Bird Flu

ufitsy · 03-02-2007, 1:06 AM

looks Bad

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/suffolk/6326587.stm

Hoping its not the H5N1 strain

**Steven** · 03-02-2007, 1:41 AM

A certain inevitability about it and yeah it looks bad.

*RMCF* · 03-02-2007, 2:14 AM

Culture of Fear in full flow.

What about:

'Millions of turkeys killed by Christmas'.

JohnG · 03-02-2007, 8:18 AM

Oh God, does this mean the BBC and other news crews will be camping out there bringing live broadcasts from the fields for the next month

They're bound to go over the top about it as usual.

**Bald Monkey** · 03-02-2007, 9:31 AM

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Oh God, does this mean the BBC and other news crews will be camping out there bringing live broadcasts from the fields for the next month.

Yep, Already caught one of those reports on BBC1 this morning....

You could actually see the Turkey sheds behind her, over the field

JohnG · 03-02-2007, 9:49 AM

That's it, the telly is going in the bin

*Jammyb* · 03-02-2007, 11:52 AM

it is h5n1

*RMCF* · 03-02-2007, 5:53 PM

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it is h5n1

Then why am I still not afraid?

Is it because I have spent years hearing horror stories about how nearly everything is bad for me or is gonna kill me.

Do you honestly see tens of thousands ever dying from this flu like they are continually telling us? Cos I don't ever see it happening.

signs · 03-02-2007, 7:06 PM

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Originally Posted by RMCF

Then why am I still not afraid?

Is it because I have spent years hearing horror stories about how nearly everything is bad for me or is gonna kill me.

Do you honestly see tens of thousands ever dying from this flu like they are continually telling us? Cos I don't ever see it happening.

it's happened a few times through out history already , the Spanish flu (1918) killed between 20 -50 million people

*RMCF* · 03-02-2007, 7:23 PM

Yeah, but medical advances since 1918 have been enormous.

We aren't going to have hundreds of thousands or millions dying from bird flu.

sharger · 03-02-2007, 7:28 PM

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Originally Posted by JohnG

Oh God, does this mean the BBC and other news crews will be camping out there bringing live broadcasts from the fields for the next month

They're bound to go over the top about it as usual.

Its not going 'over the top'...... This could be disastrous. At higher levels in key critical industries a hell of a lot of contingency has been discussed and formed ready to put into place if god forbid the disease crosses the species barrier.

This could potentially be catastrophic and as others have said, replicate some of the major events in world history.

sharger · 03-02-2007, 7:33 PM

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Originally Posted by RMCF

Yeah, but medical advances since 1918 have been enormous.

We aren't going to have hundreds of thousands or millions dying from bird flu.

There is no vaccine for this 'flu' as we yet don't know what it looks like in a mutated human form. The drugs that would be available will be the ones for current strains and no one knows if this will have any effect. These stocks are also in limited supply and I guess will be distributed accordingly... gov officials, police, army, doctors etc.

OldAndSenile · 03-02-2007, 7:57 PM

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Originally Posted by sharger

Its not going 'over the top'...... This could be disastrous. At higher levels in key critical industries a hell of a lot of contingency has been discussed and formed ready to put into place if god forbid the disease crosses the species barrier.

This could potentially be catastrophic and as others have said, replicate some of the major events in world history.

True, but if the disease hasn't become an epidemic an a densely populated place like China, where many people quite literally live with their chickens, the chances of it becoming widespread in this country are next to zero.

Still, it won't stop the press having a field day, some very nasty people cashing in on the fear, and some very vulnerable people getting even more scared to step out of their front doors than they are already.

I don't know about you, but I don't spend 13 hours a day inhaling bird poop like the people in Asia who caught the disease did.

signs · 03-02-2007, 9:29 PM

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Originally Posted by RMCF

Yeah, but medical advances since 1918 have been enormous.

We aren't going to have hundreds of thousands or millions dying from bird flu.

are you asking me , or telling me ?

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I don't know about you, but I don't spend 13 hours a day inhaling bird poop like the people in Asia who caught the disease did.

when did you last eat turkey or a chicken ?

i had some KFC tonight .........hey ho

pave · 03-02-2007, 9:40 PM

What bird flu.....i just made a nest and laid an egg...i'm ok.........

krish · 03-02-2007, 10:08 PM

I've been trying really hard to think of a joke with "bootiful" in it

Uridium · 03-02-2007, 10:40 PM

Amazes me you'd even be trying to joke about it

pave · 03-02-2007, 11:03 PM

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Amazes me you'd even be trying to joke about it

Explain.......

Mr.D · 03-02-2007, 11:07 PM

Jokes should always if possible be made in every situation.
If the jokes ever stop then we are really in the poop.

Uridium · 03-02-2007, 11:10 PM

For a start BM employ close to 7,000 people. Many of them in lower paid jobs and the poultry farming industry as a whole employs hundreds of thousands of people in the UK.

If Bernard Matthews farms can be infected this easily then it doesn't bode well for other less clinical operations. Remember the devastating effect the BSE infection had on the uk farming industry?

Time will tell but i can forsee the same happening again

krish · 03-02-2007, 11:33 PM

its not as if BM have a great reputation for Turkey welfare

- news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/norfolk/5324320.stm

04-02-2007, 6:26 AM

what? no such thing, this is all governement hype and birdflue doesn't really exist..

signs · 04-02-2007, 9:03 AM

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what? no such thing, this is all governement hype and birdflue doesn't really exist..

fantastic .........i never for one moment thought somebody would say it is all a conspiracy

**johnscarlet** · 04-02-2007, 1:52 PM

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Originally Posted by OldAndSenile

True, but if the disease hasn't become an epidemic an a densely populated place like China, where many people quite literally live with their chickens, the chances of it becoming widespread in this country are next to zero.

Still, it won't stop the press having a field day, some very nasty people cashing in on the fear, and some very vulnerable people getting even more scared to step out of their front doors than they are already.

I don't know about you, but I don't spend 13 hours a day inhaling bird poop like the people in Asia who caught the disease did.

Well said

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Originally Posted by signs

when did you last eat turkey or a chicken ?

i had some KFC tonight .........hey ho

The meat is ok once its cooked , it kills the disease off , or so I heard on 5Live this morning . On the other hand was your KFC raw ?

John

chriszzzzzz · 04-02-2007, 1:59 PM

My wife says that they should all carry on and stop whinging. Exactly the same as she said to me last week when I had the Flu. Women eh!

Singh400 · 04-02-2007, 3:12 PM

Meh not scared. Call me when it mutates into the human strain then we can start panicking.

*drinks some tea*

Damn this tea really is bootiful...

Yes I know that was poor, I'm sorry...

*hangs head in shame*

ufitsy · 04-02-2007, 4:44 PM

Not so sure its such a good idea to transport the gassed bird carcasses to Staffordshire for incineration - even if they are in sealed lorries.

njp · 04-02-2007, 4:58 PM

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Not so sure its such a good idea to transport the gassed bird carcasses to Staffordshire for incineration - even if they are in sealed lorries.

I presume that's where the appropriate incineration facilities are, so they have to be transported there somehow. Not a good idea to just burn them in-situ, like they did with the BSE-risk carcases. This stuff is in a different league of virulence.

*RMCF* · 04-02-2007, 5:25 PM

If we have no vaccine, then what are the people entering the plant being given. I heard on the news that anyone who has to visit the site is receiving a vaccine.

As for my doubts about the whole thing - well I'm sorry but I have just a little cynical after listening to scare tactics all my life.

This week alone we were told that the planet is dying and we are all doomed, and then while we were relling from that they hit us with bird flu. I now take EVERY scare story with a pinch of salt. I don't lose any sleep over any of them, and won't ever.

Cos lets be honest, if the bird flu hadn't have appeared, there would have been some other castasrophy waiting round the corner.

Live your life - **** is gonna happen.

sharger · 04-02-2007, 6:22 PM

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Originally Posted by RMCF

If we have no vaccine, then what are the people entering the plant being given. I heard on the news that anyone who has to visit the site is receiving a vaccine.

As for my doubts about the whole thing - well I'm sorry but I have just a little cynical after listening to scare tactics all my life.

This week alone we were told that the planet is dying and we are all doomed, and then while we were relling from that they hit us with bird flu. I now take EVERY scare story with a pinch of salt. I don't lose any sleep over any of them, and won't ever.

Cos lets be honest, if the bird flu hadn't have appeared, there would have been some other castasrophy waiting round the corner.

Live your life - **** is gonna happen.

The vaccine they are being given is Tamiflu...... This drug is designed to combat current strains.... Not any future mutations, but is better than nothing.

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