[FishDUDE]

what a farce those blind gimps need taken out side and shot, those poor kids, an 8 year old trying to kill herself, the house looking like a junkies squat, the 'parents' leaving there childeren in dirty nappys all day untill the older girl come home from school, the younger kids looked like romanian orphins, filthy, and disturbed. The 'parents' drinking, smoking, riding mobility scooters, reading etc. Not bloody excuse, I dont pay my Taxes so that the social services and criminal justice department can mince about and ignore things like this,


Sorry to rant


But this angered me!

[JamesOD]

I agree 100% with the above, surely they should not be allowed to have kids

[chaddy]

yes same as you, was both saddened and angry at the same time.

[Decadence]

What a sad, depressing program, how these people are allowed to continue to have children and keep them is beyond me. The woman was not only blind but seemed to be a retard as well. It's not right, where are social services and if they are involved with the family why the hell are they not doing their job? The children said they were happy but that is because they were so far removed from a normal life they wouldn't know happy if someone took them to Disney for a holiday and read Mr Happy to them on the plane over to Florida. One of the boys was still wearing a nappy and he looked to be about 4 years old and if that isn't wrong and wilful neglect bordering on abuse I don't know what is.

It is not as though they were completely blind, their biggest problem appeared to be laziness. The man was quite happy to sit there all day and wait until his 12 and 9 year old daughters came home from school to change their dirty children. The woman was so backwards she didn't seem to know what day it was. I successfully changed my son's nappy whilst blindfolded during the program just to prove that it could be done with minimal effort.

"The hospital told us to try for another baby"...what a load of crap, I bet you a million quid that they said no such thing...imagine the poor midwife having to help deliver a baby from that rancid, dirty, stupid, selfish, bearded piece of **** bitch...I feel physically sick.

[lubo]

It sounds terrible and i never thought i would think it but i really feel that people like that should be sterilised. They obviously see well enough to find their fags,lighters and ashtrays.
It didn't appear as if the children ate properly. Children left lying on the floor.
The two daughters now appear to have some mental baggage/problems as a result of their situation. Kids chewing on empty beer cans.
I am disgusted that no-one at social services has seen fit to take some action.
The parents should be charged with neglect.

[RMCF]

Originally Posted by lubo

It sounds terrible and i never thought i would think it but i really feel that people like that should be sterilised. They obviously see well enough to find their fags,lighters and ashtrays.
It didn't appear as if the children ate properly. Children left lying on the floor.
The two daughters now appear to have some mental baggage/problems as a result of their situation. Kids chewing on empty beer cans.
I am disgusted that no-one at social services has seen fit to take some action.
The parents should be charged with neglect.

I'm with you on this one.

I did not even watch the whole program. I knew it was on but flicked over in the middle of it and I saw the blind woman who looked mentally handicapped. Imagine my horror when in the next couple of minutes I discovered that she was allowed to produce children who she then seemed to have no interest in raring. Then went to the father and I was speechless.

This was very sad. I really felt for the daughter who lets face it will have no life. And as mentioned above, how the social services cannot do something about this is beyond me.

I bet they get an absolute fortune in benefits too.

But I suppose if you were to claim that she needs sterilised some busy-body would say you are infringing on her human rights !!

[FishDUDE]

i decided to send an eamil to their local council

Hello
I am sure you have recived a lot of emails regarding tonight program on channel 4. I feel I must ask why are these 'parents' allowed to continue to 'care' for these children?
The squaler in which they live is worse in my opinion then can be expected before the social service would remove them. after an attempted suicide by an eight year old sureley there must have been visits?
These 'parents' are vile excuses for humans, they use there disability as an excuse. for them to leave their children in soiled nappys untill there 'carers' come home from school is neglect.

I think channel 4 are using this 'family' for ratings, however the point is children are suffering, they need removed.

I know there will be an investagation, as I have never been moved enough to contact anyone regarding the subject of a television program, so i guess many more will too.

[RMCF]

Originally Posted by FishDUDE

i decided to send an eamil to their local council

Hello
I am sure you have recived a lot of emails regarding tonight program on channel 4. I feel I must ask why are these 'parents' allowed to continue to 'care' for these children?
The squaler in which they live is worse in my opinion then can be expected before the social service would remove them. after an attempted suicide by an eight year old sureley there must have been visits?
These 'parents' are vile excuses for humans, they use there disability as an excuse. for them to leave their children in soiled nappys untill there 'carers' come home from school is neglect.

I think channel 4 are using this 'family' for ratings, however the point is children are suffering, they need removed.

I know there will be an investagation, as I have never been moved enough to contact anyone regarding the subject of a television program, so i guess many more will too.

Good for you. I bet the complaints tonight are in single figures, compared to the 15,000 for BB. Shows how ****ed up the world is.

[lubo]

I was just thinking how much fun I was having when I was eight and what that girl must be going through to try and commit suicide.
It really is heart breaking.

[Decadence]

What is the address to complain to? Like you I have never been motivated to write to anyone about anything but I woke up thinking about the program this morning and am still depressed by it.

[drskhaled]

Very sad for the kids. The parents to be fair appear to have a degree of learning disability, though it doesnt excuse their selfishness. I agree they shouldnt be having any more kids, but you cannot just sterilise them unfortunately.

There are also problems with putting the children into "care", as they would inevitably be split up as no foster home will take them all on. Also who knows if care homes would be any better. Best bet would be finding a relative to take some of the younger kids on.

As for taxpayers money being spent on selfish people, well thats the price we pay for living in a compassionate society. I'd be more appalled if this family had no money and the kids were severely malnutritioned. I may not like the idea of my hard earned cash going to those parents but the kids deserve as much help as we can afford. Their future is pretty bleak as it is.

[CFC1]

Originally Posted by drskhaled

The parents to be fair appear to have a degree of learning disability, .

Huh! They certainly learned how to have sex ... and their memories aren't affected, obviously!

[FishDUDE]

many people with learning disabilitys are very able to have sex, and infact do have sex, if you have ever been to a collage with departments dealing with them then you will no doubt have seen this in the flesh so too speak.

what I was saying about our hard earned cash is the they give it to them but apear to do nothing to ensure it is used for what it is intended, looking after the kids.

social services can and should intervine, they can have home help and 24 hour carers inplace.

I agree that foster familys can be awful for the children, but really do you think they would be ay worse then what they are subjected to? the only thing these children seem not to suffer from is sexul assault.

I understand that the show was edited for shock value, but if these 'parents' wanted to show them selfs in a good light then they would have made the effort for the cameras, at least changed there kids nappys after all if they can read, pour beers, ride scooters etc, they can see their childrens filthy bums.

or they could have even cleaned some of their children.

[Nobber22]

social services can and should intervine

Is there any local government department more inept than Social Services???

[Jenn]

I watched the program and felt sick and angered.

The baby was in filthy clothing with a dirty nappy on all day while eating breadcrust that was thrown on the filthy floor in front of him.

The parents may be almost blind but they certainly know how to put it on !
They're not blind enough so they can't find their cigarettes, or a beer in the fridge, or read the fish shop menu (and he could well read that). They can clearly see the baby sleeping on the floor etc.
But too blind to feed the baby with a baby bottle? Too blind to pick up a mop or hoover? To blind to bloody hang the washing ??

What told me what it was all about was the dad explaining that if the girl wanted to keep her status as young carer, she had to help around the house. So I bet you the girls get nice benefits for their parents to sit on their a** all day ! And probably why they only want 2 hours social help a week otherwise it probably affects the benefits they get for the girls.
They are sacrificing their kids lives for money so they can be lazy.
It's in keeping with their "We have loads of kids so when we're old they can look after us" moto.

The worse was the part where the 8 year old was changing the boy's full nappy on the lounge carpet, putting the new one on with half the dirt still spread over his legs and bum.
Made me sick.

And I still wonder why social services haven't taken the kids away already. Anything would be better than that, even being split from their siblings.

[Decadence]

This copied and pasted from another website discussing the matter:

"I have spoken today to Louise Bailey (Duty officer Child and families assessment Team, Oxfordshire Council 01295 252421), and she told me that she can't tell me anything about the children but if I would like to write my feelings/thoughts in an email (louise.bailey@oxfordshire.gov.uk) she will pass it on to her Senior. It seems that our views will only be taken seriously if they are put in writing/in an email so please, everyone must email Louise Bailey"

Needless to say I have sent an email.

[mjn]

I missed this, is it repeated?

[Daddy k]

the programme was disgcusting!


the mum and dad "look2 after the youngest all day, while the elder 2 are at school, however nappies do not get changed until they come home!
so from 9am until 4pm (ish) the babies are in dirty nappies!

one child had his bum just changed but still had poo etc on him!


they said they "enjoy having a big family" i bet they do, they dont look after their children, their other children do, and they dont have to go to work!

if the children were dogs the rspca would of been round there by now, taken the dogs away and banned them from owneing animals again!

infact shame the mum and dad aint dogs they could of been neuted! (or whatever its called lol)

the poor kids!
the eldest child hood has been snatched away!
the youngest are used to falling asleep anywhere they can,
not to mention im sure they get a hard time from other children for being as kids would put it "tramps"

the mum n dad seem to have no scense of what they are doing and using their disability as an excuse!

perhaps also id they smoked and drank less they could buy the youngest baby a cot to sleep in rather than the playpen.

i might start a petition to durex to get them to make the instructions on condoms printed in larger print to help people like these

suprised each one of the production team didnt try and take a child home each to properly look after them!

the only reassuring thing is that the kids know no better so think their mum and dad are great!

And the other woman with the 14 year old boy!
what was up with her? other than feeling stiff some mornings??

but she couldnt do cooking ironing etc and he was basically a joey for mummy!
i mean she was well enough to sit there on her ass doing croche or whatever it is she was doing, why cant she sit there and do a bit of ironing so her son can be a boy for a night?

[Jenn]

Originally Posted by Daddy k

i mean she was well enough to sit there on her ass doing croche or whatever it is she was doing, why cant she sit there and do a bit of ironing so her son can be a boy for a night?

Well I thought about that. At some point you see her walking around the kitchen and she seems fine.
She could do the work on good days, with her son helping out rather than doing everything.

[lubo]

Originally Posted by mjn

I missed this, is it repeated?

Got this from annother forum

Programme repeated Friday morning (9th Feb) 3.20am- 4.20am Channel 4.
(Because of timing actually listed under the programmes for Thursday)

[Decadence]

Originally Posted by lubo

Got this from annother forum

Programme repeated Friday morning (9th Feb) 3.20am- 4.20am Channel 4.
(Because of timing actually listed under the programmes for Thursday)

It should be set on everyone's Sky+, DVD recorder, VCR...

A warning though, you become extremely upset and angry after seeing it.

[jodenice]

I've emailed her too. do you think we will ever find out though if anything happened? Hopefully somebody in the actual department was watching (with horror) and barking out orders this morning to an underling to remove them.

Too much to hope though methinks.

[square-eyes-baz]

Cant watch this as this type of subject is too upsetting. They seem to stay with me a long time. All I want to say is if these kids are taken in to care, please let them be kept together.

[FishDUDE]

very unlikley im afraid, but they would be better apart than staying in that hell.