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12-12-2006, 6:10 PM
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Ipswich Area 5th Body Found
This is just awful. Two more bodies found today. There is some maniac out there and let us hope they catch him ASAP. So disturbing that we still have serial killers in this day and age.
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12-12-2006, 6:13 PM
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It won't be long before they catch the psycho, it's almost as if he wants to be caught.
A disturbing situation without a doubt.
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12-12-2006, 6:18 PM
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Fingers crossed he is caught soon.
I think this is going to reignite the debate about legalisation of prostitution. If these women were able to work legally in regulated premises, they'd be far safer.
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12-12-2006, 6:23 PM
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Fingers crossed he is caught soon.
I think this is going to reignite the debate about legalisation of prostitution. If these women were able to work legally in regulated premises, they'd be far safer.
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I agree, a walk round Amsterdam's red light district really does show you how it should be done. I didn't find it anywhere near as seedy as some of the red light districts round here.
There will always be prostitutes and a plentiful supply of punters so why not legalise it and make it safer for everyone. The government could even tax it.
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12-12-2006, 6:28 PM
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Well I hope that the police nationwide take heed of what is happening and change their policing tactics accordingly. They should be out there protecting prostitutes in red light areas now as who know where this sicko will go next. There were a lot of lessons to be learned after Peter Sutcliffe, I hope they have sunk in.
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12-12-2006, 6:30 PM
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this is all happening a few miles up the road from me, makes me wonder if its some dudes wife and she caught him kerb crawling! and is now taking revenge on the prostitute community!
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12-12-2006, 6:57 PM
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There will always be prostitutes and a plentiful supply of punters so why not legalise it and make it safer for everyone.
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I'm pretty sure that prostitution per se isn't actually illegal here, and never has been. Soliciting is (by the customer or service provider), as is running a brothel, which I believe is defined as two or more girls working at the same premises.
I agree it would be much better if the girls were allowed to work in a safer, controlled environment as is the case in many other countries. But of course, that means dealing with the objections from the suburban puritans who foam at the mouth and write to The Times every time this idea is mentioned.
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12-12-2006, 7:07 PM
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I'm pretty sure that prostitution per se isn't actually illegal here, and never has been. Soliciting is (by the customer or service provider), as is running a brothel, which I believe is defined as two or more girls working at the same premises.
I agree it would be much better if the girls were allowed to work in a safer, controlled environment as is the case in many other countries. But of course, that means dealing with the objections from the suburban puritans who foam at the mouth and write to The Times every time this idea is mentioned.
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Another case of the NIMBY'S.
The prostitutes in Holland even have to keep their nails short so as not to harm their clients.
It's crazy that in this day and age prostitution is forced underground. I'm not saying Holland has it perfect but surely it's better and safer for all involved to have the sex industry regulated and controlled.
To be fair to the police here though they rarely prosecute the prostitutes themselves, much better to go after the punters.
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12-12-2006, 7:23 PM
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its a very bad situation, hope they catch the killer/killers soon
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12-12-2006, 7:23 PM
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Another case of the NIMBY'S.
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That's certainly a part of it. The other aspect are the 'Enraged of Tunbridge Wells' types who take the view that if this sort of filth is encouraged we will all become depraved sex maniacs, and possibly even decide that a cup of tea is not the preferred option after all. It just isn't British you know.
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The prostitutes in Holland even have to keep their nails short so as not to harm their clients.
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I have to admire the trouble you have taken in your research
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12-12-2006, 7:30 PM
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I have to admire the trouble you have taken in your research 
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I've been to Amsterdam a few times but have never indulged in the local pleasures (except for the excellent herbal cigarettes).
It is funny though how some people think legalising something is akin to encouraging it. I think decriminalisation is a much better term than legalise.
The question is if prostitution were decriminalised would any of those 5 women still be with us and the answer is probably yes.
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12-12-2006, 7:35 PM
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Re: Ipswich Area 5th Body Found
Do you think it's the illegal nature of prostitution that's motivating the killer?
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12-12-2006, 7:44 PM
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my fear now is that the prostitutes in the area will no doubt not be out or on their guard, the killer might start to go for other women whenever getting the chance.
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12-12-2006, 7:48 PM
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I've been to Amsterdam a few times but have never indulged in the local pleasures (except for the excellent herbal cigarettes).
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It is ideal for window shopping too. I went to a live sex show there once (obviously by accident) and was surprised to see as many women as men in the audience
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The question is if prostitution were decriminalised would any of those 5 women still be with us and the answer is probably yes.
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I agree. But nothing changed after Sutcliffe, and I suspect these latest tragic incidents will change nothing either. In this country we seem much better at ranting a little and then forgetting about things and hoping that they don't happen again, than we are at taking decisive action that might actually make a difference.
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12-12-2006, 7:51 PM
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Re: Ipswich Area 5th Body Found
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Do you think it's the illegal nature of prostitution that's motivating the killer?
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Possibly. The odd nature of the killings also means it may not be a man. So, the nature of the victims is key, regardless of the killers gender.
What's even more worrying is the pace of the attacks. The Killer seems to be becoming more active - and therefore bold as they get away with each one.
Serial killers still with us? They seem to be more common in the modern World.
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