http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/4910950.stm

Your thoughts?

[scrapbook]

I would have thought the whole administration are as responsible and Rambo is just being made a scape goat.

The whole thing has been a right mess from just about the moment they entered Baghdad.

There doesn't seem to have been any strategy to rebuild the infrastructure or to keep the peace.

[Nick_UK]

I totally agree. The whole administration is corrupt, and they cover for each other.

[overkill]

Originally Posted by Nick_UK

I totally agree. The whole administration is corrupt, and they cover for each other.

Holy ****! Something Nick and I agree 100% on!

There is a great book out (I will try and rustle up the title) on the current and past (Bush Snr) Bush regimes and their dodgy links with big biz. Which sort of explains a lot re their (lack of) of environment policy, handing out of contracts in Iraq and Afghan and their clinging to blaming the USSR and France for what happened over 'oil for concessions'.

It has a good go at the current, and previous two British govts (Maggie and Major) as well!

[Nick_UK]

Bush's grandpappy was openly trading with Hitler's government whilst we were at war with them. They only stopped when America entered WW2 in 1942. The family was investigated by the "Unamerican Activities Committee", and (as no coincidence) George Bush Sr volunteered for the US Navy, to help quell the accusations. Lots of people assume that the Bush fortunes come from oil - they don't.

P.S. The Bush regime gets even more scary if you believe what's contained in this !

[overkill]

Originally Posted by Nick_UK

Bush's grandpappy was openly trading with Hitler's government whilst we were at war with them. They only stopped when America entered WW2 in 1942. The family was investigated by the "Unamerican Activities Committee", and (as no coincidence) George Bush Sr volunteered for the US Navy, to help quell the accusations. Lots of people assume that the Bush fortunes come from oil - they don't.

P.S. The Bush regime gets even more scary if you believe what's contained in this !

As ever with US webpages I would take it with a liberal 'pinch', however, Karl Rove is one dodgy guy.

It also explains a Matt Groening reference to Arnie in one of his episodes with Krusty the Clown. It may sound an odd example, but the Simpsons is widely disliked by the US right for it's subtle digs at the American way of life - and key figures.

Rumsfeld is a sacrificial lamb being led to the slaughter. I have always believed that Dick Cheney is the real force behind the current regime. Bush and his pals have made incredible amounts of money out of Iraq just look at their stakes in the Haliburton and Carlisle groups.

As for the Bush family's choice of friends, you need look no further than their involvement with the Bin Laden family.

[Nick_UK]

The more you look at it, the less ridiculous some of the conspiracy theories become. When you look at some of the whacky ideas that American politicians have come up with in the past to try to remove some of the leaders that wouldn't toe America's line.

[GBDG1]

Rummie Rummie Rummie a man after midnight,
Won't somebody help me chase those shadows away,
Rummie Rummie Rummie a man after midnight,
Soon to be a scapegoat for the US of A....

[krish]

DRs's no scapegoat nor sacrificial lamb, his hands are as dirty as or dirtier than most of the neocon hawks and Haliburton/Carlyle Group weasels, and have been so ever since he shook hands with Sadaam over chemicals for WMD Iraq had just bought from the US back in '83

[GBDG1]

it rymed :P

If any of you get the chance go and grab a copy of michael Moore 911 and Bowling for Columbine there both on DVD , its pretty scary stuff to see what realy went on behind closed doors.

cheers

Big Ted

[krish]

Originally Posted by BIG TED

If any of you get the chance go and grab a copy of michael Moore 911 and Bowling for Columbine there both on DVD , its pretty scary stuff to see what realy went on behind closed doors....

also worth checking out the documentaries or writings of director/producer Robert Greenwald and Greg Palast...

they tend to uncover things ages before Moore, and hence do a fair amount of the groundwork for him

[Nick_UK]

Originally Posted by BIG TED

If any of you get the chance go and grab a copy of michael Moore 911 and Bowling for Columbine there both on DVD , its pretty scary stuff to see what realy went on behind closed doors.

If you want to see "scary stuff", watch this and this

Makes Michael Moore's movie seem quite tame, especially the first one.

Who's the terrorists now ?

Yerr your right Nick , makes Moore look like Thomas the Tank engine , I will watch the second one in the morning getting going to catch some zzzzzzz`s.


cheers

Big Ted