Euro referendum

[Silver Arrow]

Hi Guys

I was made aware of this "No 10" referendum petition. Please consider signing.


>After 16 days of being ignored, delayed, blocked and 2 rants later, my
>EU Referendum petition has finally gone live on the PM's site.
>
>Please consider signing, as we now have just 9 days until Blair signs
>us over to a federalised EU.
>
>http://petitions.pm.gov.uk/ReferendumNOW
>
>Email this to everyone: http://petitions.pm.gov.uk/ReferendumNOW/
>
>We only need 200 signatories to guarantee Blair's forced public
response.
>
>Please spread the word regardless of your particular stance . Many
>people dont know what's entailed by this and a referendum is the only
>fair way to get the pro's n CON's of this issue, debated in the public
eye.

[Mep]

Great, another petition!

I had this emailed to me earlier as well so I'm sure the 200 signatures wont be an issue

[Silver Arrow]

Originally Posted by mep

Great, another petition!

I had this emailed to me earlier as well so I'm sure the 200 signatures wont be an issue

I apprerciate they can get a bit boring, but this is my first....

Maybe last, you never know!

Cheers any way

Andy

[Dave]

We all love petitions in GC.

[Logo Hater]

Originally Posted by Daerve

We all love petitions in GC.

Yes! but some are really worth signing, and this is definately one of them.

[la gran siete]

Originally Posted by Silver Arrow

Hi Guys

I was made aware of this "No 10" referendum petition. Please consider signing.


>After 16 days of being ignored, delayed, blocked and 2 rants later, my
>EU Referendum petition has finally gone live on the PM's site.
>
>Please consider signing, as we now have just 9 days until Blair signs
>us over to a federalised EU.
>
>http://petitions.pm.gov.uk/ReferendumNOW
>
>Email this to everyone: http://petitions.pm.gov.uk/ReferendumNOW/
>
>We only need 200 signatories to guarantee Blair's forced public
response.
>
>Please spread the word regardless of your particular stance . Many
>people dont know what's entailed by this and a referendum is the only
>fair way to get the pro's n CON's of this issue, debated in the public
eye.

Absolutely no way as i am totally in favour of the EC.Its l'Europe uni for meIn fact i am thinking of starting my own petition labelled "Lets make all our citizens learn another European language"

[overkill]

No thanks. I may not be keen on the original treaty, but I'm about as sympathetic with the pro-referendum movement as I am even with the new treaty proposals. As the second treaty has to be signed by all European nations, and two have voted against it in it's first form, then the EU cannot bind us to anything. Hence statements like 'slaves to the EU' and handing over our 'democratic rights to Europe' smack of the sort of ignorance we should never trust to a referendum.

Count me out.

[Dave]

Originally Posted by Logo Hater

Yes! but some are really worth signing, and this is definately one of them.

In your opinion maybe it is. Unfortunately in mine it isn't. That's politics for you.

I'm not in any way knocking the OP, my above comment was just me trying to be a funny git.

[Dave]

I wasn't going to get involved in a political discussion but **** it, I'm with Overkill and LGS.

I really don't understand the fear from a lot of people about the UK and Europe. The propoganda spewed out by some parties is laughable and they never comment on how beneficial it is for us to be part of the EU.

I'm not directing this at anyone in this thread but a lot of people are very ill informed about national issues such as this and only get their information from the gutter press.

A referendum simply means the press end up with their own result and I for one would prefer our fully informed, democratically elected representatives to decide on the issue for me as is the normal practice in a democracy.

[dBrowne]

Of course, none of our informed, democratically elected representatives have ever had to genuflect and curtsy before our media barons.

[Dave]

Originally Posted by dBrowne

Of course, none of our informed, democratically elected representatives have ever had to genuflect and curtsy before our media barons.

Touche.

[indianwells]

I'd come out tommorow given the choice but there you go....

[Jammyb]

You should feel free to express your sexuality, no matter what it may be, but it seems a little off topic.

I'm against referendums in general as the average person is an idiot and nowhere near well informed enough to make a decision on something like this. If it was down to me they wouldn't be allowed to vote at general elections without passing some kind of basic comprehension test. Voting for Big Brother and X-Factor would be their lot.

[Mep]

somebody had to say it!

[stealther]

Originally Posted by Jammyb

You should feel free to express your sexuality, no matter what it may be, but it seems a little off topic.

I'm against referendums in general as the average person is an idiot and nowhere near well informed enough to make a decision on something like this. If it was down to me they wouldn't be allowed to vote at general elections without passing some kind of basic comprehension test. Voting for Big Brother and X-Factor would be their lot.

I can understand your point of view but I hate the fact that the government decides what is best for me. I never voted in this government so nothing they do is for me. I may be an ill informed person when it comes to Europe all I have to go on is a gut feeling and my feeling is I don’t like decisions being made at a national level so making them at European level seems worse.

PS I don’t think the people you worry about voting ever vote other than for extortionist phone in shows like crap factor and big blubber!