Power station protesters

JohnG · 31-08-2006, 8:28 AM

I see another bunch of morons are trying to get a coal fired power station closed down

They are saying that this power station (which contributes 7% of our power) should be closed down and replaced with cleaner alternatives, which are what ?
These people never give us a solution do they ! They would protest against nuclear power, they would not want wind farms building near them so what can we do ? To replace this power station with with power would probably mean the whole of Yorkshire being covered with wind generators.

Daddy k · 31-08-2006, 9:11 AM

and next month theyl be on watchdog complaining at the cost of fuels due to us having to buy it in from other countries

JohnG · 31-08-2006, 9:51 AM

But if they have no solution, how on earth can they justify trying to force the shutdown of something that provides a lot of our power ? Do they want us to be totally at the mercy of the Russians for our power ?
Anyone who can afford to give up 10 days to do this is either too wealthy for their own good or on the dole in my experience, a lot of people who go around the country protesting at one thing after another have never had a job so I don't think they have a right to say what goes on in this country until they have contributed in taxes.
My God I'm turning into Nick_UK

tomson · 31-08-2006, 10:23 AM

Can't say I agree with you there John - you only have to look at the number of ordinary locals who get involved in protests around the country to see that not everyone conforms to the unwashed/doley/dog-on-a-rope stereotype. Newbury bypass, live calf exports, fox hunting etc etc - all greatly supported by everyday people with jobs and families. I have a lot of respect for people that get off their arses and do something about the environment they live in.

JohnG · 31-08-2006, 10:33 AM

You mean people like swampy and his mob ? It's usually people like him who have nothing better do do with their lives or local people objecting to something that might ruin their £750,000 house. Near me there were people up in trees for about a year protesting about a housing development on an old pit site, 99% of these people had nothing to do with this area and were not wanted here. They didn't have to live with a derelict pit site and all the problems that brings, all they were interested in was saving 3 old beach trees

I do get over-annoyed about these people who tour the country looking for their next protest as these people never have a solution and always blame the capitalist governments etc.

mij · 31-08-2006, 10:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JohnG

You mean people like swampy and his mob ? It's usually people like him who have nothing better do do with their lives or local people objecting to something that might ruin their £750,000 house. Near me there were people up in trees for about a year protesting about a housing development on an old pit site, 99% of these people had nothing to do with this area and were not wanted here. They didn't have to live with a derelict pit site and all the problems that brings, all they were interested in was saving 3 old beach trees

I do get over-annoyed about these people who tour the country looking for their next protest as these people never have a solution and always blame the capitalist governments etc.

These people do have solutions, you just dont like or agree with them.

JohnG · 31-08-2006, 10:48 AM

Their solutions are sun and wind and bio-diesel, yes very workable when you consider that every wind farm project that is suggested now is strongly opposed by those living nearby. My local paper is full of opposition to a wind farm they want to build in Rainworth.
Have a look at their site, they are against all forms of power that we use currently and don't have the sense to realise that we can't power the whole country using their alternatives. I still believe we need a couple of big nuclear power plants to provide as much energy as possible combined with offshore wind farms and cheap solar panels for consumers like us. The price of solar panels is far too high for normal people to be able to afford.
Again, it just smacks of a bunch of vegetarian left wingers with nothing better to do as far as I'm concerned

PS - please excuse me today as I'm in a grumpy mood

JohnG · 31-08-2006, 10:50 AM

They also have no consideration for the 500+ workers who would lose their jobs if they had their way and the plant was closed down, not to mention the coal mines that would have to close due to not having a market.

JohnG · 31-08-2006, 10:53 AM

Apologies to any normal vegetarians out there who don't feel the need to lecture us all how we should live our lives

mrtbag · 31-08-2006, 10:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tomson

Newbury bypass.

I live in Newbury, and most of the protesters were from other parts of the country. The majority of locals supported the plan, to ease the town centre traffic. Swampy and his gang, just jump on the bandwagon of any dispute. Why should we accept poeple who's lives aren't directly affected by a particular situation protesting on our behalf. The Council/Planners etc, asked Newbury residents what they thought of the plan. Swampy and his mates didn't. They just took over town for months, expecting to be thanked for doing us a favour.

JohnG · 31-08-2006, 11:05 AM

Quote:

Lets hope folks aren't badly hurt today

Agreed

I wonder if it's possible to generate power from a little windmill-type-thingy about the same size as a satellite dish ? This would be useful if every household could generate a little bit of power from one of these.

I hear swampy has heart problems ..... but has refused a bypass

I'll get my coat !

tomson · 31-08-2006, 11:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JohnG

You mean people like swampy and his mob ?

No the normal people who live there - swampy made good TV (well, TV)

Quote:

Originally Posted by mrtbag

I live in Newbury, and most of the protesters were from other parts of the country.

Oh yeah? I have family in Newbury who openly supported the protest - as did many of their neighbours and friends, some of whom were interviewed on various news and tv progs specifically about the subject of out of town protesters. Plenty was written about it in the papers - have a google, there's loads of it archived.

Quote:

Originally Posted by JohnG

PS - please excuse me today as I'm in a grumpy mood

mrtbag · 31-08-2006, 12:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tomson

Oh yeah? I have family in Newbury who openly supported the protest - as did many of their neighbours and friends, some of whom were interviewed on various news and tv progs specifically about the subject of out of town protesters. Plenty was written about it in the papers - have a google, there's loads of it archived.

Why would I need to google. I saw it for myself. As i said, the anti mob were just bandwagon jumpers or people who lived on the outskirts of Newbury (where the bypass was being placed). The majority of people who lived in Newbury town itself, were fed up of having to queue behind lorry after lorry just to nip down the shops.

gpa · 31-08-2006, 12:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mij

These people do have solutions, you just dont like or agree with them.

And those solutions are?

tomson · 31-08-2006, 12:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mrtbag

Why would I need to google. I saw it for myself. As i said, the anti mob were just bandwagon jumpers or people who lived on the outskirts of Newbury blah blah blah

If you say so.

mij · 31-08-2006, 12:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gpa

And those solutions are?

Google the Greens and all other similar groups websites if you realy dont know what their solutions are.

mrtbag · 31-08-2006, 12:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tomson

If you say so.

Good, as long we agree then.

gpa · 31-08-2006, 12:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mij

Google the Greens and all other similar groups websites if you realy dont know what their solutions are.

Can't be arsed, nothing changes, because of the time scales involved the viable option is nuke, wind/wave farms are way way to inefficient and always will be.

mij · 31-08-2006, 12:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gpa

Can't be arsed, nothing changes, because of the time scales involved the viable option is nuke, wind/wave farms are way way to inefficient and always will be.

Then why ask me? Or was you assuming I was a green leftie with an axe to grind.

Daddy k · 31-08-2006, 12:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JohnG

I hear swampy has heart problems ..... but has refused a bypass

I'll get my coat !

.

perhaps new housing developments should be required that each house has solar panels fitted to assist in eleccy, perhaps even that power is stored to a place thats only consumed by lighting circuits? water heater circuits?

all i know is with the cost of my bills the past 2 years, if id of saved it im sure i could of built my own nuclear power station from parts sourced from russian ebay

gpa · 31-08-2006, 12:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mij

Then why ask me? Or was you assuming I was a green leftie with an axe to grind.

Possibly

mij · 31-08-2006, 1:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gpa

Possibly

Mylo · 31-08-2006, 5:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gpa

Can't be arsed, nothing changes, because of the time scales involved the viable option is nuke, wind/wave farms are way way to inefficient and always will be.

Nope, I think the answer lies in bull****. Or at least using all the methane gas produced by that type of waste

Something needs to be done thats for sure. Locally there was a massive fire in a waste paper storage facillity. The paper is used to power a large portion of the Slough Trading Estate, which is huge. Ignoring the obvious risk of accidents I thought this was a superb use of unrecycleable paper.