any criminal case solicitors?

[Daddy k]

a very close friend is getting worried about a case he has coming up regarding theft/fraud (one or the other not sure which)

hes got a mortgage to look after, 1 kid and past offences to do with dishonesty but nothing over the last 4 years i think.

any guidelines on sentencing/rough idea on what sort of punishment he will receive for a £12k fraud?

is there anything i can do with his mortgage? reduced payments etc due to his circumstance?
i said ill try and look after things for him while hes "away" (and no not his mrs! see i know u guys too well )

[Lawrenzini]

Good look with this one, you know how people on here love to put the boot in on anyone who doesn't uphold their perfect moral standards.

[shahedz]

a very good freind of mine is a criminal law barrister, so i could ask him for you tomorrow. he may need to know some specifics about the case, il ask him tomorrow and if needs some specifics will drop you a PM.

[Mr.D]

Originally Posted by krismc

a very close friend is getting worried about a case he has coming up regarding theft/fraud (one or the other not sure which)

He'll have some sort of representation . I'd have thought his own legal representative will have a reasonable idea of what sentence he's looking at if he's convicted.

[Daddy k]

he wants to build up a bigger picture of what to expect.
also any ideas on his mortage so they can keep the house?

[Decadence]

Would they send someone to prison for a £12,000 fraud?

[Mr.D]

I would have thought so , especially if he's got previous convictions.

[Decadence]

seems a bit harsh.

[unique]

his lawyer should be able to answer these questions, or citizens advice

if he is put away, his wife might be able to claim tax credits or benefits, housing allowance etc to stop them being turfed out. as there is a kid involved the government would probably step in to help out, particularly if the wife and kid are innocent

he should also have a serious word with his bank/mortgage company. i don't think the bank would be able to throw his wife and kids out easily, at worst the council would probably have to rehouse them first

[Mr Cat]

Originally Posted by Decadence

Would they send someone to prison for a £12,000 fraud?

I know someone who got 6 months for punching a bloke twice - tho he was badly cut - was in jesmond too!

[Decadence]

yeah, someone I know had a guy punch him and when he fought back the guy had a fit and had to be brought back to life. Got sent down for 2 years in Hull!

[Mr.D]

Originally Posted by Mr Cat

I know someone who got 6 months for punching a bloke twice - tho he was badly cut - was in jesmond too!

That's a violent crime though carries tougher sentences. I was potentially looking at GBH with intent a few years back ....maximum sentence life imprisonment.

Seemed a bit harsh at the time considering I was the one that was attacked and the attacker effectively injured himself whilst beating me up....all turned out fine in the end. Huge waste of taxpayers money though.

[binbag]

Was the money recovered or repaid?

[Mrs AutomanUK]

The guy has got previous.. he clearly did not learn his lesson the first time. I know it sounds harsh, but sorry mate, he deserves everything he gets. I feel sorry for the wife and kid, that is very sad, but his circumstance has been brought on by his own shadey dealings and if the warnings he got before did not scare him into stopping it, then surely a custodial sentence will. First time offence, a custodial sentence is maybe too harsh, but a repeated offender... that's not on.

My apologies if this offends. I don't mean to sound cruel.

[Gadget Daddy]

re: mortgage get him to phone his mortgage company and put the number of years to maximum (35 years I think) that should bring it down enourmously, I did this before when hard times where upon me went from 20 years to 30 nearly 50% off.

HTH
Pete