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Old 03-05-2006, 10:04 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Massaoui, the only convicted terrorist in conjunction with the 11/9 attacks receives life imprisonment instead of the death penalty.

http://uk.news.yahoo.com/03052006/32...gets-life.html

As long as he gets life, I feel that this is far more appropriate, and makes a distinction between the West, particularly America and these mindless terrorists,.
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Old 03-05-2006, 10:06 PM   #2 (permalink)
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The whole principle of law rests on the idea that "you cannot do this because we don't", this principle is undermined by the death penalty. Therefore it should never be used.
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Old 03-05-2006, 11:14 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Anybody see Penn and Teller Bull**** its a new series not sure if they are showing it over here yet but that did an Episode on The Death Penalty, and did one of the world trade center just this week.

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Old 03-05-2006, 11:27 PM   #4 (permalink)
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As long as he gets life, I feel that this is far more appropriate, and makes a distinction between the West, particularly America and these mindless terrorists,.
agree, but it was a very close run thing (and The Whitehouse was hoping for the death penalty) and atypical of Bush's America
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Old 04-05-2006, 4:58 AM   #5 (permalink)
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As long as he gets life, I feel that this is far more appropriate, and makes a distinction between the West, particularly America and these mindless terrorists,.
I agree, Games Guru.
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Old 04-05-2006, 7:49 AM   #6 (permalink)
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agree, but it was a very close run thing (and The Whitehouse was hoping for the death penalty) and atypical of Bush's America
Sort of. What interests me is that the penalty was not decided against as such but because there wasn't a consensus of opinion of the big tenet of the prosecution case- which does when viewed unemotively appear a little tenuous.

One thing I am confident of is that Massaoui has come across as a weak willed and not desperately intelligent individual. Denied "martyrdom" (a word I detest) I cannot see him being intellectually up to achieving anything further from a prison cell in Colorado.
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Old 04-05-2006, 7:59 AM   #7 (permalink)
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Massaoui, the only convicted terrorist in conjunction with the 11/9 attacks receives life imprisonment instead of the death penalty.

http://uk.news.yahoo.com/03052006/32...gets-life.html

As long as he gets life, I feel that this is far more appropriate, and makes a distinction between the West, particularly America and these mindless terrorists,.
The Americans would never have allowed the death penalty for this man, because they knew that his death would have made him a martyr, and that was never going to happen.
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Old 04-05-2006, 8:09 AM   #8 (permalink)
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If you believe what the media tells you about 9/11 then this is good news - they have got one of the bad guys - brilliant.

However, there is a disturbingly accurate documentary called 'loose change' which I would recommend watching which might just change your mind.
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You may have to download google video player before you can download the movie but it's only small and the film's worth it.
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Yes, I've seen it, and it is very disturbing. It's one of the top videos on Google video.
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Old 04-05-2006, 8:27 AM   #10 (permalink)
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Indeed - It's also a film which (once watched) makes this arrest seem all the more absurd.

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Well it has been alleged that some of the terrorists named for the 9/11 attacks are still alive, which can mean only one thing - they were never on the planes in the first place.
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Old 04-05-2006, 9:19 AM   #12 (permalink)
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Indeed - It's also a film which (once watched) makes this arrest seem all the more absurd.
I have watched it, and it is hogwash.

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Edit - sorry, I was mistaken. I have just checked this video and I have not seen it. I saw another one called '911 In Plane Site'. And that one is hogwash.

I hope no one is going to tell me that the link above talks about bombs in the WTC, planes being shot down by missiles, planes landing safely when they have been reported to have crashed etc etc

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Old 04-05-2006, 9:26 AM   #13 (permalink)
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Hogwash - such a good word.

Interesting, I was all gung ho about catching bin laden and all the terrorist scum-suckers in the world before watching it and now, having seen the 'loose change' film, I am not so sure - it really affected me to the point of changing my whole outlook on the 9/11 proceedings.

I'm interested to know what makes you say it's 'hogwash'? I thought it raised some incredible viewpoints and conclusions.
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Well, if you see my post above, you will see that I was mistaken about watching it, but I assume it is similar to the one I have seen.


I honestly don't have the time or knowledge to deal with all aspects of 9/11 conspiracy theories.
I just sometimes wish that instead of searching google for, say '9/11 conspiracy', people would maybe look at '9/11 conspiracy debunked' or something.

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Old 04-05-2006, 10:02 AM   #15 (permalink)
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Death penalty is a bad thing for two reasons.

Its decreed by a judicial system setup by human beings and anythign created by human being is nevver 100% infallible.

Killing the perpetrator of a crime destroys any possibility of atonement , reconciliation , realisation , understanding or anything remotely positive being salvaged from an already terrible situation. It achieves nothing , which is the worst possible outcome.
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