probably) depends on what (is) wrong wiv (with) ya (you)

[Mep]

what language is that?

[SWMBO]

Originally Posted by Mep

what language is that?

sorry dear maybe a few are too old to understand it.........rofl

[Mep]

or maybe just too English?

[SWMBO]

[The Dude]

Couldn't give a big enough to seeing a decent chiropractor.... for just about everybody in my experiences.


I started seeing one years ago for Neck/Upperback/Lower back problems, and the differences are quite simply beyond any possible doubt.

As does my sister (tension headaches), I think ALL of my close friends, most of my local's Rugby and football teams.....the list is endless really.


1 15min session every 3 months keeps me in perfect trim.

The differences are quite easily measurable, for any budding Einsteins out there.

After a 15 min session at the Chiro, I have 40deg more shoulder rotation, 25-40 deg more hip rotation, my 'wingspan' is 2.5cm greater, my neck doesn't sound like breaking glass every time i turn my head, I can leg-press an extra 30+ kg and I'm 1cm taller. Or is it maybe just all in my mind...


I'd recommend anybody to give one a try, certainly anybody who works at a computer, or as a driver.... you may be quite shocked at how messed up you actually are!


getting your neck cracked is possibly the next best thing to sex IMO, it's quite seriously addictive....

[la gran siete]

Originally Posted by SWMBO

sorry dear maybe a few are too old to understand it.........rofl

nufink to do wiv age me duck

[Mylo]

me duck


text speak with a carrot cruncher slant, what ever next

[mjn]

Originally Posted by Mylo

MJN beats the out of his body regularly, or others try to do it for him

A bit of both really!

But in the last few days, i've taken a nasty kick to the neck, and a punch to the chin which made my neck crunch about 6 times in a row.....can't be good.

I'll be put back together in a few weeks...we have the technology!

[Mylo]

ouchy

[Squiffy]

Originally Posted by The Dude

getting your neck cracked is possibly the next best thing to sex IMO, it's quite seriously addictive....

If you don't get both happening at the same time, you're not doing it right.....