[realitybites]

UK NATIONAL LOTTERY ONLINE PROMOTION

Received an e-mail from this company

The National Lottery
P O Box 1010
Liverpool, L70 1NL
UNITED KINGDOM

Don't think you get anything for nothing in this lifetime but JUST IN CASE

[Knyght_byte]

whats the actual contents though of the mail?

[Karlmac]

The address checks out, try typing the postcode into Google, but a scam E-mail is just as likely to contain a genuine address as a scam one.

Are they stating that you have won any money?

[realitybites]

Have been told it is a share of 1 and a half million. Have severe reservations as never enter the lottery.

[Mr.D]

Phone up camelot and see what they say . Can't see how you've won something if you never enter though.

[Karlmac]

What size share? It could be tiny. How can you have won if you did not enter?

If you really want to be sure go independently to the official National lottery website (do not follow any links in the mail you have been sent). Try and find reference to the competition there and they reply to them using an official E-mail address from their main site.

[Mr Cat]

no wonder these scams keep going - if people think that they have actually won something without buying a ticket or whatever...

[realitybites]

It sounds feasible as they say the ticket was generated through a site I regularly use and randomly pick an e-mail address from a number of affiliate sites. Link does go to "A" national lottery site, legit is another matter.

[Reign-Mack]

Originally Posted by Mr Cat

no wonder these scams keep going - if people think that they have actually won something without buying a ticket or whatever...

could not agree more this thread should not even exist.

[JohnG]

I remember someone posting this before on here and it turned out to be another scam. Typing that "P O Box 1010" into Google quickly turned up a few pages about internet scams.

[Reign-Mack]

all it takes is typing the subject of the email and putting + Scam and using google for a few seconds

http://www.google.co.uk/search?hl=en...ION+scam&meta=

http://www.hoax-slayer.com/uk-national-lottery.html

Can't believe people (grown people) still fall for this crap.

"oh it could be real maybe I have won a few grand without doing anything and they chose to contact me by email... "

[realitybites]

Thanks JohnG, and to reign-mack, for myself and anyone else who may be frowned upon for only recently being drawn into this type of scam and maybe, just maybe feel a little intimidated, even vulnerable, I am glad for all the other members positive input. htmFor any one else who has, or will be e-pproaced, the following taken from another site with scammers sites, names etc

http://www.data-wales.co.uk/nigerian_lottery2.

[realitybites]

Sorry
http://www.data-wales.co.uk/nigerian_lottery2.htm

[Gadget Daddy]

i had 1 also from the same address its a scam mate just bin it

[realitybites]

Thanks Pete, have realised after a bit of scouring the net. Saying that I would always ask for a second opinion, and the AV forums tends to attract a more intelligent, sensible and understanding type of being ( with the odd exception, of course).

Originally Posted by realitybites

UK NATIONAL LOTTERY ONLINE PROMOTION

Received an e-mail from this company

The National Lottery
P O Box 1010
Liverpool, L70 1NL
UNITED KINGDOM

Don't think you get anything for nothing in this lifetime but JUST IN CASE

Post that header for that email and we can do a check on the i.p and see whos doing scams like this

EDIT Its a legit address but its a scam considering if you google L70 1NL on the http://maps.google.co.uk youll see that goes back to a university no lottery commisions use a building thats owned by another person.

[realitybites]

Thanks for that, I have the following in the from box
"ukfinaldrawlt02_2006" <ukfinaldrawlt02_2006@terra.com.mx>

http://www.terra.com.mx/default.aspx

That email address was sent from a user of that internet providers service

Also i could do a check up on ukfinaldrawlt02_2006@terra.com.mx and see if its registered on any blacklist.

How ever that is not a Uk Internet provider so they lied when they said ukfinaldraw on that email addy. Its some spanish idiot trying to pull a fast one give tera an email telling them what hes up to. Hell soon have a visit from the cops.

I would also suggest anyone receiving scam lottery emails saves them to their computer, Takes a screenshot and print out a copie and then forward this to the offenders ISP. Do a whois on their i.p address to find out who to report them to.

[Reign-Mack]

its very easy to hoax email addresses.

[Knyght_byte]

Originally Posted by Reign-Mack

its very easy to hoax email addresses.

do it so often you got it down pat then?



sadly those of us who have used the net for a long time are used to this and know all about it, some people new to the net may not realise the way these scams work, being a little less harsh on them and just explaining it wouldnt cost any more than telling them they are dumb for believing it....

[Reign-Mack]

Originally Posted by Knyght_byte

do it so often you got it down pat then?



sadly those of us who have used the net for a long time are used to this and know all about it, some people new to the net may not realise the way these scams work, being a little less harsh on them and just explaining it wouldnt cost any more than telling them they are dumb for believing it....

Yep hoax my mail address all the time when I'm suppose to be emailing people from work....

second point, op has been here since June 2003... how long does it take to learn to use google to question things that look questionable?

[Reign-Mack]

check this poor bugger out
http://www.scam.com/showpost.php?p=50313&postcount=2

...acutally sent them $890.65 so they could courier my winnings to me, ($285,902.00 USD).

sorry you don't have to be net savvy or pr0 to find that a bit fishy SMH

[Knyght_byte]

Originally Posted by Reign-Mack

Yep hoax my mail address all the time when I'm suppose to be emailing people from work....

second point, op has been here since June 2003... how long does it take to learn to use google to question things that look questionable?

415 posts since joining....so possibly not a heavy net user?

i know people in my office who have been using the net for 5 years or more, but very rarely and quite often mainly only for email......they can still be ignorant to these cons....(i will admit that some of these cons are rather obvious and people are a bit daft to believe handing over money is necessary to claim a prize......but there is no need to berate them in a public forum for it)

thing is, even intelligent people who are wised up to the way the world works fall for scams......as a loose example.....

i work for Loot, the classified ads paper......now one piece of advice i tell people who are selling cars and want them sold quick (usually putting quick sale in the advert) is not to take a deposit unless its a good 40% or more of the asking price........reason being you often get people will go along, give a £50 deposit on a £2k car...tell the owner they'll be back in a week.......so a week later, no one turns up, mobiles switched off.......so the owner puts the car back in, frustrated despite making £50 as they need to sell the car.....so to encourage a quicker sale as they only had a couple calls last time, they knock £200 or so off the price.......guess who turns up? a friend or relative of the first person........we know this happens because on a few occasions they've actually been cheeky enough to have the original person who was interested waiting just around the corner to be picked up by the buyer........the sellers who've seen this happen have called us to complain but not a lot we can do, we arnt part of the sale like ebay.........yet some of the people who've fallen for this are not stupid.....they've just never seen the scam before......would you have twigged?...i'd be surprised if you would, seeing as almost none of the people i warn about this considered it a possibility.....

[Reign-Mack]

Originally Posted by Knyght_byte

415 posts since joining....so possibly not a heavy net user?

i know people in my office who have been using the net for 5 years or more, but very rarely and quite often mainly only for email......they can still be ignorant to these cons....(i will admit that some of these cons are rather obvious and people are a bit daft to believe handing over money is necessary to claim a prize......but there is no need to berate them in a public forum for it)

thing is, even intelligent people who are wised up to the way the world works fall for scams......as a loose example.....

i work for Loot, the classified ads paper......now one piece of advice i tell people who are selling cars and want them sold quick (usually putting quick sale in the advert) is not to take a deposit unless its a good 40% or more of the asking price........reason being you often get people will go along, give a £50 deposit on a £2k car...tell the owner they'll be back in a week.......so a week later, no one turns up, mobiles switched off.......so the owner puts the car back in, frustrated despite making £50 as they need to sell the car.....so to encourage a quicker sale as they only had a couple calls last time, they knock £200 or so off the price.......guess who turns up? a friend or relative of the first person........we know this happens because on a few occasions they've actually been cheeky enough to have the original person who was interested waiting just around the corner to be picked up by the buyer........the sellers who've seen this happen have called us to complain but not a lot we can do, we arnt part of the sale like ebay.........yet some of the people who've fallen for this are not stupid.....they've just never seen the scam before......would you have twigged?...i'd be surprised if you would, seeing as almost none of the people i warn about this considered it a possibility.....

berate tough love ...Sorry but that loot scam is not along the lines of "Hello Mr/Sir Generic email address you never play the lottery but you have won 200k, all you have to do is send us £700 so that we can deliver the money to you!"

Ive some good news it seems this person has been caught

INTERNATIONAL LOTTERY SCAMS

“Congratulations! You may receive a certified check for up to $400,000,000 U.S. CASH! One Lump sum! Tax free! Your odds to WIN are 1-6.” “Hundreds of U.S. citizens win every week using our secret system! You can win as much as you want!”

Sound great? It’s a fraud.
Scam operators — often based in Canada — are using the telephone and direct mail to entice U.S. consumers to buy chances in high-stakes foreign lotteries from as far away as Australia and Europe. These lottery solicitations violate U.S. law, which prohibits the cross-border sale or purchase of lottery tickets by phone or mail.

Still, federal law enforcement authorities are intercepting and destroying millions of foreign lottery mailings sent or delivered by the truckload into the U.S. And consumers, lured by prospects of instant wealth, are responding to the solicitations that do get through — to the tune of $120 million a year, according to the U.S. Postal Inspection Service.

The Federal Trade Commission (FTC), the nation’s consumer protection agency, says most promotions for foreign lotteries are likely to be phony. Many scam operators don’t even buy the promised lottery tickets. Others buy some tickets, but keep the “winnings” for themselves. In addition, lottery hustlers use victims’ bank account numbers to make unauthorized withdrawals or their credit card numbers to run up additional charges.

The FTC has these words of caution for consumers who are thinking about responding to a foreign lottery:

* If you play a foreign lottery — through the mail or over the telephone — you’re violating federal law.
* There are no secret systems for winning foreign lotteries. Your chances of winning more than the cost of your tickets are slim to none.
* If you purchase one foreign lottery ticket, expect many more bogus offers for lottery or investment “opportunities.” Your name will be placed on “sucker lists” that fraudulent telemarketers buy and sell.
* Keep your credit card and bank account numbers to yourself. Scam artists often ask for them during an unsolicited sales pitch.

The bottom line, according to the FTC: Ignore all mail and phone solicitations for foreign lottery promotions. If you receive what looks like lottery material from a foreign country, give it to your local postmaster.

The FTC works for the consumer to prevent fraudulent, deceptive and unfair business practices in the marketplace and to provide information to help consumers spot, stop, and avoid them. To file a complaint or to get free information on consumer issues, visit www.ftc.gov or call toll-free, 1-877-FTC-HELP (1-877-382-4357); TTY: 1-866-653-4261. The FTC enters Internet, telemarketing, identity theft, and other fraud-related complaints into Consumer Sentinel, a secure, online database available to hundreds of civil and criminal law enforcement agencies in the U.S. and abroad.

[IronGiant]

Originally Posted by Reign-Mack

check this poor bugger out
http://www.scam.com/showpost.php?p=50313&postcount=2


Quote:
...acutally sent them $890.65 so they could courier my winnings to me, ($285,902.00 USD).

sorry you don't have to be net savvy or pr0 to find that a bit fishy SMH

A $1000 to courier the winnings, was it in loose change?


Dave

[JohnD76]

How stupid was that woman! $900 for couriering money, does she not have a bank account?

I won USD on the UK lottery I never played, aren't I lucky! No you are very very stupid.

[midiman]

Rember seeing a documentry about this recently. It is highly organised and is amazing the amount of people who fall for this. All inevitably from abroad. One particular syndicate seemd to be run by Nigerians based in Spain. A number of them seem to be based in Canada whom origionly were scamming people in the US. They have coaught on to them now so have turned there sites to our shores. I guess we are considered the next most gullable